He is a Musk fanboi of course he'll vote orange.
2024 U.S. Elections | Trump v Harris
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You just wrote the below in your previous long post.
You know very well the above isn't remotely true because Trump has been advocating ending the war without Russia returning Ukrainian land. He is effectively telling you Putin will get to keep the land he currently holds, and you're saying there's a 50/50 chance Trump ends the war favorably for Ukraine. That's clearly not the case.
Take it with a pinch of salt. Very much a campaign strategy this close to election day to shake complacency out of his voter base. Momentum is no longer a consideration.
At least Giggs86 had the cojones to publicly reveal who he voted for, despite knowing he would receive blowback for it.
I know what he said and know what he meant, but thanks for replying nonetheless.
Still, neither of you answered my question ..
Was she facing AK 74's?
Nihil novi sub sole.
If somebody ask me, no, i don't know latin for shit, one of my favorite games of all time thought me that quote.
On a serious note, 2016 was the most important election there could be, Trump did real damage to the US(and the world in the process) getting into office, even if you don't agree at all.
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If he is vehemently defending Trump you know who is vote is for. Maybe he just doesn’t want to admit publicly.
Is it that hard to believe that he doesn't vote because he's in NYC? If he feels his vote matters then he probably would vote for Trump, but it seems pretty logical to believe hes truthful in this case.
Giggs86 lives in Illinois. His vote doesn’t matter either but that didn’t stop him from exercising his right to vote.
Look at his previous posts. He supports most of Trump's policies. So even if he doesn't vote, he is still largely aligned with Trump.
It's really funny to do that for 1996!
I guess it's true of 1968, 1980, 2000, and either 2016 or 2020?
He's a true believer though, was pretty loud and proud in the 2020 thread. Suedesi is the hit and run 'all politicians are bad' kind but mysteriously if he has to choose a side it's always conservatives.
Yes, I'm well aware who he is, ran in with him since 2016 when he was questioning voter ID. I'm just saying given where he is it's pretty likely that he was telling the truth about his voting intention.
That was my previous point. Its one thing to advocate for policies Trump advocates for, its another to public reveal one voted for him, especially on a lib leaning forum.
Phew!
A lot of people that align with candidates still end up not voting for them. Him saying that he votes for Trump wouldn't even be close to being in top 100 dumbest things he said.
Yes, I know exactly what I wrote. I said that Trump would end the war in Ukraine. And since Ukraine can’t win this war, that’s actually a good thing for all.
But here’s what I didn’t write:
- “Russia will fall apart if we force a conflict in the Donbas.”
- “Sanctions will crush them.”
- “Putin’s hold on power is weak; we can remove him.”
- “Russia’s military is a paper tiger.”
Think i edited a bit late, 2016 was definitely the one since the Reagan election in 1980, in my opinion.
These quotes have little meaning given the war is still ongoing. If the war ended five years ago and any of the above were proven wrong, then that would be a valid point to make in retrospect. If Harris wins, Ukraine will continue to be supported for at least four more years.
Trump's internals on PA must be terrible for him given how hard he's pushing the idea of election interference there. He's preparing his base for a loss and challenging the election result.
2000. And Gore won fair and square too, he just got fecked by Jeb Bush + the SC.
2 terms Prez Gore = no Iraq, liberal SC majority, no Citizen Utd, no Heller vs DC, and so much more.
Fortunately, a sweep of the rust belt could allow Harris to declare victory before AZ or NV report on west coast time. Once the networks call the race, it makes it very difficult for Trump himself to claim victory. If she happens to nick GA or NC, then all the better. Although I suspect some of the states will be within .5% which would trigger automatic recounts that last days, which means we may not get a semi-formal calling of the election for a few days, possibly until the weekend.
It’s being done in a cleverer way, but the “I can’t believe you could possibly vote for trump” approach really doesn’t deter people. It emboldens them.
Doesn't a "sweep" in the rust belt entails several days of vote counting in Pennsylvania though?
Would be nice to have NC/Georgia/Arizona, one or two done, so we don't have to pay attention to PA at all.
That would be fantastic. Then all Trump will have left is fraud, which he is already claiming. Not much we can do about that except hope that Marc Elias and his team of lawyers smash the hack lawyers that Trump will roll out.
