2024 U.S. Elections | Trump wins

Revan said:
There were rumours that some people wanted him. While I like him a lot, and I think that he wins the independent vote, he won't energise the main Democrat base vote, and cannot win.

Dems should have tried to change his mind on running for his senate office, but that is too late now. Him declining to run basically means that there is no path for Dems to win the senate.
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Interesting, rare to hear someone say they actually like him, he is kind of an ass imo, and clearly likes attention, why do you like him, if i may ask?

Not denying that it has been very useful for the democrats to have a senator in WV of all places, in order to pass some of their agenda though.
 
WI_Red said:
Well, that finishes off my “right wing conspiracy theory” bingo card.
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Speaking of conspiracy theories, Biden didn’t even bother with a televised, statesmanlike announcement for his campaign withdrawal. Instead, he tweeted it with a digitally generated signature on Elon’s X. How classy! This wasn’t just an insult to the American public—it’s the latest act in the coup happening right under our noses while we’re being told that democracy is on the line.


"Guys, I'm dropping out of the race. I talk to you about it sometime next week"

President of the United States


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
Suedesi said:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/george-soros-heir-son-alexander-soros-e3c4ca13

George Soros Hands Control to His 37-Year-Old Son: ‘I’m More Political’​

In his first interview as successor, Alex Soros says the family’s $25 billion philanthropic enterprise will boost its support for voting and abortion rights​


Wait til you find who's he married to....
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Why is this relevant when Republicans have plenty of wealthy donors as well, including Ketamine lovin' Elon Musk and pro-Russia charlatan David Sacks. That's before we even get to Peter Thiel and the lobotmized tech-bro sheep who follow him.
 
Raoul said:
Why is this relevant when Republicans have plenty of wealthy donors as well, including Ketamine lovin' Elon Musk and pro-Russia charlatan David Sacks. That's before we even get to Peter Thiel and the lobotmized tech-bro sheep who follow him.
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Those are fine, upstanding gentlemen. Soros is a known (((globalist)))
 
Suedesi said:
Speaking of conspiracy theories, Biden didn’t even bother with a televised, statesmanlike announcement for his campaign withdrawal. Instead, he tweeted it with a digitally generated signature on Elon’s X. How classy! This wasn’t just an insult to the American public—it’s the latest act in the coup happening right under our noses while we’re being told that democracy is on the line.


"Guys, I'm dropping out of the race. I talk to you about it sometime next week"

President of the United States


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Coup :lol: :rolleyes:
 
Raoul said:
Why is this relevant when Republicans have plenty of wealthy donors as well, including Ketamine lovin' Elon Musk and pro-Russia charlatan David Sacks. That's before we even get to Peter Thiel and the lobotmized tech-bro sheep who follow him.
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Pointing that there's hardly any difference between the parties. Most of the tech moguls and Wall Street bigwigs have been cozying up with the Democrats. Now, a handful of them have dared to peek over the fence at the GOP, and suddenly the Dems are acting like it's the end of the world.
 
Nonsense


GTFTHUUXkAE9ONi

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/21/why-biden-dropped-out-00170106



Biden really didn't want to go.

  1. Biden gets COVID.
  2. Biden stays home.
  3. Biden's Twitter account announces he’s dropping out.
  4. No speech or anything prepared; he's not seen.
In a classic coup, they’d keep him at home and just announce his drop-out without his consent. Then Biden faces a new reality: either accept it and play along or embarrass himself by claiming it wasn’t his decision. People will say he’s demented and forgot it anyway, forcing him out regardless. The perfect coup.
 
I'm pissing myself laughing at this comedy. Just when I thought the Republicans had mastered the art of cringe and cult-like antics, the Democrats jump in with a "hold my champagne" moment.

We are in a post-parody world, people (or NEETs as most of you are).
 
Suedesi said:
Pointing that there's hardly any difference between the parties. Most of the tech moguls and Wall Street bigwigs have been cozying up with the Democrats. Now, a handful of them have dared to peek over the fence at the GOP, and suddenly the Dems are acting like it's the end of the world.
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I could be wrong, but i think since citizens united, big money donors have backed republicans a decent amount more, exception being 2016.
 
Suedesi said:
I'm pissing myself laughing at this comedy. Just when I thought the Republicans had mastered the art of cringe and cult-like antics, the Democrats jump in with a "hold my champagne" moment.

We are in a post-parody world, people (or NEETs as most of you are).
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What's so comedic about the Dems going with a younger candidate ?
 
Morty_ said:
I could be wrong, but i think since citizens united, big money donors have backed republicans a decent amount more, exception being 2016.
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Yes, that was the entire purpose of Republicans pushing for it, to give them unfettered access to corporate money because they knew they would go broke if they had to rely on ordinary citizens to help fund their campaigns. This is why Suedesi's above anti-Soros post (a known right wing trope) is do disingenuous.
 


There's some clown posts on this page, but fetterman as usual makes the best one.
 
berbatrick said:


There's some clown posts on this page, but fetterman as usual makes the best one.
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I mean, for once, i think Fetterman isn't exactly wrong, they cast Biden aside as soon as he became a real liability, so much for friendship and loyalty, politics is dirty business.
 
berbatrick said:


There's some clown posts on this page, but fetterman as usual makes the best one.
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Its as simple as they want to win. If Biden was viewed as a probable loss, they were obviously going to do whatever was necessary to convince him to step aside.
 
