2024 U.S. Elections | Trump wins


Im sorry but some of this identity politics stuff is blown out of proportion much more by the right than the left. I hardly hear any talk about it this election on the left vs the right and we re again talking about a tiny percentage (less than one) of the population. If even a Dem falls for that trap we re much further gone than I had thought.
 
Trump spent more time talking about Harris’ race than she did herself, yet it’s the Democrats that are always accused of playing identity politics.
 
The Harris team debated internally how to respond. Ads the Harris team produced with a direct response to the “they/them” ads wound up faring poorly in internal tests. The ads never ran.
 
Im sorry but some of this identity politics stuff is blown out of proportion much more by the right than the left. I hardly hear any talk about it this election on the left vs the right and we re again talking about a tiny percentage (less than one) of the population. If even a Dem falls for that trap we re much further gone than I had thought.
It's not necessarily about what Harris said in this election. Her comments from the past were used against her.
About a week after the September debate, Mr. Trump started spending heavily on a television ad that hammered Ms. Harris for her position on a seemingly obscure topic: the use of taxpayer funds to fund surgeries for transgender inmates. “Every transgender inmate in the prison system would have access,” Ms. Harris said in a 2019 clip used in the ad.
 
Biden had a bigger margin with women though. I know, you can't separate all the various reasons, but that's a fact. I think there is still a lot of "Well, a woman can't possibly negotiate with Putin and Xi Jinping" mentality out there, as sad as that is.

Who knows how things go from here. It would be typical if the economy does well under Trump. Inflation has already been brought down, so people may not feel prices increase further, and there are good programs introduced under Biden already. And then he's probably going to drill, baby, drill, which may be good for gas prices.

Wow, I didn't know that. According to exit polls, Biden got 61% of women age 18-44, while Harris only got 55%.
https://apnews.com/article/election...black-voters-0f3fbda3362f3dcfe41aa6b858f22d12

I'm not sure what that means in terms of raw vote number, but this may have been the difference, right there.

I guess people just assume the economic message impacts working men. It's often women that are seeing the impacts of inflation when shopping.

And the abortion issue, although huge, has already been decided on in many states. Or if it is on the ballot, women (or men) can still vote Trump and no to restrictive abortion regulations. I had read in the run up that Trump didn't say the words "pro life" once in his campaign - quite smart from him.
 
Trump spent more time talking about Harris’ race than she did herself, yet it’s the Democrats that are always accused of playing identity politics.

Ain't nobody to blame but the American people. "It's not my fault I'm so stupid, its the dems!" What a copout, get fecked.
 
No convincing needed when it’s clear as daylight. The Democratic Party may be called “the left”, but all they represent is racism, censorship and corruption. No one cares about races and genders, people care about grocery prices and interest rates. They are so out of touch with Americans and it is reflected by them royally losing the presidency, the senate and hopefully the house too. As long as they’re controlled by the Obama mafia they will remain the memes/vibes good for nothing party.


What has the republican party done for unions again?

Btw, it was "Dear Leader" that simply couldn't stop talking about race all the time, identity politics is a really big thing on the right.
 
And the abortion issue, although huge, has already been decided on in many states. Or if it is on the ballot, women (or men) can still vote Trump and no to restrictive abortion regulations. I had read in the run up that Trump didn't say the words "pro life" once in his campaign - quite smart from him.
Just look at Missouri. They voted to enshrine reproductive freedom in their state constitution, and yet Trump carried the state easily by 18 points. Abortion has seemingly lost power as an issue, when it comes to nationwide elections.
 
Just look at Missouri. They voted to enshrine reproductive freedom in their state constitution, and yet Trump carried the state easily by 18 points. Abortion has seemingly lost power as an issue, when it comes to nationwide elections.

Yup. Or, it is at least inflation over abortion for many.

2020 it was COVID and racial justice. Every election has it's own issues.
 
Not heard Latin X for a long time, certainly not from Harris.

Bit of a strange take when the other side are talking like this (video on 5th post) ...


"Ladies, we need to bite back."

Why did they vote for him? Someone posted a stat a few pages that 46-48% of women voted for him.

A guy who sexually assaults/rapes, who talks about grabbing their pussies, who treats women like shit. In theory, you couldn't find a more repugnant candidate for a woman yet almost half of them were like; "He's my guy."
 
Turning "the left" into some sort of global boogyman of the working claas is one of the modern world's biggest ironies.

How the feck have rightwing lunatics like Donald fecking Trump convinced so many people they're the working man's friend.

Just. How.

It's more the far left has made everyone their enemy even Trump is seen as preferable

I have a gut feeling that the far left didnt even vote since nobody is good enough for their views.
 
Just look at Missouri. They voted to enshrine reproductive freedom in their state constitution, and yet Trump carried the state easily by 18 points. Abortion has seemingly lost power as an issue, when it comes to nationwide elections.
I’ve never thought about it this way but it’s not surprising when you think of the number of people it directly impacts.

You can probably cut the population in half about 4 or 5 times in terms of gender, religion, age, sexually active, opinions etc

People are self-centred
 
Just look at Missouri. They voted to enshrine reproductive freedom in their state constitution, and yet Trump carried the state easily by 18 points. Abortion has seemingly lost power as an issue, when it comes to nationwide elections.
They also voted for Josh Hawley who wasn't in favour of the amendment