2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress
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Can people relax? Trump looks like he will win FL, TX and NC but Biden has other paths to victory.
Plato was right, democracy sucks. Even if Biden wins it's just genuinely baffling how people can fall for Trump; a man who appeals to the very worst in people and succeeds.
My statement was just for the way the counting happened today and not for the history of the state . As in a lot of the states have started off today as blue in the counting and later ended up red . Now most of these states might be red anyway but I am just talking about how Florida,Ohio ,NC etc all started the counting with a blue lead
Yes Atlanta will be delayed due to flooding at their count centre
Yeah, I'm thinking the same.
I refuse to believe that for the sake of my own sanity.
FL showed the same pattern though.
I think white women is a scratch or in Biden's favour.
The only way a Trump win would have been more palpable is if the Senate would flip but.. 
Poor Nate Silver
He isn't responsible for the polls, but he is going to take some heat again
He isn't responsible for the polls, but he is going to take some heat again
So Arizona has 700-800k votes left and Biden is 200k ahead . If that flips red it's going to be so depressing
It is interesting that at least half of America doesn't seem to mind him embarrassing the country on the world stage, amongst other things
So the Turtle doesn't get flipped. If Trump was given free rein in the 1st term.... Trumpistan
Closet fascists and racists
Every swing state has gone for Trump so far (and except N. Carolina, comfortably so). Arizona gives me some hope, but it is not sure and might not be enough. In addition, the GOP senators are winning easily than expected, so as bad as it sounds, seems that GOP has won again.
It's not that I literally don't believe it; it just... doesn't compute.
What are they saying? I'm with BBC
As a Labour member, this feels (in a much more consequential way) than the 2015 election did - the polls were off, the ground game was misleading, and the Exit Poll was a huge kick in the gut and unexpected.
Trump 6% ahead in Ohio.
Any state that was shifting towards red and fairly close at last election has a chance of turning red and any state that was shifting towards blue and fairly close at last election has a chance of turning blue.
The majority of states have been shifting towards red for the last 2 elections after the majority had shifted towards blue when Obama won.
Arizona and Texas shifted towards blue at last election so should not be a surprise if one or both turned blue at this election.
I think Texas will probably stay red, but could change at next election.
Arizona might turn blue this election, regardless of who wins overall.
The majority of states have been shifting towards red for the last 2 elections after the majority had shifted towards blue when Obama won.
Arizona and Texas shifted towards blue at last election so should not be a surprise if one or both turned blue at this election.
I think Texas will probably stay red, but could change at next election.
Arizona might turn blue this election, regardless of who wins overall.
He deserves it. He shouldn't have been coming out talking his 90% chance rubbish. He should have learned his lesson and "margin of error" and even a "1% chance X win means the polls were right" comments don't really hold. I could just make up some numbers and declare 4% margin of error and even if X wins with 1% my margin of error was still "right".
I wouldn't be surprised if his obnoxious polls actually helped depressed the Dem vote in key locations
Anyone trying to call this race now is fecking mental. Trump has very few paths to victory, and shit like ‘OMG he won Florida!’ don’t move that needle in the slightest. He was expected to win Florida. He was expected to win Ohio. He was expected to win Georgia. So far he hasn’t done all those things, and even if he does he still needs to hold onto the old blue wall states that are extremely unlikely for him.
Don’t get me wrong, tonight could be a massive shock and Trump could win, but people are totally overlooking how narrow his path to victory actually is. He’s having a much better night than most of us expected, but he STILL needs everything from here on out to fall pretty much perfectly for him, and that is still very unlikely.
But hey, people are going to gnash their teeth and panic regardless, so have at it.
Biden's prospects could hinge on his performance in the so-called "blue wall" of Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, all of which were traditionally Democratic but voted for Mr. Trump in 2016. Biden can likely afford to lose Florida, North Carolina and Georgia and if he wins the blue-wall states, but vote-counting in Pennsylvania is proceeding slowly as officials sort through a mountain of absentee ballots
From cbs
From cbs
Democrats retain control of the House of Representatives
The Republicans have spent decades scaring people about the socialist democrats. It doesn't help that there is such a massive homeless problem in democrat run cities so it's easy for them to make that case. The Democrats have been horrible at messaging what they want to do and it shows every election cycle.
Kelly likely gonna win, 250k+ votes ahead, with less than 600k remaining.
I guess Collins will lose too (as will Jones), and these will be the only changes in the senate. 51-49 GOP.
I guess Collins will lose too (as will Jones), and these will be the only changes in the senate. 51-49 GOP.
Democrats projected to keep the house.
I was freaking out looking at this thread and betting odds but it doesn't look too bad for Biden compared to freak out going on.
Trump looks like he has NC as well. 45k ahead with 91% counted.
that patten has been visible in a lot of polling, at least since i looked at the crosstabs in august
More like 600k votes unless my maths is completely off.
Are you insinuating he was thread-banned? For saying he voted for Trump?
Not really. Any average white or blue collar american dont want immigrants taking their job, or more tax to help pays for the minority drug dealing thugs' healthcare. They dont want communism etc.
It's very easy to understand why they vote him. If you really listen to grass root americans you'll know their reasoj is simple. I had the chance to read a very good post on why they vote trump. It's very logical.
While Hillary talked about lgbt, iran and playing world chieftain trump talks about jobs.
One question, why is ABC news so confident that mail in vote will change it in favour for Democrats? Or is it just wishful thinking?
It's not just Americans, people all over the world turn a blind eye to his very worst characteristics (the bullying, the us vs them mentality, the tax dodging, climate change skepticism, sex scandals) I think partly because of a deeper hatred for the modern left. We're at a stage where people think a wealthy old man is somehow 'anti-establishment'. It's crazy!
Assumptions I would guess, but who knows if that still holds?
I think right now the big shock to me, regardless whatever else happens from here on out, is that turnout was indeed record but hasn't in of itself shifted too much of the preferences. Meaning Trump has turned out more people than 4 years ago.
Not exactly? Biden spent his campaign on building back the blue wall around states hillary lost. Those states have only 30% of votes in right now
Maybe the other option is worse
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