Morty_ said:
I mean, for once, i think Fetterman isn't exactly wrong, they cast Biden aside as soon as he became a real liability, so much for friendship and loyalty, politics is dirty business.
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It's not dirty, we're talking about electing the president of the united states here nor the PTA. Anyone putting loyalty or friendship ahead of the interests of their nation would be insulting their voters.
 
Smores said:
It's not dirty, we're talking about electing the president of the united states here nor the PTA. Anyone putting loyalty or friendship ahead of the interests of their nation would be insulting their voters.
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I wasn't suggesting anybody should put Biden's ego over anything else, it was the right thing to do, to at least give dems a fighting chance now, but does it not sound hollow, to have people who pushed him out, immediately praised him for being a great president?
 
Reps seem to be in panic mode, they're throwing different narratives around at this time see what sticks.

Claiming it as a coup is the dumbest shit. How can you have a coup in a nomination process?
 
Suedesi said:


GTFTHUUXkAE9ONi

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/21/why-biden-dropped-out-00170106
Nah. This is basically alt-right level of conspiracy theory.


Biden really didn't want to go.

  1. Biden gets COVID.
  2. Biden stays home.
  3. Biden's Twitter account announces he’s dropping out.
  4. No speech or anything prepared; he's not seen.
In a classic coup, they’d keep him at home and just announce his drop-out without his consent. Then Biden faces a new reality: either accept it and play along or embarrass himself by claiming it wasn’t his decision. People will say he’s demented and forgot it anyway, forcing him out regardless. The perfect coup.
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This is alt-right level of conspiracy-theory.
 
Suedesi said:
In a classic coup, they’d keep him at home and just announce his drop-out without his consent. Then Biden faces a new reality: either accept it and play along or embarrass himself by claiming it wasn’t his decision. People will say he’s demented and forgot it anyway, forcing him out regardless. The perfect coup.
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Little known fact: this is how Allende was deposed.
 
Morty_ said:
Interesting, rare to hear someone say they actually like him, he is kind of an ass imo, and clearly likes attention, why do you like him, if i may ask?

Not denying that it has been very useful for the democrats to have a senator in WV of all places, in order to pass some of their agenda though.
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Basically, with Raoul going quite left and suedesi going quite right, I am the Caf’s last centrist. So I find Manchin’s political views quite refreshing, at a time where there is an ever-increasing polarization and almost a hive-minded mentality in both sides of the spectrum.

I also appreciate that he was the difference between a senate majority leader Schumers and a senate majority leader McConnell. Having had another 4 years of McConnell would not have been very great, to put it mildly. Finally, people have to understand that he is from West Virginia, if you want that seat, you have to compromise. Sure, you can go all Doug Jones, as he did in Alabama, but then you get unseated from that moron Tuberville.
 
Suedesi said:
Speaking of conspiracy theories, Biden didn’t even bother with a televised, statesmanlike announcement for his campaign withdrawal. Instead, he tweeted it with a digitally generated signature on Elon’s X. How classy! This wasn’t just an insult to the American public—it’s the latest act in the coup happening right under our noses while we’re being told that democracy is on the line.


"Guys, I'm dropping out of the race. I talk to you about it sometime next week"

President of the United States


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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I think you are being willfully obtuse here. He's not going to go on camera while is sick with covid and raspy voiced. That would be an even worse look, by far.
 
Suedesi said:


GTFTHUUXkAE9ONi

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/21/why-biden-dropped-out-00170106



Biden really didn't want to go.

  1. Biden gets COVID.
  2. Biden stays home.
  3. Biden's Twitter account announces he’s dropping out.
  4. No speech or anything prepared; he's not seen.
In a classic coup, they’d keep him at home and just announce his drop-out without his consent. Then Biden faces a new reality: either accept it and play along or embarrass himself by claiming it wasn’t his decision. People will say he’s demented and forgot it anyway, forcing him out regardless. The perfect coup.
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I'm honestly not sure if your posts are satire at this point :lol:
 
Is @Suedesi the Caf Infowars correspondent?

At least he isn't coy anymore and embraces his trumpism. I guess he got fed up with his centrism schtick. Not that anyone takes him seriously anyways.
 
Revan said:
Basically, with Raoul going quite left and suedesi going quite right, I am the Caf’s last centrist. So I find Manchin’s political views quite refreshing, at a time where there is an ever-increasing polarization and almost a hive-minded mentality in both sides of the spectrum.

I also appreciate that he was the difference between a senate majority leader Schumers and a senate majority leader McConnell. Having had another 4 years of McConnell would not have been very great, to put it mildly. Finally, people have to understand that he is from West Virginia, if you want that seat, you have to compromise. Sure, you can go all Doug Jones, as he did in Alabama, but then you get unseated from that moron Tuberville.
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AOC seems to be going full centrist lately as well. Ultimately, everything is related to the possibility of Trump getting re-elected.
 
Raoul said:
AOC seems to be going full centrist lately as well. Ultimately, everything is related to the possibility of Trump getting re-elected.
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I do not think so. But like Bernie, she understands that the best way of getting her agenda done is to play nice with the president. Otherwise, it will just lead to division and while might be cool for Twitter, won't result with much else.

About the second point, I think that Trump will get re-elected which will suck. Unfortunately, I think that his campaign is far better than before, and they have been saving him from himself several times. And Kamala is a historically unpopular politician which will make this election not particularly close (still think that Trump will win all 6 swing states, but unlike vs Biden, won't win Minnesota, New Mexico, Virginia etc).

Dems shot themselves in the foot when they decided that the best way of winning the election was by having a demented person as their candidate. And then, when they convinced to drop him with 1 year of delay, decided to crown the second most disliked active politician in their party.
 
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