2024 U.S. Elections | Trump v Harris



'When Britain sends its people, they are not sending their best'

'Let's not make a big deal about things going back to where it was 50 years ago'. Fvcking hell. So why stop there? Repeal the 19th and the 13th when you are at it.
 


'When Britain sends its people, they are not sending their best'

'Let's not make a big deal about things going back to where it was 50 years ago'. Fvcking hell. So why stop there? Repeal the 19th and the 13th when you are at it.

There is nothing more satisfying that watching Piers crash and burn on his own show. So many left leaning people have taken him to the cleaners - Cohen, Parkman, Mehdi, Hasan Abi, Destiny etc. He comes across as so dumb and a sneaky racist.

He only makes one argument over and over again to every single guest - oh is it right to call Trump the next Hitler when he killed 12m people. Literally no one on the left called him the next hitler - they called him a fascist. But he ignores the fact that only JD called him the next hitler.
 
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I know a Trump supporter who runs a business employing over 200 contractors. He disagrees strongly with Bidens DOL worker classification rules.
Another business owner I know supports Trump as he has benefited from the qualified business income tax deductions.
This is what you call sophistication? This is just them looking out for their own selfish interests. That Trump supporter who has 200 employees is a millionaire so he is pissed about having to pay an extra 6-7% in corporate taxes and the fact that people are joining unions. Thats not “sophisticated”. Call it as it is - Selfish!
I know Trump supporters who are infuriated with the fact that illegal border crossings have skyrocketed under Biden. Hard to argue against that.
Ok well this isnt a new situation. Multiple presidents have had this problem and it’s not going away in the next 4 years. It isn’t a new problem that Biden created. Btw let’s talk about deportation of illegal immigrants - Obama and Biden have deported more illegal aliens than Trump did. Trump deported 1.5m illegals. Obama deported 3m illegals and Biden has deported more than the 1.5m that Trump deported.
I know Trump supporters that are vehemently pro life due to religious beliefs.
Again this isn’t sophistication - this is backward belief based on a “book” that’s basically fiction. This whole 6 week abortion ban is ridiculous cause some of the women wont know if they are pregnant until week 8.
All know that Trump is largely an idiot, but believe when it comes down to governing and the fact he is supported by the Republican policy apparatus, it will lead to lower taxes and less regulation for their business.
I come back to this point - they are doing it all of selfish interests. Ask them to name one policy of his and they won’t be able to cause he isn’t running on one.
It wouldn't stop me having a beer with them or playing as round of golf with them. I say that as I know these people from my golf club in North Carolina. All good, honest, family people that I respect, even though i disagree with them on many issues. The secret is to not make politics the be all and end all. I know some that do and i avoid them.
You are allowed to have a beer with whoever you like but this isn’t any normal election. If McCain or Romney was running I’d prolly vote for them over Harris but this is a fascist running and you don’t vote for this man especially after the rhetoric they have heard.

This rhetoric isn’t even half the problem. Half of them prolly don’t give a shit about Project 2025 or the fact that Musk and RFK Jr are going to be so involved in the admin. There is so much harm that is going to be done in the next 4 years and they are fine voting for a fascist cause they get to save a few bucks on taxes? I find that completely ridiculous.
 


Last Marist poll for the Midwest, probably one more round of Sun Belt and/or national.

Essentially same as other in terms of it being a MoE race, but has Harris hitting 50 in all 3.
 

He has a point. And this is it: the politicians which send soldiers to war, barring a few (there are some in American history, or a decent amount, as per Rome, which were within the military apparatus as soldiers or generals or whatever else: JFK as a soldier, Eisenhower as a general, and McCain as a soldier, etc.) have never been to war and would never go and do what it is they ask other people to go and do.

He expresses it in typical Trump terms, though, which is easy to misinterpret as a threat.
 
remember, this is the guy who supposedly gave the PLO a good deal which they were fools to reject :lol:
It obviously wasn't all the PLO wanted and there wasn't much detail on how Gaza would be dealt with under any agreement, but compared to now and what has transpired since it doesn't look half bad.

Which is all irrelevant now and Clinton and almost everyone else should probably shut the feck up, as they are neither helping Harris nor helping the current situation in Gaza.
 
He has a point. And this is it: the politicians which send soldiers to war, barring a few (there are some in American history, or a decent amount, as per Rome, which were within the military apparatus as soldiers or generals or whatever else: JFK as a soldier, Eisenhower as a general, and McCain as a soldier, etc.) have never been to war and would never go and do what it is they ask other people to go and do.

He expresses it in typical Trump terms, though, which is easy to misinterpret as a threat.
Probably because it was very much meant to be a threat as well. And the irony coming from the orange draft dodger .....
 
He has a point. And this is it: the politicians which send soldiers to war, barring a few (there are some in American history, or a decent amount, as per Rome, which were within the military apparatus as soldiers or generals or whatever else: JFK as a soldier, Eisenhower as a general, and McCain as a soldier, etc.) have never been to war and would never go and do what it is they ask other people to go and do.

He expresses it in typical Trump terms, though, which is easy to misinterpret as a threat.
He can make that point directly about Dick Cheney, the fact that he pivoted to threatening a woman says a lot about how his mind work.

And I'm not giving these fecks any leeway, remember the kerfuffle about Biden saying 'let's put him under the bull's eye (of public opinion)' after Butler and MAGA cried foul? Two can play at that game.