Yet the pass rate is less than 100 %. We can add "barrier to entry" to the growing mountain of things you don't know what means, it seems
If someone insults you, or if you (hypothetically!) spend days just calling everyone kids as a defense mechanism, then that's just namecalling. No latin magic spells coming to your rescue.
As for my friend NotThatSoph, you have made terrible comments in your previous post. I would say talk about it in detail over wasting time on meaningless things.
I'm quite sure there will be unprecedented resistance from all over the world over implementing it for 18-25 year olds as well, since it's a very clear infringement on voting rights, but with his rationale (wanting to make sure only informed people vote) a much better case could be made for people from states with poor educational records.
And even then, politics and (inter)national policy making is very complicated. This civics test that any high school kid can clear doesnt even begin to scratch the surface of measuring someone's understanding of politics.
Encouraging young people to take an interest in politics is great, but putting obstacles in front of people before they can vote is a ridiculous notion, especially in light of the spirit of the US' founding fathers. That's what makes it so ridiculous, Vivek is talking about heritage and people needing to understand the principles on which the country was build, but this idea is the exact opposite of that.
And once again, one of the principles of the colonists; no tax without representation. Are people who fail the test no longer obliged to pay taxes? Because a government levying taxes from people who aren't allowed a say in politics is as unamerican as French fries with mayonaise.
Of course it doesnt matter, because even if he is elected (he has no chance), there is no way he will ever (ever ever ever) get this through. Of course he knows this, as all populists do.
Valid points, I had a similar discussion with Raol. This age group shows literally the least interest in voting and Vivek's surmise is that, they have taken the voting rights for granted and hardly have any interest in it. If this test is mandated he surmises that people who make it through the test will show greater interest in valuing their votes and thus show greater interest in participating in it. Now either thing can happen, voters feel tests are hard and disillusioned not do it or voters start valuing hard-earned stuff and jump in the fray. So at the very least I wouldn't say its total nonsense.
Also bro, your point about government levying taxes without say in politics is unamerican is not correct. Ask any of your Indian/Chinese immigrant friends in US (if you have any), they will explain it in detail. I will give the shorter answer, Any immigrant living in US and using US resources for over 5 years will be asked to pay taxes as a resident and it has nothing to do with voting rights. So taxes don't guarantee voting rights in US (as unamerican as it may sound), so your point will not be valid.
As for Biden's failed promise, I will state the most terrible ones
1. Trump inditements - using prosecution against political opponents, whether he deserved it or not the mere fact that he is the main opposition nomination demands that his charges are held till election (we are going to see many of this going forward, banana republic stuff)
2. Delay in removing Trump's Title 42 (only after the uproar from within his base was this inhuman practice stopped)
3. Failure to reform Supreme Court (No balls) - Roe v Wade happened and did nothing
4. Ukraine war - no end in sight.
5. Southern Border Crisis
6. Failure to Unite the nation (The division has only become more prominent)
7. Weak Foreign Policy (current mishandling of China), de dollarization discussed, Saudi Iran settlement without US, etc.
8. Vote Bank politics (saying populist things like giving citizenship to all illegal immigrants, Giving GC to all legal immigrants etc without any plans for doing them)
9. Housing crisis, inflation and debt
10. Afghan pull out fiasco.
11. America Last policy
12. it goes on and on...
Beyond anything else Biden is a calculated anti-trump pick and he fulfilled his only policy on the day of election - defeat Trump. You could see how poor his policies are with the current state of our country. It was a tough call between him and GW Bush and may be recency bias made me pick him. The guy in the forum saying he didn't understand the bit about how Kamala Harris became VP, must be disingenuous or dumb.
As for Trump, he did well when it came to policies and that's just my opinion. But for the pandemic, we were seeing generational economic progress under him and the way he handled China and Europe was strong. He recognized the border issue (despite dealing with in inhumanly). But he is the worst president as a person (not policy). Feeding racism, disregard for life, COVID denial, lying 24X7, normalizing misinformation and corruption, he is the biggest threat to the union since the civil war and slavery. I want his policies without his baggage.
As for Vivek's civic test Idea, It's good that most of us have now moved on from denying the merits of the civic test with outlandish claims to discussing its infeasibility in Senate. I will take it as progress in this forum. If every idea coming out from the president has to be considered as ones that makes the senate, or its sound bite, then there will be no real ideas. Take abortion for example, Any anti-abortion law or abortion freedom law will never make the senate majority, does it mean talking about it is useless. The best thing to do when such ideas come from presidential candidates is to chew on it for its merit and have an open debate about it to expand your ideas/concerns until we reach general consensus.
