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No. If you vote for a divisive bigot it's a sign of unity? Fair enough. We'll just park it there.
It’s a sign of being less ethnically divided as Americans, and that’s all. It’s a simple matter of fact. There isn’t unity as it’s still just one third, assuming the stat is accurate.

I’m not making a value judgement on what they’re actually voting for.
 
I also can't explain what annoys me about her, but the feeling was there right from the off.
there are many female politicians around the world to whom I don't react the same way, so it's not about the sex.

idk.
If she annoys you, then impact does Trump have?!
 
I think Rory Stewart proving (again) that he's not the great lost British politician that some claim him to be. How the feck can he think that Harris was a good candidate who ran a good campaign?
Don't think she could have run a better campaign. Think it would have been tough for any Dem in her situation.
 
Well. Thats pretty shocking.
The idea that people were tricked or misled into voting for Trump doesn't really hold up, does it? The guy hasn't shut up the last 8+ years. I basically supported and backed anything and everything the democrats threw at people the last few years because i was terrified of this happening but now that its over ... they were pretty uninspiring choices for candidate and won my support by default. I probably would have hated their guts 10 years ago before a facist became the alternative.
 
MSNBC lives in an alternate reality. I thought it was just Fox but these lunatics give old school (2000s Fox) a run for their money.

They think that the only reason there is any light in the world's economy is because of the US. Maddow is such a fecking fraud.
 
Utterly depressing news to wake up to. It hits differently this time with a little boy that will be 2 years old a week today. I just can’t help but fear for the world he’s growing into. What’s going to become of Ukraine?
The best that you can do is to make sure he is raised with the right values regardless of the rest of the country.
 
Absolutely this. Are people surprised at all that Trump is leading? Win lose or draw, it is a damning indictment of the establishment. Whatever Trump’s faults are, there is so much disillusionment and faults with the current system. People say we are fecked with Trump, but are we not currently fecked?
Trump is leading because Americans like him and his policies. This time it’s not a protest vote.
 
It’s a sign of being less ethnically divided as Americans, and that’s all. It’s a simple matter of fact. There isn’t unity as it’s still just one third, assuming the stat is accurate.

I’m making a value judgement on what they’re actually voting for.

The idea that you're clinging to the idea that bigotry crossing the ethnic divide is a positive is depressing, and a little amusing. And on brand.
 
Don't think she could have run a better campaign. Think it would have been tough for any Dem in her situation.
What did she offer? Name a single policy? How would she differ from Biden?
 
MSNBC lives in an alternate reality. I thought it was just Fox but these lunatics give old school (2000s Fox) a run for their money.

They think that the only reason there is any light in the world's economy is because of the US. Maddow is such a fecking fraud.
Maddow has laughed way too much tonight.
 
The best that you can do is to make sure he is raised with the right values regardless of the rest of the country.
Problem is that in this country especially - it's near impossible to shield children from the vitriol out there these days. There is a lot of hate out there that should make any half decent parent worry on a daily basis.
 
Don't worry, you ll grow to hate DC regardless of who's in the WH. Like everyone else before you, myself included.
Yeah people here are uh..interesting. As a West Yorkshire Brit it’s certainly an adjustment.
 
Absolutely this. Are people surprised at all that Trump is leading? Win lose or draw, it is a damning indictment of the establishment. Whatever Trump’s faults are, there is so much disillusionment and faults with the current system. People say we are fecked with Trump, but are we not currently fecked?

Harris is way less establishment than Biden. I think her being a woman must be part of it. That and failing to understand the economy and the effect Trump will have on it.
 
Legal permanent resident since the day I arrived to this country, citizen since 2007. More than a half of my life I have lived in United States. Not quite as American as John Wayne but working toward it. ;)
Yeah well, you’re not the kind of American they’re talking about bud. Hope you don’t get exactly what you’ve asked for.
 
As others have said, this will have a major impact on right wing politicians across the world to be more racist and xenophobic in their views. We just got over the racist riots in this country where we couldn’t leave our homes. Those same people will be emboldened by this. It’s a complete shit state of affairs.
 
Maddow has laughed way too much tonight.
She’s been irrelevant for the last 4 years. She’s getting giddy at all the exclusives and investigations that are going to topple Trump over the next 4 years.
 
MSNBC lives in an alternate reality. I thought it was just Fox but these lunatics give old school (2000s Fox) a run for their money.

They think that the only reason there is any light in the world's economy is because of the US. Maddow is such a fecking fraud.

Yeah, they are idiots. In some ways they exist only as a counterpoint to Fox, but instead of adding balance, between the pair of them they just distorted reality.
 
Three of them, in fact ;)

I’m just glad you said it, now I feel less inclined to do it myself.

Dude thinks he’s being subtle, but it’s clear what’s under the surface. And making light of Jones’ Sandy Hook "shenanigans" as well… absolutely disgusting.
 
They'll keep Brits as curiosities.
depending on what type of brit

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People wondering why Trump. CNN just showed it. The darker the area the more inflation and so forth (all cost of living indices) have outpaced wage increases. There is literally one county in the entire nation which is not dark. That's why Trump won and it was this depression, despite GDP figures, which fed Trump in the first place. It was predictable (indeed, Chomsky came quite close to literally predicting it years before).
 
As others have said, this will have a major impact on right wing politicians across the world to be more racist and xenophobic in their views. We just got over the racist riots in this country where we couldn’t leave our homes. Those same people will be emboldened by this. It’s a complete shit state of affairs.
Yep. We already have morons aping right wing Americans and their language. That's not going to improve any time soon.
 
It’s also an opportunity for Europe to grow a pair.

True. We can't keep hiding behind the US skirts. Maybe an EU army will allow us to shape our foreign policy for once. No more kissing netanyahu ass or turning against china/iran cause the US says so
 
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