2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress

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It was never going to pay off because he knew going in it wouldn't have the votes to pass - nor would Trump sign it. At best, it would end up with a few mentions on Twitter.

yes i think the left is doomed for the foreseeable future. i used that phrasing since people here seem to believe that bernie supporting biden will help get him progressive concessions.

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one more defeat, around half the caucus in the House this time, some familiar names.

 
Another very likely imminent defeat is in the Massacheusets senate primary where the writer of the Green New Deal has to make way for a Kennedy claiming his ancestral birthright.
 
out of curiosity, what are you doing your PhD in?

Molecular biology. I had looked at U Wisc but the program I wanted was insanely restrictive for foreign students, and the professor I was interested in never replied.


Europe is kinda cool, go there.

Actually, recently decided that I am doing that too. Germany is it. I don’t necessarily think that US is so bad as you and other extreme lefties, but Europe is much better for my taste. Saying that, I ain’t excluding coming back here in the future.

Trump is gonna be awful for both students and high-skilled workers who come here. Suspending H1-B program was pure suicide (not for him, but for the US) while the conditions for J1 visas were pure evil (thankfully revoked for now). Considering that these things might/will affect you (and I assume most of your friends, considering that most graduate students are foreigners) I find it weird how you leave the perception that Trump and Biden are essentially the same.

Europe is the plan, no idea what it's going to be like with corona.
Never said the last line; they are bad in different ways, and represent different bad interests.
 
Molecular biology. I had looked at U Wisc but the program I wanted was insanely restrictive for foreign students, and the professor I was interested in never replied.

Most of my colleagues went to UW.

The wife and I both did ours in Microbiology, so welcome to the biological sciences family!
 
There's probably no better symbol of the state of the world than the US war-crime budget. Tells you all you need to know about what the leader of the free world prioritises.
Tbf, it is about 15% of the federal budget, so its not like it makes #1 priority even there. Its just that it could be cut to half or less and all would still be fine.
 
Tbf, it is about 15% of the federal budget, so its not like it makes #1 priority even there. Its just that it could be cut to half or less and all would still be fine.

Now that we are back in the great power competition business (this time with China), the inclination will be to invest more. China can use its nationalized industrial base, which the US doesn’t have, so investments (particularly in technology) will continue to rise.
 
Molecular biology. I had looked at U Wisc but the program I wanted was insanely restrictive for foreign students, and the professor I was interested in never replied.

Europe is the plan, no idea what it's going to be like with corona.
Never said the last line; they are bad in different ways, and represent different bad interests.
I have an appointment at the German consulate this week for a postdoc visa, so it seems that while there are some extra things that need to be done, Germany is still allowing foreign researchers inside. I believe it should be similar to most European countries.
 
I have an appointment at the German consulate this week for a postdoc visa, so it seems that while there are some extra things that need to be done, Germany is still allowing foreign researchers inside. I believe it should be similar to most European countries.
Germany is pretty far out of the lockdown. Lots of things are largely back to normal in the EU, including travel. Your main limitation for now, may be that the US hasn't yet made it on the list of countries that can travel to the EU again. But I suppose you could go there for the purpose of a permanent move; you might just have to self-isolate for two weeks first.
 

:lol:

Biden rules so much. One of the few positives that a incoming Biden presidency would have is watching liberals trying to sell basically race essentialism(Wrapped up in progressive language)while also defending this cnut.

It's going to fry their brains.
 
Dems Voting Against Pentagon Cuts Got 3.4x More Money From the Defense Industry

Yesterday, the House of Representatives rejected an amendment from Progressive Caucus Co-Chair Rep. Mark Pocan (D-Wis.) to cut the Pentagon’s budget by 10 percent on a vote of 324-93. While Republicans voted in lockstep against the amendment, the Democrats were split, with 92 voting for the amendment and 139 voting against it.

At $740.5 billion, the military budget authorization that was passed by the House after the amendment was rejected will almost certainly be more than half of all 2021 discretionary federal spending and will dwarf amounts spent on functions like healthcare, housing, and education. If the House level is adopted after the Senate passes its version and any differences are resolved, 2021 will be the sixth year in a row that the Pentagon’s budget will be increased by Congress.

