2024 U.S. Elections | Trump wins

"They support abortion up to and even beyond the ninth month," Trump said in a video posted on Truth Social. "The concept of having an abortion in the later months, and even execution after birth. That's exactly what it is — the baby is born, and the baby is executed after birth." :lol:

His second term will be a sight to behold (from far away, thankfully).
 
Rob said:
"They support abortion up to and even beyond the ninth month," Trump said in a video posted on Truth Social. "The concept of having an abortion in the later months, and even execution after birth. That's exactly what it is — the baby is born, and the baby is executed after birth." :lol:

His second term will be a sight to behold (from far away, thankfully).
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Does this guy thinks he is in China or North Korea or what?
 
Rob said:
"They support abortion up to and even beyond the ninth month," Trump said in a video posted on Truth Social. "The concept of having an abortion in the later months, and even execution after birth. That's exactly what it is — the baby is born, and the baby is executed after birth." :lol:

His second term will be a sight to behold (from far away, thankfully).
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How can anyone take stuff like this seriously? Are his supporters really that stupid?
 
Clown.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/pro-a...ancelation-endorses-unity-around-constitution
Pro-America country rock singer speaks out after failed cancellation, endorses unity around Constitution
Aaron Lewis said that he is not worried about being canceled

Ahead of the 2024 presidential election, Lewis said he liked only a handful of political figures, naming former President Trump, Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., and former Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy, as a few examples.
 
Extremely impressive way of delivering this message by Jon Stewart on a "minor" issue for the average American voter.

 


So, the Arizona supreme court is made up of insane people, going back to draconian laws from 1860s.

They think they can do this without any backlash? Thats fine, lets see how they and Arizona GOP feel, when they not only lose the senate race, but also the state legislature at the same time.

This a major gift to the democrats.
 
Morty_ said:


So, the Arizona supreme court is made up of insane people, going back to draconian laws from 1860s.

They think they can do this without any backlash? Thats fine, lets see how they and Arizona GOP feel, when they not only lose the senate race, but also the state legislature at the same time.

This a major gift to the democrats.
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Well, how is a gift if in reality what it matters is what the laws are? Democrats might win all the candidates but if the judges have a lifetime job and they are right wing, is very difficult to change the law. Democrats: " new progressive law" . Supreme court: " Unconstitutional".
 
4bars said:
Well, how is a gift if in reality what it matters is what the laws are? Democrats might win all the candidates but if the judges have a lifetime job and they are right wing, is very difficult to change the law. Democrats: " new progressive law" . Supreme court: " Unconstitutional".
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Of course its a major gift electorally, this may just have thrown away the state for republicans, on about every level.

Also, abortion will likely be on the ballot directly, guess how the people will vote?

I doubt the courts can or will override all other branches, but even if they do, the legislature should just ignore them.
 
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Polls still wants me to believe that young people are really stoked on the republican party these days, for some reason.

Party that has never given them anything, and is actively working to take away their rights, sure thing....
 
Morty_ said:
Of course its a major gift electorally, this may just have thrown away the state for republicans, on about every level.

Also, abortion will likely be on the ballot directly, guess how the people will vote?

I doubt the courts can or will override all other branches, but even if they do, the legislature should just ignore them.
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Sure, this is very positive, but I think mcconnell and trump damaged the system with the judges for decades. Just my pessimistic POV. If conservative laws keep pilling up and they are not possible to be changed, I don't think is good news. Maybe for the democrats that they will get the money of ruling US, but the US will still in a shitty situation, being less and less educated with bans on books and the likes

In the end, the Ds will be the old Rs and the Rs will be(they are) far-right wing. So the whole spectrum is pushed to the right
 
4bars said:
Sure, this is very positive, but I think mcconnell and trump damaged the system with the judges for decades. Just my pessimistic POV. If conservative laws keep pilling up and they are not possible to be changed, I don't think is good news. Maybe for the democrats that they will get the money of ruling US, but the US will still in a shitty situation, being less and less educated with bans on books and the likes

In the end, the Ds will be the old Rs and the Rs will be(they are) far-right wing. So the whole spectrum is pushed to the right
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In terms of Arizona, guess who you can blame for this? None other than "moderate" Ducey, former governor.

He expanded the courts, and indeed, installed, i think two justices, who voted for this ban.

Just found out that Arizona supreme court are not lifetime positions, two of the judges that voted for civil war era laws, are up for re-election.

https://eu.azcentral.com/story/news...kathryn-h-king-up-for-reelection/73264249007/
 
Morty_ said:
In terms of Arizona, guess who you can blame for this? None other than "moderate" Ducey, former governor.

He expanded the courts, and indeed, installed, i think two justices, who voted for this ban.

Just found out that Arizona supreme court are not lifetime positions, two of the judges that voted for civil war era laws, are up for re-election.

https://eu.azcentral.com/story/news...kathryn-h-king-up-for-reelection/73264249007/
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Thats good. I would never understand life time judge positions
 
A whole lot of focus on Trump. There would be absolutely no concerns for me if there were even a half decent Democratic candidate. Running Biden again, just hand the keys over. American democracy is dead.
 
