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2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress
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Spot on.
Y'all still up?
The best thing I did was turn off my phone and go to bed at 9 pm.
The best thing I did was turn off my phone and go to bed at 9 pm.
Crisis of the 21st Century coming right up.
This, exactly.
Thread follow the chain for votes left to be counted in each state.
Is Biden expecting disproportionate vote dumps in deciding states of Wis, Mich and Pa? Seems to be decent vote counts in all?
agreed
People like these straw men arguments.
this is not 2016. If Trump wins, it is because he actually won a lot more votes across almost all demographics
Who'd have thought that putting kids in cages, tearing families apart, having snatch squads on the streets, having your police murder black people every other day, sucking up to dictators, blatant nepotism and ignoring a worldwide pandemic would be such a vote winner?
California made Uber/Lyft drivers independent contractors as opposed to employees, after $200 million worth of lobbying by those companies (and maybe others I don't remember).
I'd definitely be keen to have that debate when the votes are in and we have a clearer idea of what the gaps were! In this case I'm not asking whether Sanders was better then Biden, but whether the strengths that were suggested for Biden ever materialised? If not, it's worth reconsidering the overall calculus. Maybe people were expecting Biden to beat Trump on something he wasn't beatable on, or at least not with Biden's tools.
Thing is, this is the pitfall of democracy. If Trump is good for me and bad for you, why would you expect me to vote for your well-being over mine?
Well said Olly! It’s very frustrating where we are as a planet.
None of that is because of Biden. It’s down to Trump voters simply outperforming due to their cultish devotion to him. There’s no evidence any other Dem candidate would’ve been even remotely as successful at being competitive in these rather unique circumstances.
Starting to love the Olly rant.
Its a reality check -- you are surrounded by cnuts, idiots and criminals or at least half the country fits that description.
This is the Sancho thread all over again. "It's still possible".
Where does it say 1% is outstanding? Fulton, which is a the largest county, stopped counting ages ago and the outstanding amount in that county alone is >1%.
I can’t believe Trump was impeached after soliciting foreign interference and people STILL voted for him, Christ. 
Yeah maybe I'm basing too much of my logic on my own thought process. Witnessing all this and imagining it's mainly petulance makes it even worse somehow
Respectfully, this comment has absolutely nothing to do with you, then. My comment does not apply to rational, educated people. There is a significant minority of largely uneducated voters (at least in the traditional sense of the word ‘educated’) where shit like this actually does factor into their voting decision.
.Did Trump win then?
Totally agree. Both of them are shit. But to think they are equally shit or it makes no difference beggars belief. To think you need to be invited to support them in the midst of a pandemic, even worse.
He never even built his fecking wall.
But the exits suggested the economy is a big issue for voters, in that case isn't it expected the republicans win the presidency?
He’s operating off the Fox feed which is way different than NYT and CNN.
Look, I’d respond thoughtfully but you’ve completely misinterpreted my post, wilfully or otherwise. Why you’d bring up what people ‘deserve’ is staggering to me. Who cares what they deserve? I’m talking about the practical consequence of arguing not with logic but with emotion.
I don't see that happening. What data are you using?
There's still no winner?
Cheers. The conclusion I take from that is basically: Please win without NC because we won't know the final results there for a while.
No, no - they were mostly wrong in this elections. I didn't say that you said they were never wrong
I can’t believe Trump was impeached after soliciting foreign interference and people STILL voted for him, Christ.
Whoever wins, the very sobering fact of this election will be, that tens of millions of people still support Trump. A Biden win, would not fix anything - the country would still more divided than ever. Until Republicans across the board actively starts rebuking Trump for his lunacy, there is no way the country is going back to normal - whatever that was.
But you have to explain it to people. Door knocking is a good start. Good advertising comes next. Most Trump supporters probably couldn't tell you one Biden policy other than "he wants a complete lockdown" (which isn't true) "which would be a disaster for our economy" (also not true).
Stop chatting shit.
What we don't care to admit is that there's a large percentage of the worlds population that falls under this category. It's highly depressing.
It's down to 2 last states, MI and PA and they are showing Trump leading by around 6% with 60 - 70% votes counted.
GA, WI and NC are will probably lose fall to Trump. Just a matter of time to make it official.
Honestly, at this point it looks to me that the American political system as a whole will break down sooner or later. The hyper-polarisation and the breakdown of any sort of consensus and unwritten rules between the two big parties means it just doesn't work anymore. And that will be increasingly obvious in the coming years, regardless of who wins this election in the end.
Laura Loomer lost
Yeah, you and me both. It’s fecking staggering and it makes me angry. Nonetheless, we cannot ignore that uncomfortable truth.Yeah maybe I'm basing too much of my logic on my own thought process. Witnessing all this and imagining it's mainly petulance makes it even worse somehow
There's no true victory at this point. Even if Biden does snatch a very unlikely win from the postal votes its going to cause such an almighty shit storm it will run and run and likely dog his entire presidency for the next 4 years till the Republicans come back with avengence. That's even if they manage to swing it on the postal votes and some shenangians aren't used to discount them.
Of course more likely if Trump will just shade it with the postal votes anyway and the country will be even more divided that 4 years ago. The only safe route out of this election was a sound defeat for Trump settled on the day. Trump has shown Trumpian politics are a resounding success for Republicans, this is the tactic all the way down from here on in. Trump will be the benchmark for Republican candidates going forward. Certainly their next candidate will almost certainly be his pick.
Of course more likely if Trump will just shade it with the postal votes anyway and the country will be even more divided that 4 years ago. The only safe route out of this election was a sound defeat for Trump settled on the day. Trump has shown Trumpian politics are a resounding success for Republicans, this is the tactic all the way down from here on in. Trump will be the benchmark for Republican candidates going forward. Certainly their next candidate will almost certainly be his pick.
So we agree they are rarely wrong. What a waste of time that was.
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