5th Test Showdown

Dunno why people are blaming the english, if anybody deserves to be slated its the umpries and the aussies for stupidly coming off yesterday.
 
Or when it was 1-1 McGrath says "we'll just have to win it 3-1 now"

those humble, sporting Aussies, selflessly promoting cricket above themselves
 
Wibble said:
England have been the better side so far but I think they risk devaluing their win if they run scared now.

They're not running scared....that's the most bizarre part of your daft view
 
Davo said:
That was just stupid from McGrath, setting himself up for an almighty fall...

Mind you, Hoggard's "old men" comment wasn't the brightest either


Though it's looking far more accurate to be fair.

What with McGrath falling to bits an' all....
 
Davo said:
But you seem to think that taking the light is "unsporting"?

Which is nonsense

No. Not exactly, even against such slow bowling.

That would be Boycott.

I think it is a cop out.
 
Wibble said:
No.

Unlike the English cricket team.

Have the current Aussie team("world champions") proven they are capable of beating the current England team more than vice cersa? Who really has something to prove?
 
Davo said:
In terms of the players, I reckon a lot of the time they're good losers, but terrible winners.

:lol: Close to the truth

Their media are simply bitter spastics mind...

Like all press. But they have been panning the Aussie's performances

Hopefully there'll be no more play today...

You do read The Sun.
 
RedorDead6899 said:
Though it's looking far more accurate to be fair.

What with McGrath falling to bits an' all....

The worry for the Aussies is that their old bowlers are their only class bowlers....

Things are looking ropey for them in the near future...

Which is a shame....;)
 
Wibble said:
No.

Unlike the English cricket team.

What exactly have the England cricket team got to prove.

Beat the West Indies in the West Indies
Beat Pakistan in Pakistan
Beat South Africa in South Africa
Beat Austrialia.

And in 18 months time when we get the chance to beat Austrialia in Austrialia we will.
You can't say they have something to prove just because the fixtures are such that we haven't been to Oz with this current team.
 
crappycraperson said:
As far as walking goes, I dont agree with it at all

Possibly the last bastion of good sportmanship in modern sport IMO

And I would not really try to typecast Aussie as a role modal for sportsmanship.
*cough* Under arm bowling *cough*

I didn't. Simply bemoaning the fact that it doesn't happen much any more. Ponting wouldn't walk in a million years.
 
Wibble said:
I think it is a cop out.

So you think they should go out & bat in poor light?

All out for 102*

* not a bad score when you can't see the fecking ball.

It's the nature of the game Wibs.... just accept it & have a good chortle at the Aussies surrounding you.




The bitter crims ;)
 
Looking Busy said:
What exactly have the England cricket team got to prove.

Beat the West Indies in the West Indies
Beat Pakistan in Pakistan
Beat South Africa in South Africa
Beat Austrialia.

And in 18 months time when we get the chance to beat Austrialia in Austrialia we will.
You can't say they have something to prove just because the fixtures are such that we haven't been to Oz with this current team.

If England did have anything to prove, it's that they transfer their recent form into a series against the Aussies - who have been rightly viewed as the best team in the world for some time.

They have
 
Davo said:
no I don't

Another strange assumption

You've lost your marbles old man...everyone's shaking their head and tutting when reading your "insights"

:lol:

I'm refering to The Sun headline which got national coverage here with the legend "Pray for Rain" or something like that.
 
Wibble said:
I didn't. Simply bemoaning the fact that it doesn't happen much any more. Ponting wouldn't walk in a million years.
I will repeat; to expect Batsman to walk is extremely unfair, IMO atleast.
 
EricTheRed said:
So you think they should go out & bat in poor light?

All out for 102*

* not a bad score when you can't see the fecking ball.

It's the nature of the game Wibs.... just accept it & have a good chortle at the Aussies surrounding you.




The bitter crims ;)

I will do anyway (assuming the game will be a draw) but it would be far more fun if England won this one.
 
Wibble said:
:lol:

I'm refering to The Sun headline which got national coverage here with the legend "Pray for Rain" or something like that.

If you say so...

I'm not "praying for rain", but I'd happily accept it to ensure the Ashes come home - and that the best side of the summer get what they deserve

National coverage over there? Feck me, they're worse that I thought...

Which is really something
 
And I suppose if we did go out and bat in the poor light and got cheaply bowled out and the Aussies got out the back and retained the Ashes with a mighty drawn series (what an achievement) they would be calling us great sports and admitting that the conditions helped them?

Would they feck.
 
I don't see how they can complain, the light reading is the one they came off for so that's the benchmark that's being used.


Did we get offered the chance to bowl two spinners to them?
 
RedorDead6899 said:
And I suppose if we did go out and bat in the poor light and got cheaply bowled out and the Aussies got out the back and retained the Ashes with a mighty drawn series (what an achievement) they would be calling us great sports and admitting that the conditions helped them?