Ted Lasso said:
A whole lot of focus on Trump. There would be absolutely no concerns for me if there were even a half decent Democratic candidate. Running Biden again, just hand the keys over. American democracy is dead.
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If a party replaces its incumbent president, it will lose.

To the question about polling: it looks like Biden is now in a better position than he was few weeks ago. Still, he needs to be more in the lead.
 
Morty_ said:
Polls still wants me to believe that young people are really stoked on the republican party these days, for some reason.

Party that has never given them anything, and is actively working to take away their rights, sure thing....
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Are polls really suggesting this though? And which ones, the partisan ones or the generally accepted high-quality polls?
 
Consumer prices rose 3.5% from a year ago in March, more than expected

The consumer price index accelerated at a faster than expected pace in March, pushing inflation higher and likely keeping the Federal Reserve on hold with interest rates.

The CPI, a broad measure of goods and services costs across the economy, rose 0.4% for the month, putting the 12-month inflation rate at 3.5%, or 0.3 percentage point higher than in February, the Labor Department's Bureau of Labor Statistics reported Wednesday. Economists surveyed by Dow Jones had been looking for a 0.3% gain and a 3.4% year-over-year level.

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2024/04/10...-3point5percent-from-a-year-ago-in-march.html
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VorZakone said:
Are polls really suggesting this though? And which ones, the partisan ones or the generally accepted high-quality polls?
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I looked some more into this. It's all not really clear cut yet.

“Seems like we know how to poll white, middle-aged people really well,” said John Della Volpe, the director of polling for the Harvard Kennedy School Institute of Politics and an expert on polling young voters. “But if they’re younger, older, Black, Hispanic — there seems to be no consensus about what’s the best practice these days.”
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https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/07/voter-age-biden-trump-2024-election-00150923

Trump’s support may be overstated; just look at third-party support and his favorability. Polls specifically of young voters, like the Harvard Youth Poll, continue to show a large Biden advantage with younger voters (it was 11 points in December). They show that among the youth most likely to vote, Biden has an even bigger advantage (24 points).

In Quinnipiac’s survey, the results for young adults aged 18–34 gave Biden a 20-point advantage over Trump. Meanwhile, Fox’s survey showed that adults aged 18–29 backed Trump with an 18-point margin. This 38-point gap seems illogical, even if there are some discrepancies with the cohorts used in the surveys.
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https://www.vox.com/2024-elections/24125496/young-voters-trump-biden-polling
 
https://emersoncollegepolling.com/f...te-yes-on-abortion-protection-ballot-measure/


Might be good news for the referendum itself, but it means just about nothing for the presidential or senate race, as Trump is leading Biden by a whopping 13 points, Rick Scott leads by 7 points against the democrat opponent.

Even though Emerson tend to overestimate republicans and all that, Florida just isn't in play anymore.
 


Way to sabotage your own chances in November.
 
RedDevilQuebecois said:
Does this guy thinks he is in China or North Korea or what?
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His supporters are the same idiots who give loads of money to evangelists like Joel Osteen and Kenneth Copeland, who are absolute charlatans. They are also the same sort of people who thought the rapture was coming after the eclipse.
 
At a fundraiser in Mar-a-Lago.



Either those guys will be in a world of trouble under the UCMJ or we have a case of stolen valor.
 
I dont know internally, but foreign policy it is difficult to imagine trump doing it worse than biden. Sure, can be "hold my beer" moment. But biden had:

- The afghanistan fiasco: A run for your life retreat
- supporting militarily and economically the palestinian genocide with and unprecedented destruction and cruelty
- Not only not being able (doesnt want it to be fair) to reign in israel about gaza, but the region being on the brink of a war israel vs iran

Very very difficult to make it worse. feck genocide joe
 
4bars said:
I dont know internally, but foreign policy it is difficult to imagine trump doing it worse than biden. Sure, can be "hold my beer" moment. But biden had:

- The afghanistan fiasco: A run for your life retreat
- supporting militarily and economically the palestinian genocide with and unprecedented destruction and cruelty
- Not only not being able (doesnt want it to be fair) to reign in israel about gaza, but the region being on the brink of a war israel vs iran

Very very difficult to make it worse. feck genocide joe
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Honestly, that take is akin to the whole 'what does expertise really get us' that brought us Brexit and other such 'what could be worse' real life disasters.

I know this is clearly your passion, and typing Genocide Joe is very satisfying, but Trump has shown in every way to be a worse man, a worse mind, surrounds himself with worse people and gives no fcks whatsoever about anyone not called Donald J Trump.

There's a very real chance Russia would have seized several more countries and be at war with a US-less Nato at the moment if Trump was in power.

And Bibi is doing all he can to get Trump re elected. That could tell you something. But no. It's vastly easier to find a simple, catchy meme. What does experience and expertise really matter, the world sucks anyway. Let's burn it down.
 
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