Potentially. But again, like i said before, are they swinging someone from voting for Harris to Trump?
Find me a the voter that would vote for Harris if she was to impose blanket import tariffs?
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Potentially. But again, like i said before, are they swinging someone from voting for Harris to Trump?
Find me a the voter that would vote for Harris if she was to impose blanket import tariffs?
americans will earn the title as the dumbest people on the planet when they re-elect this bufoon.
Well, if the scientists say it.
Well, if the scientists say it.
How many who have I met? Trump supporters?
Dade, a former Dem stronghold, appears to have more R registrations now.
Why has Florida become a deep red state, just the Trump effect or some other reason?
Also the numbers in Nevada aren't good for the dems, I think it's going red.
Also the numbers in Nevada aren't good for the dems, I think it's going red.
Unfortunately whereas most play to the cameras, he very much believes these kinda things..
FL was already somewhat conservative based on big military population, retirees, and generally being a Deep South state everywhere north of Ocala, and was turned into a swing state because of a very high Dem population in Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach counties.
During the Trump years, the rest of the state has gotten more red because of MAGA, which seems to have now spread into Dade, where there was already an existing Cuban population that historically leaned right (because of staunch anti-Castro communism), so that’s probably where Trump is getting most of his support in Dade.
Isn't it a bit of an exaggeration to call it "deep red"? Biden got 47.86% there in 2020.
Things have changed since 2020.
It's seemingly a radical concept to some on here but voters are within their rights to have expectations or standards of their representatives that are more than "Is not the other guy"
There is always something soul crushing about Florida. It always feels like conquering the universe when you win it as a Democrat.
The numbers of early voting are just remarkably obvious. Harris would need enough crossover or the independents to break her way to stand a chance there.
Man, I really don’t like this state.
Who does?
I mean… I’m surrounded by them & they’re very true believers
Michigan: in the early voting, women are +13 so far, more than any other swing state that reports voting by gender.
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So i'm assuming by you posting clips of Trump supporters from a comedy show, your answer is....
I'm not American. Don't live in America and have never spoken to a Trump supporter.
Yet your comfortable in making a sweeping generalisation about 70+ million people.
The question wasn't for you. We both live in America and im sure know many. I know many in North Carolina that are very engaged right now.
There are Trump supporters of every kind. Not all red hat wearing conspiracy theorists.
A very good Michigan poll for Harris.
https://ippsr.msu.edu/sites/default/files/soss/soss_election_mini_report.pdf
https://ippsr.msu.edu/sites/default/files/soss/soss_election_mini_report.pdf
Firstly you’re telling me not to assume things yet you go and do the same thing by saying I ain’t American, I don’t live here nor have I ever spoken to a Trump supporter. Wrong on all three counts! What kind of horseshit is that?
Secondly did I say every single Trump supporter? You might need to get your eyes checked if so and go back and read what I wrote. I said “SOME of the Trump supporters…”.
Thirdly I live in Mass. Although quite frankly it doesn’t matter even if I live in Wyoming or Arkansas. What am I supposed to do? Go and ask every Trump supporter if they are voting for him cause of tariffs?
There's going to be a fair few 'shy' women blue voters right? I.e. Not a chance in hell they are voting red after the abortion stuff, but may not want to tell their fella's/families.
Probably wrote this before, but, living in a deep blue university in a deep blue city in a light red state, I spoke to only three trump supporters. All were middle-aged white men who drove the university's vans.
Two of them had the incomprehensible logic, basically a negative stereotype. One of them said "we can't have free college, that's impossible, then we could get free school too." Another said "I'm a centrist, but the Democrats are too far left; looks like the lefties Bernie and Biden are getting the nomination. If one of the others (at that stage, it was Pete and Warren) get it, I might vote for them." I can promise you that, like with the Democrats in this thread, there is not a single thing you could have told them that would ever change their vote.
The other was maybe the most knowledgeable person about Indian politics i had ever met outside India, who would ask me questions about Modi, Naxalism, Sikhism, acid attacks, Pakistani support for the Afghan Taliban, and other such stuff at 3am. But he was absolutely a Trump supporter. For example, his takeaway from acid attacks on women was that they would be protected if India had a second amendment. And his takeaway from Pakistan was that "we shouldn't spend our money there" and praised Trump for saying the same thing, in contrast with Hillary and Bush. I once asked him about M4A and he said he's scared of NHS-style waiting times. His overall take on politics was "all frauds, this one's open about it, so I'll vote for him". Of the three, he definitely had thought through his politics, there was internal consistency and quite a lot of external knowledge, and, IMO, a good chance he wouldn't vote for Ted Cruz or Ron DeSantis.
e - someone in my phd program was a jordan peterson guy, i didnt really know him but i guess he was another trump supporter there.
e again - vans stopped after covid, no idea what their takes were on the vaccine or jan 6 or whatever.
