2024 U.S. Elections | Trump wins

Shapiro is taking it well, at least.

Take a shot everytime he says ‘freedom’ :lol:

He is alright on the mic; kind of an Obama-lite. Not as naturally gifted, hams it up a bit but guess that works for American audiences.
 
Take a shot everytime he says ‘freedom’ :lol:

He is alright on the mic; kind of an Obama-lite. Not as naturally gifted, hams it up a bit but guess that works for American audiences.
Done. Let me go grab the bottle. It's my b-day tomorrow and this fecking hurricane has canceled my traditional golf round with my dad. Bottoms up!
 
Take a shot everytime he says ‘freedom’ :lol:

He is alright on the mic; kind of an Obama-lite. Not as naturally gifted, hams it up a bit but guess that works for American audiences.

Meh, at least it wasn't "now let me be clear".
 
Done. Let me go grab the bottle. It's my b-day tomorrow and this fecking hurricane has canceled my traditional golf round with my dad. Bottoms up!
Happy birthday tomorrow!

You should treat yourself & your better half to a dinner at the Fearrington House as a celebration. Once I get settled at my new place, eating there is on my list of things to do.
 
Happy birthday tomorrow!

You should treat yourself & your better half to a dinner at the Fearrington House as a celebration. Once I get settled at my new place, eating there is on my list of things to do.
She's in France :lol:

We've looked at the menu, but the prices..... woof.
 
Trump having essentially swallowed the republican party, there is little room for others, their bench looks weak for the future, who will they look to, when he is gone?

Dems have a stronger bench, by far, at the moment.
 
I just looked - you could eat out at your favorite regular restaurant for a week with those prices!
True.... but cal knows good food so I trust him. He's the only person in this place, and probably in NC/GA who knows who Stitt and Hastings are.
 
Trump having essentially swallowed the republican party, there is little room for others, their bench looks weak for the future, who will they look to, when he is gone?

Dems have a stronger bench, by far, at the moment.
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I think the chances are Zero.

What a weird thing to say!!!

And putting HUSSAIN in caps. The guy is an utter racist.
Would be a shame if him getting increasingly worked up would have an adverse effect on his health. To quote Palpatine - "Good, let the hate flow through you"
 
Waltz is a poor pick.

He doesn't look "Presidential". As vacuous as that is, it matters in US Politics.

The right will label him as Bernie 2.0. He doesnt help to bring a state and it pushes Kamala further left.

Kamala has caved to the left and the unions. Probably scared of protests at the DNC. And maybe concerned that Shapiro is "too ambitions".

I guess she does have a thing for old white men though.

Prediction - Kamals loses in 2024 and Whitmer & Shapiro win in 2028.
You thought Kamala Harris was so unpresidential she wasn’t even suitable to be Joe Biden’s running mate. Lots of others would agree she is not “presidential”.

Mike Pence was plainly not “presidential”. Joe Biden took 3 attempts and 32 years to convince his own party he was “presidential” enough to win.

Before that you had Dick Cheney, Al Gore and Dan Quayle, and that takes us through the 90s. Do you seriously think the majority of them fit the bill for being “presidential”?

Vice presidents are famously irrelevant. The last two were absolute ghosts in the administration. It seems like you want to indulge the vacuous thought while blaming it on some imaginary US criteria that rarely applies.
 
Kamala Harris is the perfect example of a person who goes up the ladder step by step: District Attorney, General Attorney, Senator, Vice President… and maybe President.
 
I think that's a mistake here. My preference for Walz isn't so much policy based (even though I align with him more). Shapiro's capable and a good orator, but I don't think he's as persuasive a speaker and interviewee as Walz. There's an authenticity and relatability to Walz that I think plays better with folk than the slick proclamations of yet another well oiled, well rehearsed lawyer.

Just the way I see it of course.
I'm pretty far away from all this, but that's my impression as well. Walz sounds like a normal dude when he's talking, while Shapiro always has this rhetorical style and word salad thing going on that they seem to teach at US universities. (Or at least, I've never heard it done quite as 'well' as by US academics.) I don't know how those things appeal to common voters, but Walz's appearance definitely appeals more to me.
 
Coach vs couch?

Walz was a coach, so its been mentioned a few times by Harris.
 
I'm pretty far away from all this, but that's my impression as well. Walz sounds like a normal dude when he's talking, while Shapiro always has this rhetorical style and word salad thing going on that they seem to teach at US universities. (Or at least, I've never heard it done quite as 'well' as by US academics.) I don't know how those things appeal to common voters, but Walz's appearance definitely appeals more to me.
Yes.

Think about it: he’s a governor of a MW state, a former teacher, a former member of congress, a former coach and a veteran. He’s really appealing to a wide range of audience.

Also: this Harris is much more matured than the candidate in 2020. I feel better about her candidacy now than I did before.