It is indeed something to celebrate a party so in tune with the masses!
2024 U.S. Elections | Trump wins
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It is indeed something to celebrate a party so in tune with the masses!
I would agree with that. I think Harris can win, but continue to be concerned that the euphoria of the past few weeks is leading some Dems into a false sense of security that victory is highly likely, when in fact its pretty much still a 50/50 game. Harris can change that if she raises her game by having a good speech and then hitting the trail to double down on policy, give interviews, and have a solid debate against Trump. If she does that, I think she will have a much better chance since Trump probably won't be able to match her turnout.
yeah let's move this to that thread.
I just find it not believable that Obama greenlit soliciting South Korean government investors into the Bill Clinton led Haiti project amongst other things.
Being not so much into US politics I'm wondering why the Clinton's have such a bad reputation.
In Germany Clinton is very highly regarded. He was good for economy and is the last president who actually had balanced budget.
There was the scandal with Lewinsky but in Europe people actually were wondering why it's such big deal. Similar to the outcry about the head of the IMF Straus-Kahn. Americans are in these things way to conservative to my liking. If they do a good job I don't give a shit about their sexual exploits as long as they happened in both consent. Especially with Trump being no a bit better but rather even worse.
Or are there other reasons the Clinton's are disliked?
The problem wasn't that he did it, the problem was that he lied about it.
Absolutely nothing to do with that at all. Yes, there are other huge reasons:
1. Very pro War on Drugs
2. Huge supporters of the prison-industrial complex
3. Neoliberal economic policies spurred rising wealth and income inequality
4. Biggest Democrat supports of the Iraq War
All of these things look worse with age and put them on the wrong side of history and there are a lot of other more specific issues that could be criticized as well.
Hopefully this ends up putting FL in play.
Absolutely nothing to do with that at all. Yes, there are other huge reasons:
1. Very pro War on Drugs
2. Huge supporters of the prison-industrial complex
3. Neoliberal economic policies spurred rising wealth and income inequality
4. Biggest Democrat supports of the Iraq War
All of these things look worse with age and put them on the wrong side of history and there are a lot of other more specific issues that could be criticized as well.
on a personal scandal level, and this probably doesn't factor into the hate, but does make him a slight liability:
the credible allegations from juannita broaddrick, and his very close ties to epstein, which mean the dems can't go after trump for similar.
Really not sure why Donald Trump is interviewing someone about their addiction history but it's a very interesting new side to him.
Is it a new side though? He talked about his brother's alcohol addiction in the past.
It's not that he's talking here I find novel, it is that he's listening.
That's awesome. Already seen her twice on her current tour with tickets to see her again in October. Fantastic performer and an amazing voice.
RFK jr. dropping out and endorsing Trump really could decide this election, couldn’t it?
Addition: ABC now saying he plans to drop out this week and probably endorse Trump.
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I wonder if hitting the podcast circuit would pay any dividends.
Theo Von viewers are probably already voting Trump.
5m views in less than a day is decent numbers though
Theo Von viewers are probably already voting Trump.
5m views in less than a day is decent numbers though
I think for the most part his supporters will probably just be non voters won't they?
DNC gave a bunch of influencers access and credentials to DNC to create their content and interview. Leaning into digital platforms and social media heavily. Reaching people where the consume media/news cant hurt.
The whole "this is a coronation not a democracy" attack on Kamala by RFK is just stupid. If you cared about Democracy, you certainly could not back the guy who tried to have millions of votes tossed out because they werent for him. And you certainly wouldn't support the man behind fake electors trying to undermine democracy. A felon and fraud who preys on society for his own gain.
Some of them will for sure. Part of the RFK Jr. appeal came from him being 3rd party, when the two candidates were historically unpopular. He will just look silly endorsing the candidate of one of the establishment parties.
Many will probably. And it’s not like Trump will get 90 or 80 percent of the actual voters but everything counts in such a tight race, and with a clear endorsement I definitely think Trump will get more votes out of this than Harris. Then again, RFK gets a lot of his hypothetical votes in Texas and other states that won’t swing anyway, so my post was probably a bit dramatic.
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https://blueprint2024.com/polling/walz-poll-8-21/
looks like focus group results
https://blueprint2024.com/polling/walz-poll-8-21/
looks like focus group results
Harris numbers are good compared to Biden's, not against Trump. Trump twice beat his poll numbers, so you need a comfortable gap in numbers when running against him.
If he gets a small chunk of RFK voters more than Harris, that would complicate it for the Dems. more
I'm not optimistic, as I have been throughout this thread. The Dems. seem to be making one mistake after the other; from Biden decision to run again last year, to no open convention and just going with the simplest route with Harris, to antagonizing RFK...etc..
If he gets a small chunk of RFK voters more than Harris, that would complicate it for the Dems. more
I'm not optimistic, as I have been throughout this thread. The Dems. seem to be making one mistake after the other; from Biden decision to run again last year, to no open convention and just going with the simplest route with Harris, to antagonizing RFK...etc..
I agree with Larry here I don't think it will have that much impact.
Signs of worry in the trump camp that this is happening now. the Dems Kamala bounce has them scrambling a bit.
It would have been absolute chaos if there was an open convention. feck RFK, his impact will be minimal oif at all.
How exactly have they antagonized RFK Jr.? The guy doesn't deserve the time of day.
They sued him in multiple states https://www.cbsnews.com/news/democrats-allies-sue-to-keep-rfk-jr-off-ballot/
So true. There's also no way Trump didn't try cocaine living in NY during the 80s
It will be driving more people to the polls, for sure. At lof of the viewers wont have voted before.
He can reach far more people via a podcast or youtube than he can via a rally.
I think it is a smart strategy.
Kamala needs to replicate this. Hearing a "sane" voice on platforms where they are not usually heard can change a lot of minds.
She should go on Joe Rogan, set straight some of the BS.
Didn't RFKs running mate, Nicole Shanahan, put tens of millions into the campaign?
I bet she is driving this as she sees the RFK campaign is going nowhere and she doesn't want to waste any more money.
She will want a cabinet position for her return on investment.
Two things can be simultaneously true. Harris did not receive a single vote for President from a voter (being the VP on a ticket where people voted for Biden for president doesn't count), and did not have to face any competition by way of a primary process, or even a condescend mini primary at the convention. She was simply fast tracked through by the DNC following Biden's endorsement. Therefore it is closer to a behind the scenes coronation than anything resembling a democratically earned nomination. Trump being a complete undemocratic tool doesn't mean the Dems are above criticism on this specific issue.
Alex Jones crowd as well... or are those the anti-voting types?