Oh, thank you, Raoul. So, apparently, I’ve got the guts to say what I actually think, no matter how much hate it brings, —but somehow, I'm just quivering in fear over admitting I’d vote for Trump? Yeah, that really adds up.
You've lost your mind buddy.
Bush was an absolute disaster, so thats one too, he also started the major fiscal decline of the US, after Clinton left him with a budget surplus.
So you go well beyond the actual words of the posts, because you know for certain what their true feelings are on the subject. I think that's ridiculous, so we're done here.
Iirc PA's Secretary of State said they expectedd to have the full result by Wednesday night. There are a lot less mails to process compated to 2020 so it helps in that regard.
Gabriel Sterling, COO of GA's SOS said they dont expect to get all oversea ballots in until Friday. If it's super close then don't expect result until then. NV will also take a long time to count going by 20/22.
So unless we get an early call out of PA, buckle in for a long couple of days at least.
It depends how close the votes are in PA, MI, and WI. If she wins them by more than .5% then they should have results in by Tuesday night and the networks can then make plausible calls on each of those states, and if she happens to run the table in the north (plus NE2) then that's the race. This is not to suggest she will run the table in the north though. Trump could easily win PA and throw a giant monkey wrench into her path to 270.
Guess PA is not only the most likely, but also the quickest path to 270 then, good to know.
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Why is Harris an Obama wannabe? I see no similarities at all aside from their party affiliation. And how is "media" biased in favour of democrats. Have you seen Fox news? They always brag about being bigger than all other media companies combined don't they? Trump is literally saying (literally, not internet literally) that he wants to use the national guard to go after his political opponents. Only difference being is that they have not actually commited crimes like sexual assault, fraud or insurrection.
I just don't see how any sentient being can not see that Trump has zero redeemable qualities, competences or morals. He's an idiot, narcissist gameshow host. The only thing that comforts me is that he is so entirely incompetent that he can't do much damage on his own and he is also too stupid to hire competent people, since he just hires the ones who compliment him.
That's a great point I forgot in my reply. Trump has used and is threatening to use his government to go after his political opponents and also ban any media channel or newspaper publication he disagrees with or who says anything against him. He's come out and said all this so many times and Vance has backed him up too.
Yeah, the censorship thing is what puzzles me the most.
Meanwhile a pregnant teenager from Texas has died after being refused emergency treatment in THREE hospitals. That poor girl. It's just so sad this could happen in this day and age. fecking disgusting.
Not good timing at all and certainly not great optics for Trump.
The sad thing is, because of the church takeover of hospitals, this can happen in states that allow abortions. California files a lawsuit against a religious hospital that did something similar.
Wait what? Churches control certain hospitals now in the States?
Honestly, handmaid's tale is slowly becoming reality or something.
Just awful to see this happening to American women in the year 2024.
Texas, if you vote blue, Trump and Cruz will be gone. Please do it.
It's really scary, especially since many hospitals are not upfront about their religious affiliation. And if you are in a rural area with just one hospital, you don't have a choice.
https://www.ansirh.org/research/ongoing/research-religious-healthcare-institutions
Quick facts on religious healthcare systems
- One out of five hospital beds resides in a religious hospital.
- About three-quarters of those hospitals are Catholic and operate according to consistent restrictions outlined in the Ethical and Religious Directives for Catholic Healthcare Services.
- As of 2016, four out of the ten largest health systems in the U.S. were Catholic.
We know the answer, it's just that it's inconvenient/uncomfortable for him to say it out loud.
It's difficult to justify voting for a convicted felon instead of a person who prosecutes convicted felons, so we'll always see weird logics based upon a lie. Like for example ending wars, something he wasn't able to do in his previous tenure. Or focusing exclusively in the problems one party have while openly ignoring the other one's participation in a complot to ignore the results of an election and then on an actual insurrection.
Considering Ukraine wouldn't exist as anything other than a puppet state ala Belarus had Trump won in 2020, we can obviously argue that the Biden administration have done a lot for Ukraine's continued existence as an independent state. It could have done a lot more if it weren't for the republicans opposition in the House and Senate.