The amendment would have applied a 10% reduction to all Pentagon accounts and funds besides those authorized for the Defense Health program, military personnel, and individuals appointed to the civil services.

The Democrats who voted against reducing the Defense budget do not make up an obvious grouping. They span the ideological spectrum of House Democrats and include freshman members as well as leadership members who have been in office for decades. But by reviewing campaign contributions, a pattern emerges: Democrats who voted against the amendment tend to have received far more campaign funding from defense industry interests.

On average, the Democrats who voted against the amendment have received $29,731 in contributions from the defense industry since January 2019, while Democrats voting for the amendment have received, on average, $8,800 from the industry during that period, according to a Sludge analysis of data from the Center for Responsive Politics.

The contributions factored in this analysis came from PACs and employees of contractors like Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, and BAE Systems that receive tens of billions worth of contracts from the Defense Department each year. The analysis does not count contributions to leadership PACs, joint fundraising committees, or party groups, nor does it include contributions from defense lobbyists at outside firms or contributions to independent political spending groups.


Of the top 50 recipients of 2019-20 defense industry funds among House Democrats, only eight voted for the Pocan amendment. The top 17 recipients all voted against it.

“There’s no doubt that the massively wealthy and influential defense—or, more accurately, warmaking—industry holds considerable sway over Congress,” said Michael Galant, senior communications associate at Win Without War. “Many in Congress fail to hold the military-industrial complex accountable because they have weapons manufacturers or military bases in their districts. Despite the fact that study after study have shown that the same amount of taxpayer dollars can create more jobs in education or green infrastructure than in defense contracting, they have been made to think that a vote to cut the Pentagon budget is a vote against constituent jobs.”

In a May letter to the leaders of the Armed Services Committee, Pocan and members of the Progressive Caucus called for defense cuts in light of the coronavirus pandemic.

“Year after year, we see taxpayer dollars line the pocket of defense contractors instead of supporting the American public,” Pocan said. “The enemy we’re fighting right now is COVID-19, so our sole focus should be on expanding testing, tracing and treatment, funding towards vaccine development, and relief for the American people. Increasing defense spending now would be a slap in the face to the families of over 90,000 Americans that have died from this virus.”

While the Pocan amendment did not pass, longtime Pentagon watcher William Hartung, director of the Arms and Security Project at the Center for International Policy, described it as the first time in years that significant cuts to defense spending received a vote in Congress. After retaking the House in the 2018 midterms, House Democrats’ April 2019 proposal was to increase military spending by 2.6%, and since the beginning of the Trump administration defense spending is up almost 20%.


“Adjusted for inflation, the $740 billion proposal is well over $100 billion more than expenditures at the high point of the Reagan buildup of the 1980s,” Hartung wrote in February. But even this lofty share—taking up 53% of the federal discretionary budget—falls short of capturing the real extent of military spending. Counting all ten major sources of defense spending, Hartung found last year in a report co-authored with Mandy Smithberger, the director of the Straus Military Reform Project at the Project On Government Oversight (POGO), the “final annual tally for war, preparations for war, and the impact of war comes to more than $1.25 trillion, more than double the Pentagon’s base budget.”

The Senate version of the amendment, sponsored by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), would divert defense dollars to a federal grant program to fund health care, housing, childcare and education for cities experiencing a poverty rate of 25% or more. A Data for Progress poll conducted last week found that 56% of likely voters support cutting the military budget by 10% to pay for priorities like the coronavirus response, healthcare, and poverty reduction. The poll’s majority includes half of Republicans, though as researcher Ashik Siddique with the National Priorities Project points out, no congressional Republicans cast a vote in favor of re-allocating and reinvesting Pentagon funding in more economically-productive sectors like education.

Current U.S. Secretary of Defense Mark Esper is a former lobbyist at Raytheon, which over the past two election cycles spent $6.4 million on campaign contributions and $20 million on federal lobbying.
 
Most of my colleagues went to UW.

The wife and I both did ours in Microbiology, so welcome to the biological sciences family!

ya i saw a few posts in the covid thread and guessed as much. are you still in bio?
 
I take it people are expecting an election in November. Do they think it will me done by mail vote or do they think people will vote in person, in America, in November?
 
