Trump is getting criticized. Its just that people aren't going to be moved by his idiocy anymore than they were in 16 or 20. His base knows what he brings to the table and will vote for him either way, as will a lot of traditional Republicans who don't like him but like his policies. The only ones remaining are a sliver of independents that he and Harris are fighting over, that will tip the election towards whoever wins them.
2024 U.S. Elections | Trump v Harris
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Trump is getting criticized. Its just that people aren't going to be moved by his idiocy anymore than they were in 16 or 20. His base knows what he brings to the table and will vote for him either way, as will a lot of traditional Republicans who don't like him but like his policies. The only ones remaining are a sliver of independents that he and Harris are fighting over, that will tip the election towards whoever wins them.
He is completely unable to ever give the clear, concise and correct answer to any question.
He basically said it is better to get the Medal of Freedom because it's just the same as the Medal of Honor without getting shot of killed.
All you have to instead, it be a GOP mega donor like The Adelsons.
It's such a childlike way of thinking of things.
They've already achieved it by running someone who's not a convicted felon.
If he does, it could be a gamechanger.
Although, how devoted are his voters? Are they wedded to him, or do they just not want Biden/Trump and now Harris. Apparently Harris has already peeled off a lot of them.
Would the rest move to Trump?
I can see him endorsing Trump. To have a Kennedy endorsing Trump, even if he is a nut job, would be a boost.
of course, grifters gonna griift
Do we think the pro Gaza protests are going to overshadow the DNC? I can see some MAGA instigators being planted in there to stir things up.
I don't get what you are criticizing here. State finance isn't anything like household finance in terms of having to balance the books each year. States (at all levels) invest in their jurisdiction and that has long-term effects, which is why investments don't necessarily have to be balanced out immediately. Letting debt run rampant isn't good of course, but her answer here is totally legitimate and economically sound.
I would additionally say that it is important to say this out loud often, so this stupid idea of having the balance the state's books every year starts being challenged in public opinion.
And this is even really long-term (like infrastructure investments often are); the effects on communities, health care costs, and tax revenue will start appearing within the year.
So to me, it's a great answer and exactly the sort of bigger point that I'd like politicians to raise.
The Harris campaign are trying to mitigate protests by creating a panel at the DNC to discuss Palestinian human rights. There will probably still be protests both outside and inside the arena, including when she speaks.
Programs that cost money have to be paid for, usually by way of Congress appropriating money in the annual budget. Everything from the defense budget to infrastructure to social programs have to be accounted for in terms of where the money will come from. Therefore if one is running for President, they of all people, should be able to provide an answer when proposing such a policy.
The thing is, if he had phrased it in political doublespeak, it wouldn’t have blown up in his face at all. Something along the line of ‘I have the utmost respect for MoH recipients, they did our country the greatest service a person can give, however it’s poor compensation for the pain and suffering they and their loved ones endure, and the Presidential Medal of Freedom recipients, who also did our country great service, are in a much better position to enjoy that honor in their civilian life’
But as John Kelly already revealed, Trump couldn’t fathom the idea of risking your neck in military service, questioning ‘what’s in it for them?’, so he can’t even be deceptive about it.
They say Vance is sabotaging his campaign but he's doing a great job of it himself.
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Sorry to be pedmatic but there is no such thing as the Congressional Medal of Honour. (Yes, it's spelt 'honour' not 'honor'
It's the Medal of Honour and it's awarded by Congress.
/Mini rant over
Comparing them at all is silly. He didn't have to do it. Zero reason to offend anyone with that but he goes out of his way.
This is what I think too.
Absolutely agree. These are not serious politicians we are talking about, we are talking about far right extremists who would stop at nothing to gain an advantage. The Dems need to step up and be more ruthless - the stakes are too high to play nice.
They say Vance is sabotaging his campaign but he's doing a great job of it himself.
Just waiting for him to say that soldiers dying is them losing, and he got out of the draft with a false bone spurs claim because he didn’t want to be a loser.
Finally the voice of reason!
+7 in Michigan can't be remotely right, but it's not looking too shabby at the moment.
There are apparently areas setup for protestors right outside the convention center. So it'll be very visible for anyone taking footage from outside.
Seeing signs of "Globalize the Intifada"
As much as a I sympathize with those in Gaza and those protesting, these kind of slogans and signs are pretty much own goals and will do more harm than good.
As much as a I sympathize with those in Gaza and those protesting, these kind of slogans and signs are pretty much own goals and will do more harm than good.
What would you like the signs to say?
All polls are a random shuffle atm
Not something that carries negative connotations for the average American citizen.
Yes, there's nuance to this slogan and it's been around for decades, but the average American doesn't know that. The average American won't research the context behind it, they will see the slogan, associate it immediately with Hamas and then think these people are all pro Hamas.
Harris/Waltz 2024
The DNC platform has been released...
https://democrats.org/news/dnc-releases-2024-party-platform-to-be-voted-on-at-convention/
https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/FINAL-MASTER-PLATFORM.pdf
One would have thought they could have done a search and replace and taken Biden/Harris out and replaced with Harris/Walz.
https://democrats.org/news/dnc-releases-2024-party-platform-to-be-voted-on-at-convention/
https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/FINAL-MASTER-PLATFORM.pdf
One would have thought they could have done a search and replace and taken Biden/Harris out and replaced with Harris/Walz.
As terrible as the situation is in Gaza, protesters are playing into the hands of Trump.
Trump would love to see Gaza flattened. To him, it's oceanside land, ideal for golf clubs, maybe even a Trump Gaza resort!
I'm sure.
So this is what happens when your undercover guy is a well known troll
I doubt the average American even knows what Intifada means rendering it a useless slogan anyway.
Nate Silver has put himself forward for an AMA (20 mins ago) and judging by the comments it’s not going to go as he expected.
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/s/l4lUOBDOrW
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/s/l4lUOBDOrW
+7 in Michigan is more likely than +6 in Wisconsin, but it’s very unlikely.
Some of the questions though are absolutely insanely stupid:
Like "Why do you work for Peter Thiel."
Nate Silver consults for a data science/predictive analytics company, which has a very small stake in it by a company called Founds fund, which itself has a 7.5% stake owned by Peter Thiel.
Somehow that makes him "work for Peter Thiel" jesus christ.
Tay Tay to return from London and show up at the DNC on Wed/Thu. Trump meltdown.
This guy's a walking unforced error...
Hey now, it's our award so we get to spell it 'honor' and even the society spells it 'honor'. https://www.cmohs.org/