2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress

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Surprised to see Lincoln project being nice about kamala as I thought they were essentially never trumpers who want a republican (probably somebody like Ted cruz to win in 2024... presumably against kamala is biden wins in 2020)

 
Surprised to see Lincoln project being nice about kamala as I thought they were essentially never trumpers who want a republican (probably somebody like Ted cruz to win in 2024... presumably against kamala is biden wins in 2020)



lincoln project are Romney-Rubio-Jeb republicans. The ones that want to destroy the state as a functioning entity but just hate the fact trump does it with all the grace of a high-school bully. They were the ones smart enough to turn on trump so horrific conservative policy they want to implement isn't automatically associated with a fascist going forward.
 
Surprised to see Lincoln project being nice about kamala as I thought they were essentially never trumpers who want a republican (probably somebody like Ted cruz to win in 2024... presumably against kamala is biden wins in 2020)


Can’t see them being that kooky.
 
lets not forget that schmidt was the palin-picking genius. The one that got the ball rolling on this new wave of "lets celebrate dumb-asses running for office as republicans"
Point taken, but one can learn from one’s major errors to not make similar strategic mistakes going forward. Don’t see him backing a rather disqualifying candidate next time.
 
You make it sound so absurd, but yes, it's somewhat scandalous that a big political media organization steals content.

Its not in the least bit scandalous. People on social media copy from other all the time and the Lincoln Project the organization aren't running for office. At worst they will take it down and move on.
 
Surprised to see Lincoln project being nice about kamala as I thought they were essentially never trumpers who want a republican (probably somebody like Ted cruz to win in 2024... presumably against kamala is biden wins in 2020)



The Lincoln Project people have gone after anyone who's enabled Trump, which includes Cruz, Rubio, etc. Basically any Republican in Congress but Romney. They've actively campaigned against all Republican Senators and want Democrats to take the Senate. Long-term, it doesn't mean they agree with Democrats, but they recognize that there needs to be a purge/cleanse of the Republican party of those who enabled Trump.

 
Too lazy to find the tweets, but the Lincoln Project co-founder
1. tweeted about privatising the USPS in 2011
2. copied that pro-USPS ad yesterday
3. endorsed replacing the USPS with UPS and Fedex, also yesterday.
This is besides both founders' fantasies about Travyon Martin and Michael Brown.

They and their suppoters have repeatedly compared Bernie to Trump as well, and now enjoy a great deal of liberal trust and goodwill. In other words, they have won.
 
After similar trips to Nevada, Utah and Georgia, I share your uneasy feeling. Oh but universal healthcare is accepted by 78 percent amer.....shut the feck up
It's always been an America of different worlds it seems. I'd argue it's not that much different from rural and urban differences in other countries if you simply look at some of the beliefs. What Is different is the extreme hyper politicization of every viewpoint, which again simply comes down to the two party system. There is no room for nuance. At all. I. E. I've met people in other countries who are when it comes to do it - are racist as feck if--but that doesn't necessarily mean they don't believe in social welfare programs, etc. Here it's always about having making some stupid choice between A and B.

The worst thing about this Presidency is that it has gotten so much worse because whereas some local politics were somewhat clear of partisanship, even there it's become a R vs D thing now. I don't think our local city should be debating national policy constantly, or that citizens feel the need to make it about that - but here we are. I know in many other places they have parties who operate nationally or regionally and then you have local parties. I. E. We re gonna call ourselves the Save our River party bc the city wants to do something we don't like. Thats it. That's our main platform. And that should be fine. Instead - any fkin issue automatically turns into. R vs D issue. It's very very exhausting.
 
Too lazy to find the tweets, but the Lincoln Project co-founder
1. tweeted about privatising the USPS in 2011
2. copied that pro-USPS ad yesterday
3. endorsed replacing the USPS with UPS and Fedex, also yesterday.
This is besides both founders' fantasies about Travyon Martin and Michael Brown.

They and their suppoters have repeatedly compared Bernie to Trump as well, and now enjoy a great deal of liberal trust and goodwill. In other words, they have won.
Have they feck? The only reason they are popular is they are attacking the orange orangutan with some well made videos. Just stop berba
 
WTF are the primary voters doing then? 52% are crying that they wanted sommeone else while 60% actually voted for him. This is the guy you wanted!
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Why is this surprising? 52% who wanted someone else were split between multiple other candidates even if majority was with Bernie out of that.
 
Wow, wonder if that's an outlier.
Either it is or everything else is.



The CNN one had it at 5 points in May as well before going up to 14 points, so seems quite noisy.
 


undoubtedly biden has the upper hand at the moment - but its a long way out ... trumps going to at least attempt new levels of voter suppression and will probably perform better in the electoral college than the national vote share

we have a a pandemic which depending how things progress could have a real impact in how likely people are to vote

i certainly think there is a strong possibility that the race gets a lot closer between now and November.
 
Wow, wonder if that's an outlier.

When in doubt, its helpful to look at the RCP average where Biden is up by 7.5. For reference, Hillary was up by 3.2 going into election day and lost the electoral college by a collective 79,000 votes in 4 states. If Biden and Harris go into the election up by 7.5 then they should win by about 100-150 electoral votes.
 
I refuse to buy into these polls. The US' bizarre and broken electoral college system gives Trump every chance to hang on.
 
I refuse to buy into these polls. The US' bizarre and broken electoral college system gives Trump every chance to hang on.

Agreed, but he will need to close the gap considerably if he's going to repeat what happened in 2016 - or alternatively, work to cheat like hell in the process.
 
Agreed, but he will need to close the gap considerably if he's going to repeat what happened in 2016 - or alternatively, work to cheat like hell in the process.
Probably both need to happen. The gap needs to be closer so if he cheats he can sell it not only to his base (who will lap up anything either way) but also to a significant number of other voters so the result is not universally dismissed as it happened in Belarus.
 
I refuse to buy into these polls. The US' bizarre and broken electoral college system gives Trump every chance to hang on.
I agree. Ironically though the one thing that bodes well for Biden is the amount of people saying they re going to vote against Trump. It's basically the reverse of what Hillary faced.
 
I agree. Ironically though the one thing that bodes well for Biden is the amount of people saying they re going to vote against Trump. It's basically the reverse of what Hillary faced.

She faced a bit of an enthusiasm deficit last time and didn't have such a high number of people who planned on voting against Trump to make up for it, which is a plus for Biden.
 
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