Have you thought about graduating high school and maybe attending community college, at least?
2024 U.S. Elections | Trump wins
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Yes the legions of americans with liberal arts degrees and PhDs in lesbian poetry are all being wasted in Starbucks.Those are the only degrees offered in the United States !
Tried to stay away from posting here cause the thread is genuinely hilarious, emotions are high, but this post made me laugh a lot.
If GOP weren’t so evil, it would be even more funny to see Dems completely lacking self-awareness and completely missing where did it go wrong.
Half a serious prediction: Dems finally manage to recruit Michelle Obama, call everyone who disagrees with them bigots and racists, and for the first time in a while, New York and California are in play.
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The Democratic Party, and certainly no one in The View, is "the left."
What?
Specific education, in a specific field, does not make someone broadly smart. What do you even class as intelligence anyway? Quantitative intelligence? Memory ability/capacity? Qualitative intelligence? Emotional intelligence?
Heck, I know PHDs Aerospace Engineers who are geniuses in their field but couldn't have the basic "intelligence" to know when to interrupt, how to communicate people without pissing off their stakeholders or even basic things like being able to not alienate everyone around them.
Maybe not but I was initially referring exclusively to the Democrats but they don't really describe anyone outside the US so went with the blanket term "yeh left"
It was a rejoinder to an asinine comment.
By definition, receiving more education makes one more educated, which is the point being denied by the other user.
I'm not familiar with the poster so perhaps they are playing up to the part?
The Biden aides have no room for criticism. They let him stumble around the Oval Office when he should have allowed another candidate to run in 2024. They should zip it.
Not quite. I pointed out that in this case, more educated was being used to suggest more intelligent which is not the case.
Class warfare is the defining left wing principle, no?
I mean more in general, the conclusion seems to be that America is too bigoted/racist to elect a black woman.
I do not think that really is in the top 5 reasons why Dems had such a shocking defeat.
Nothing against the guy, but his view on economics really belong with the republicans, not with democrats, i guess outside tariffs.
It's ok. I'm just being a big 'ole asshole.
Issue is Dems are shifting. They have a larger share of these college-educated, wealthier voters. These voters are not left-leaning (in the traditional sense). It's not even just a perception issue it's an actual shift, and not a very good one. It stinks!
It genuinely wouldn't surprise me if the Republicans were the first to elect either a woman or a woman or colour.
Candace Owens 2028.
Education has little to do with it. College-educated voters used to be firmly Republican and the Republican Party sucked shit back then too.
It doesn't get talked about enough how much Biden screwed the Democrats this election. His decision to not allow for a primary process is at the very core of this result. If Biden announces sometime after the mid-terms that he has succeeded in what he wanted in righting the ship after Trump and then steps down, the Dems might get a Newsom/Whitmer ticket or something. That makes it competitive at least.
Yep, I agree.
I haven’t been liking Dems for a while, but at this stage I think they are beyond salvation. It sucks that the US’ both main parties are rotten to the core.
Would be nice for Dems to have a Trump moment. Which they would have had if they didn’t rob Bernie of nomination not once, but twice. While I disagree lots with his policies, he was the only Democrat in a while who was not fake and not completely out of touch with reality.
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Most recent US presidents and all but one of those were absolute box office while there opponents were dull as dishwater. Unless they had someone box office, they were always going to struggle imo.
So somehow either Biden or Bush were absolute box office
But you are right, any ticket would struggle with the economic reality. I'm just saying that running a ticket that was separate from the administration and that had the chance to run a full campaign would have given them a chance. Harris was hampered by both her connection to Biden, and campaigning for about 100 days against a guy that's basically been campaigning for 10 years.
There's losing vote share and then there's getting trounced by a felon who lies with every breath and who attempted a coup after mismanaging the country while thousands of people died.
Agreed. It cost them the election. We can sit here and pick flaws with the Harris campaign but look at what they were dealt with. Dems internal polling was showing that they were potentially in trouble in states like Minnesota, Virginia and New Mexico before Biden dropped out never mind being nowhere near Trump in the swing states. They had a huge hole to dig out of.
Biden was delusional to think he could beat Trump for a second time. He wasn't up to it.
The neo-liberals will never ever learn. They basically just want to be pro-choice Republicans at this point.
So somehow either Biden or Bush were absolute box office
But you are right, any ticket would struggle with the economic reality. I'm just saying that running a ticket that was separate from the administration and that had the chance to run a full campaign would have given them a chance. Harris was hampered by both her connection to Biden, and campaigning for about 100 days against a guy that's basically been campaigning for 10 years.
Bush was box office in his own way yes. Biden was the exception in the list.
So somehow either Biden or Bush were absolute box office
But you are right, any ticket would struggle with the economic reality. I'm just saying that running a ticket that was separate from the administration and that had the chance to run a full campaign would have given them a chance. Harris was hampered by both her connection to Biden, and campaigning for about 100 days against a guy that's basically been campaigning for 10 years.
Yeah I'm not sure if you remember but Bush had some pretty hilarious box office moments:
Getting a shoe lobbed at him, "NOW WATCH THIS DRIVE", "Fool me once, shame on you, Fool me twice..shame on....errr....can't fool me again."
Comedically being unable to open a door, Smashing his head trying to enter a helicopter, "If it feels good do it, If it goes wrong...blame somebody else."
The guy was funny and definitely more charismatic than a lot on that list.
Thing is - they re not wrong if the only interest is to win elections imho. If anything this last election only emphasized to me that a party full of AOC like people will never win a general. BUT - I am not someone who thinks she has no value. In fact, I do respect her for her resolve and some of her standpoints. But someone like her then should have another platform. It's the same old same old problem the Dems have. Too conservative for the very left, too progressive for the centrists and right. Add to that they can't even retain center right people and you have a constant tug of war with no winner.
I guess I didn't equate being a bumbling idiot to being box office.
Roginsky is a Democratic strategist.
The idea that giving AOC time to speak at the convention contributed to the loss is insanity. They refuse to recognize that they lost, because of the selfishness of their hero Joe Biden.
I want to highlight this as the bold is a great point. When people just say "the rich", that's very subjective and sloppy. A lot of people think that means taxing doctors or even successful plumbers and high school principals when really, what people want is exactly what you're saying here. Tax the finbros and mortgage lenders that crashed the economy in the mid-2000s while walking away with multi-millions apiece. Tax the billionaires that don't pay as much in taxes as a % of income as hard working professionals. That's really the framing the Democrats should be using but the whole "Eat the rich" style talking points just lose many "non-rich" individuals that think that means they are coming after their doctor, plumber and high school principal.
With the people voting Dem regardless? You are right I don't think it hurt them at all. With everybody else? It could. I have yet to hear someone who is not consistently dem voting say much positive about her. The right (and yes some Dems as well) have successfully poisoned that chalice and painted her as an extremist. And in an election like this one where the undecideds and centre held enormous sway it definitely doesn't help.
But I agree with you that in no way can she be held responsible for this loss. If they wanted to become the Dems of the 90s and be center right with a very faint touch of progressive they should have told her to take a hike all together. This way however they are automatically disenfranchising an important contingent of the current Democratic party. They need to decide whether it's worth giving that up in order to gain more traction on the right side of the field.