I take it people are expecting an election in November. Do they think it will me done by mail vote or do they think people will vote in person, in America, in November?
There will be a higher percentage of mail-in votes and much ado about somesuch-things, but otherwise it will go as scheduled. It will certainly be ugly as all hell as it plays out, of course.
 
progress!

Like Joe Biden’s updated climate plan and the Biden-Sanders task force climate recommendations to the DNC, the draft shows how far climate advocates have pushed the party in just four years in terms of scope and ambition. Whereas DNC’s 2012 platform included just a half a page on climate policy and the 2016 platform grew a bit to three pages, the 2020 draft devotes four pages to climate policy proposals, including some notable bright spots.


Or not


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And yet, the document still falls far short of the recommendations of leading climate scientists because it doesn’t have a plan to phase out U.S. fossil fuel production or use. Unlike the 2016 platform, the new draft is silent on phasing out extraction of fossil fuels from on public lands and doesn’t include language to halt fracking in localities that oppose it. That represents a step backward for the climate, though perhaps this is an attempt to appeal to moderates and win voters fracking states like Pennsylvania, but polling shows most Democrats favor a fracking ban.


https://earther.gizmodo.com/leaked-dnc-platform-draft-shows-the-party-is-improving-1844472449
 
It's quite clear that the Trump campaign is now in full force, and that the message that they believe 'works' against Biden is that his Presidency will lead to big, scary, minority mobs. They even have video and photos (okay one from Ukraine but fact checking is for libtards!) of these violent criminals, stalking our streets!

I just don't see it as a viable strategy.

First of all, it only takes the slightest (maybe too much credit being given) bit of thought to say: wait, that's happening right now. With Trump as President.
Secondly, Trump tries to paint Biden is the boring, establishment, get nothing done for 40 years candidate. But he's suddenly going to demolish society?
Thirdly, I don't think even Trump supporters like the idea of the f*cking Gestapo that he's employing, that feels almost diametrically opposite to the freedom folks that want their guns and casual racism.

But it is clearly the strategy. Almost nothing on Fox news site about Corona, all scary images of decaying society. Under Trump of course, but it's future Biden's fault?
 
progress!

Or not
That actually feels like a great example of what we've been talking about on there. If you're a climate advisor for Biden, and you believe just two things:
1. That an overall climate plan is important, and better than whatever blow up the Earth bullsh*t is going to come out of the WH
2. That Biden needs towns that rely on fracking in PA to get into power

Then this is the logical outcome. Of course we should want to get rid of fracking, yesterday, but if keeping it out of a plan so that you can get into power and implement a raft of other policies taking us in the right direction than it's still a good thing.

Of course, for the true climate purists, this just shows the duplicitous, non-progressive agenda of Biden et al, and therefore we should just throw the whole plan away.
 
That actually feels like a great example of what we've been talking about on there. If you're a climate advisor for Biden, and you believe just two things:
1. That an overall climate plan is important, and better than whatever blow up the Earth bullsh*t is going to come out of the WH
2. That Biden needs towns that rely on fracking in PA to get into power

Then this is the logical outcome. Of course we should want to get rid of fracking, yesterday, but if keeping it out of a plan so that you can get into power and implement a raft of other policies taking us in the right direction than it's still a good thing.
Lying to the electorate is actual a good thing!

Of course, for the true climate purists, this just shows the duplicitous, non-progressive agenda of Biden et al, and therefore we should just throw the whole plan away.
Those dam scientists!



The brain rot has truly kicked in.
 
That actually feels like a great example of what we've been talking about on there. If you're a climate advisor for Biden, and you believe just two things:
1. That an overall climate plan is important, and better than whatever blow up the Earth bullsh*t is going to come out of the WH
2. That Biden needs towns that rely on fracking in PA to get into power

Then this is the logical outcome. Of course we should want to get rid of fracking, yesterday, but if keeping it out of a plan so that you can get into power and implement a raft of other policies taking us in the right direction than it's still a good thing.

Of course, for the true climate purists, this just shows the duplicitous, non-progressive agenda of Biden et al, and therefore we should just throw the whole plan away.

From what I've read his plan has been pretty well received.
 