Would they feck.

It would happen too...

No point taking any risks. Make sure we have plenty of decent batting left for tommorow, drag it out as long as possible.
 
I still remember the Aussies bowling underarm to win a match
thats enough for me Rain will do me nicely
 
"Mr Bowden, can you see the ball?"

"No i can't, can you?"

"Nope, it is far too dark to play a good old game of bat and ball"

"Why i wholeheartedly concur squire, shall we step inside for a spot of tea?"

"Yes, Lets"

Ah poor aussies, what a shame. Everybody sing with me, the ashes are coming home!
 
Wibble, England have to prove something to who exactly?

Nothing wrong with taking the light if offered, FFS the South Africans took the light when they were fielding to get away with a draw, the umpires have to offer the light at the same level as they offered the opposing team. If England draw this due to the weather they would have deserved the ashes. Even before this test England deserved the ashes for being the better team in 3 of the last 4 tests.
 
Looking Busy said:
Wibble - What can't you accept, that England are deservedly winning the Ashes or that England have become as professional as Australia

England have been the better side and should have been out of sight by now. If they are to win I would like them to win the last game or even draw it by playing cricket.

The press over here are talking of miracles being needed. I think collective suicide might be closer to the only chance.
 
England have to prove that they are a world class side (whatever that means). They have had an impressive run but this is their only real test so far which they will have won but in a less than convincing manner. They should have won far more easily but have let Australia off the hook a few times and nearly threw one of their victories away before stumbling home by 3 runs.

At the moment this can be dismissed as England winning a series where they performed right at the top of their game against an Australian side who woefully underperformed (Warne excepted) and it will if they get thumped when down under in 18 months time. Not saying they will since McGrath and Warne may well have retired by then but it is a risk.

Put Australia to the sword and this win will be of far greater value.
 
Davo said:
National coverage over there? Feck me, they're worse that I thought...

Our TV channels now reach the whole country so when such a silly headline is reported as a "laugh at the poms" item on breakfast telly it gets national coverage.

Are you really saying that Austrlia's press is worse than that in the UK? Nowhere here plumbs the depths of The Sun, The Mirror or The Star (does itr still exist?). Our worst is about the standard of The Express and The Daily Mail - which is pretty shit mind.
 
Wibble said:
England have to prove that they are a world class side (whatever that means). They have had an impressive run but this is their only real test so far which they will have won but in a less than convincing manner. They should have won far more easily but have let Australia off the hook a few times and nearly threw one of their victories away before stumbling home by 3 runs.

At the moment this can be dismissed as England winning a series where they performed right at the top of their game against an Australian side who woefully underperformed (Warne excepted) and it will if they get thumped when down under in 18 months time. Not saying they will since McGrath and Warne may well have retired by then but it is a risk.

Put Australia to the sword and this win will be of far greater value.
Your teams coach i think also said that to be the best in the world they would have to do two more things after winning this ashes - beating India in India and beating the aussies in their own backyard. After all, its a test series between two teams thats held regularly, you would expect England to win sooner or later.
 
sidsutton said:
Have the current Aussie team("world champions") proven they are capable of beating the current England team more than vice cersa? Who really has something to prove?
Dont talk rubbish. This is one of the best teams of all time, they have nothing to prove at all. They are on the slump and couldnt have been expected to win forever, what with all their players well into the 30s now. Useless mocking their tag of world champions, as much as theyv pissed me of in the last few years, few teams in sport history have dominated the way they have.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
Your teams coach i think also said that to be the best in the world they would have to do two more things after winning this ashes - beating India in India and beating the aussies in their own backyard. After all, its a test series between two teams thats held regularly, you would expect England to win sooner or later.

Agreed. Lose to India and thye Aussies away and this will be seen as a one off exception to the rule.
 
Right then here we are folks.

After a summer of brilliant cricket it comes down to one day. The conditions look good for bowling at the moment. It's a bit overcase, but on the good side for England it isn't as warm as it was so the ball shouldn't swing as much early on.
 
The draw's odds-on with the bookies. But we could still have any of three possible results here.

The Aussies will be looking for early wickets, and hoping to keep target down as small as possible. If England can bat two sessions and give the Aussies target of say, 220 in 25 overs, they might fancy their chances, 'cos the Aussies will have to go for it. Could still be very exciting...
 
52-1 England, a good enough start.

Where is everyone? Bunked off to watch it on the telly or something?
 
Im nervous as feck, so I don't want to hear anything until we win so I can watch the highlights and go "aaah, for the first time in my lifetime, the Ashes are coming home" :D
 
TheRedFlag said:
Im nervous as feck, so I don't want to hear anything until we win so I can watch the highlights and go "aaah, for the first time in my lifetime, the Ashes are coming home" :D

I know what you mean. But if I was at home, I'd definitely be watching live.