Two of them had the incomprehensible logic, basically a negative stereotype. One of them said "we can't have free college, that's impossible, then we could get free school too." Another said "I'm a centrist, but the Democrats are too far left; looks like the lefties Bernie and Biden are getting the nomination. If one of the others (at that stage, it was Pete and Warren) get it, I might vote for them." I can promise you that, like with the Democrats in this thread, there is not a single thing you could have told them that would ever change their vote.
The other was maybe the most knowledgeable person about Indian politics i had ever met outside India, who would ask me questions about Modi, Naxalism, Sikhism, acid attacks, Pakistani support for the Afghan Taliban, and other such stuff at 3am. But he was absolutely a Trump supporter. For example, his takeaway from acid attacks on women was that they would be protected if India had a second amendment. And his takeaway from Pakistan was that "we shouldn't spend our money there" and praised Trump for saying the same thing, in contrast with Hillary and Bush. I once asked him about M4A and he said he's scared of NHS-style waiting times. His overall take on politics was "all frauds, this one's open about it, so I'll vote for him". Of the three, he definitely had thought through his politics, there was internal consistency and quite a lot of external knowledge, and, IMO, a good chance he wouldn't vote for Ted Cruz or Ron DeSantis.
e - someone in my phd program was a jordan peterson guy, i didnt really know him but i guess he was another trump supporter there.
e again - vans stopped after covid, no idea what their takes were on the vaccine or jan 6 or whatever.
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Voted today, early voting. Desantis meddling in the wording is ridiculous. Need to read the amendments carefully to make sure voting in the right way and even then the scare tactics to sway someone who hasn’t read up on them are some crazy propaganda.
The 2nd amendment is so silly because in the entirely fictitious scenario that the government decides to cause "tyranny" on the peoples, your shitty AR-15's are not going to do the sum of jack shit when the 1st Infantry Division rocks up to your town.
My favourite insane take on the 2nd amendment is, "If there was something equivalent in Nazi Germany, they wouldn't have rounded up the jews because the cost of doing so would have been so high"
My favourite insane take on the 2nd amendment is, "If there was something equivalent in Nazi Germany, they wouldn't have rounded up the jews because the cost of doing so would have been so high"
What a line up in Georgia
Is this shareable? It sounds WILD. How is it not just a cross in a box?
Sample paper from Kentucky.
Also: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/nov/19/bad-ballot-design-2020-democracy-america
Honestly why is there like 20 min between speakers at these things. If you can’t organize the speakers lineup at a rally how you going to run a country.
I agree. Vote for Trump. Fascists always make things run on time.
So why not say you live in Mass? I asked you multiple times? Why post a couple of clips from a comedy show, which clearly has been created for laughs? Is that really a fair representation of 70+ million people?
It is the sweeping generalisation of people in this country that has created the divides we see today and has allowed people like Trump to prosper.
Again, a sweeping generalization. And othering people by repeatedly saying they".
Yes, we know about the bibles. We know about the wall. You are not making some kind of nuanced argument here that hasn't been heard before.
And this is why i ask how many Trump supporters did you know? Believe it or not, there are very sophisticated people that support him. You may not have met any in Mass?
Your post here has exactly the same tone as Trump's speeches. You're referring to the majority of Trump supporters being thick, while he says the left are all radical Hamas supporting enemies of the state. Again, sweeping lazy generalisations.
Wow. The economics? Quite the way to construct a sentence to show that you're more knowledgeable on the topic than the "stupid" people you are referencing.
Tyler Perry is a damn good public speaker.
Netanyahu and Putin would probably love both of em. Especially Cotton or Pompeo.
The GOP are +300k in Florida.
Wisconsin: half of the mail ballots in Dane County and Milwaukee County have not been returned yet. What they’re waiting for? And I know that there is still time.
Wisconsin: half of the mail ballots in Dane County and Milwaukee County have not been returned yet. What they’re waiting for? And I know that there is still time.
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Beyonce's freedom is such a brilliant, inspiring selection for Harris's theme song. They need to blast it across channel to inspire turnout.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think the corpoate tax rates expire, the tax cuts that retire in 2025 are the peronal ones, ie: what most of us pay
Tariffs are a voter winner for the idiots persuaded that China pays them, problem is there are a lot of eejits out there
Bibi yes. Putin wouldn't want anything to do with Cotton or Pompeo. Waltz is somewhere in the middle and tends to speak Trump's language of "The Europeans should be doing more".