It's quite clear that the Trump campaign is now in full force, and that the message that they believe 'works' against Biden is that his Presidency will lead to big, scary, minority mobs. They even have video and photos (okay one from Ukraine but fact checking is for libtards!) of these violent criminals, stalking our streets!

I just don't see it as a viable strategy.


First of all, it only takes the slightest (maybe too much credit being given) bit of thought to say: wait, that's happening right now. With Trump as President.
Secondly, Trump tries to paint Biden is the boring, establishment, get nothing done for 40 years candidate. But he's suddenly going to demolish society?
Thirdly, I don't think even Trump supporters like the idea of the f*cking Gestapo that he's employing, that feels almost diametrically opposite to the freedom folks that want their guns and casual racism.

But it is clearly the strategy. Almost nothing on Fox news site about Corona, all scary images of decaying society. Under Trump of course, but it's future Biden's fault?

You don't spend eight years abusing Obama as an illegitimate, marxist, anti-American secret Muslim, secret homosexual only to now say actually his older white vice president is the real threat to western society.
 
It's quite clear that the Trump campaign is now in full force, and that the message that they believe 'works' against Biden is that his Presidency will lead to big, scary, minority mobs. They even have video and photos (okay one from Ukraine but fact checking is for libtards!) of these violent criminals, stalking our streets!

I just don't see it as a viable strategy.

First of all, it only takes the slightest (maybe too much credit being given) bit of thought to say: wait, that's happening right now. With Trump as President.
Secondly, Trump tries to paint Biden is the boring, establishment, get nothing done for 40 years candidate. But he's suddenly going to demolish society?
Thirdly, I don't think even Trump supporters like the idea of the f*cking Gestapo that he's employing, that feels almost diametrically opposite to the freedom folks that want their guns and casual racism.

But it is clearly the strategy. Almost nothing on Fox news site about Corona, all scary images of decaying society. Under Trump of course, but it's future Biden's fault?
This is one reason you don’t run with ‘defunding the police’ as part of your campaign agenda.
 
No. But you explain to the public what defund the police really means.

Reallocating funds away from police departments would effectively be tantamount to abolishing police, which is quite correctly, something Dems are wise to not be seen as embracing.
 
On a serious note its probably the most progressive climate plan serious contender in a presidential election has ever stood on in the USA and i that context (especially given his opponent) thats got to be a good thing right
But it's the year 2020 this should be expected, it isn't a cause for celebration tbh. Also rising sea levels don't give a shit that Biden plan is vastly better than Trumps.

The fact is the democrats policy fails in a number of huge ways(There also nothing in there that really holds Biden accountable)and simply isn't up to the task of fighting against climate change( Which is the most important thing)
 
I think that people on the left think Biden is too right-wing and people on the right think Biden is too left-wing is an indicator of why as things stand he's likely to win big. There's a whole chunk of people in the middle, who may tilt slightly one way or the other, who will vote for him. And perhaps more significantly why this notion of a culture war being played out is overplayed. Those people don't get recognised much in our sensationalised "left vs right" paradigm because I guess you get drowned out in our media and online echo chambers.
 
I think that people on the left think Biden is too right-wing and people on the right think Biden is too left-wing is an indicator of why as things stand he's likely to win big. There's a whole chunk of people in the middle, who may tilt slightly one way or the other, who will vote for him. And perhaps more significantly why this notion of a culture war being played out is overplayed. Those people don't get recognised much in our sensationalised "left vs right" paradigm because I guess you get drowned out in our media and online echo chambers.

Agreed. The fact that Sanders lost and Trump appears to be losing suggests that most people in this country are gravitating back towards the middle and the possibility of some degree of bipartisanship.
 
This is one reason you don’t run with ‘defunding the police’ as part of your campaign agenda.
Which he literally didn't, never said and only Trump and the WH is pushing that he did. Watch the Chris Wallace interview, and subsequent 'the WH failed to produce any evidence Biden is saying defund the police'.
 
Reallocating funds away from police departments would effectively be tantamount to abolishing police, which is quite correctly, something Dems are wise to not be seen as embracing.

Not unless the amount you were reallocating was 100%. Services get budgets cut and reallocated all the time, and until now people didn't feel any need to start talking about that equalling abolition. Probably because that's dumb.
 
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