Stop Denying Joe Biden's Dementia
2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress
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People are fecking weird
I've seen clips of Biden mumbling, struggling to form sentences, getting basic things confused.
But these are from Republican sources. Anything can be taken out of context.
So I'm curious to know, from the perspective of actual democrats, is this legit? Is he seriously 'not all there' mentally? Is dementia a ridiculous, inaccurate slander or is this potentially real?
Personally, I'm so disappointed that it isn't going to be Bernie, no matter what the answer to the above question is.
But these are from Republican sources. Anything can be taken out of context.
So I'm curious to know, from the perspective of actual democrats, is this legit? Is he seriously 'not all there' mentally? Is dementia a ridiculous, inaccurate slander or is this potentially real?
Personally, I'm so disappointed that it isn't going to be Bernie, no matter what the answer to the above question is.
It’s a last gasp attempt by various Sanders hacks on social media to derail Biden’s momentum before the next round of states vote tomorrow. They know it’s probably lights out for their candidate tomorrow night if Biden does well. Sanders and Trump hacks are both singing off the same sheet of music on this one.
Hacks...he is demented. Sanders won't go to personal attacks but it's an obvious elephant in the living room.
This is true.
Trump certainly gave no regard for potential Democrat attacks on his running mates when he went for Cruz, Rubio and the gang (although doing so as the favourite is different than doing do as a clear number two).
Either way I'm not sure Bernie ever had a real chance.
He has a terrible stutter.
Bloomberg and Warren in the same team is peak liberal death spiral.
World bank is not part of the administration though.
Yep this could be very well true. Bernie was running as a ''democratic'' socialist and calling for a ''political revolution'' in what at best could be described as a liberal party, during a time where most americans(According to the last poll I looked at)have confidence in the economy. He need big youth turnouts and never got it.
Basically is, right ? If Biden become president and push hard enough(It wouldn't take that much work) Bloomerberg would get the job. The current guy is this person
Or am I missing something ?
World bank is an international organisation that always has US citizen in charge who is nominated by the POTUS. But it's not part of the cabinet .
So basically I was right. Cheers.
Biden has double digit leads in all states, and Warren hasn't endorsed over the weekend. (Harris and Boker endorse Biden).
I hope Bernie concede quickly because this is actually people's money, and many of the people who have given to him are short of cash and have situations that will not iprove if Biden gets in.
I hope Bernie concede quickly because this is actually people's money, and many of the people who have given to him are short of cash and have situations that will not iprove if Biden gets in.
press have questioned his cognitive decline for a while now. Dems have been questioning trump’s mental ability for 4 years now. Posters here have done it time and again. So it isn’t something new. Personally, I won’t be voting for him. It has lot to do with the crime bill and also because he actually has feck all to offer in terms of policy.
why ?
anything warren does in that place will be used to define the left going forward.
if the virus does cause a reccession, biden will win, and the recovery will be in his hands. it's important to either not feck this up (he will), or not be involved with it whatsoever.
Bernie's cabinet picks would likely be similar. Cabinet picks and department heads are based on having relevant experience and vetted for him. Trump making his choices based on loyalty to him first and foremost is an anomaly.
Do you still people will think of her as part of the left after this primary ? I've seen some of her biggest supporters feel massively let down by recent events. Whats looking like a non endorsement for Bernie,(Plus the backing tracking on healthcare and Super PAC's) I think it's killed her ''progressive'' career.
I absolutely don't, but most others still do.
My daughter came up to me today and told me she had a feeling Warren will endorse Sanders. I told her she has not but I trusted her insight. She then told me not to worry because it will amount to nothing. Then I got the news...
You were making out that people have only started to focus on Biden's health after he started winning. I was pointing out that its just not true.
Below are clips from September last year where these issues were being discussed.
By the sound of this it seems like you'll be leaving the US?
They were most than happy to dabble in this stuff when he was an opponent and are now fine with endorsing him. Just goes to show that it’s all a political game.
Warren’s entire political philosophy is encapsulated by this quote, ‘you are either on the inside or outside, you get to feel good about yourself on the outside, but real change comes from the inside’.
She never had the slightest interest in a revolution of any kind, she’s an institutionalist, so actions like cozying up to the moderates when she was in the lead or accepting super PAC help when in troubles are all extensions of that dogma. So it makes no sense for her to endorse Sanders and ceding her insider influence at this point.
Anyway what really killed any chance Sanders once had is the erosion among rural old white voters in his base. I assumed before ST that he still does well with them but it ended up going to Biden instead. There’s something like a 20 points swing in that group from 2016 to 2020 which leads to stuffs like Biden winning Mass, Maine and running strong in VT. How much of that is from Buttchug/Klobuchar consolidation? Hard to know, but disappointing nonetheless with youth turnout still mediocre at best.
She never had the slightest interest in a revolution of any kind, she’s an institutionalist, so actions like cozying up to the moderates when she was in the lead or accepting super PAC help when in troubles are all extensions of that dogma. So it makes no sense for her to endorse Sanders and ceding her insider influence at this point.
Anyway what really killed any chance Sanders once had is the erosion among rural old white voters in his base. I assumed before ST that he still does well with them but it ended up going to Biden instead. There’s something like a 20 points swing in that group from 2016 to 2020 which leads to stuffs like Biden winning Mass, Maine and running strong in VT. How much of that is from Buttchug/Klobuchar consolidation? Hard to know, but disappointing nonetheless with youth turnout still mediocre at best.
How many debates have there been since? I recall many criticisms of the content of Biden's answers from people who disagree with him, but only now this hysteria about dementia. This is a guy who always talks about "how i did this" or "i'm the one who got done" in relation to some bill from 1986 or foreign policy subject. Or when asked how he will solve something he reels off a list of ideas in 30 seconds without expanding on a particular one ("number 1 ..., number 2 ..., number 3 ...., number 4 ....")
I recall news pundits saying Biden did well in some debates while someone like Buttigieg who if oratory determined a candidate would be the best of the bunch, withered.
How many town halls have there been? Longer format for candidates to talk and engage with an audience.
The point is if he had dementia then it would have been clearly visible to the audience at home, members of the press covering and people who see him up front in person. Has he lost a step? Absolutely. Which is why I believe he will lose to Trump and stated so a couple of pages ago. Four years ago I think he'd have won easily. But what does it say about Bernie that a) he's losing again and b) the metric of higher turnout is working for Biden and c) he's had four years to work on the faults of 2016.
If I'm anti-Biden I'd rather make the point that he's been in government for fifty years and now wants to fix things. That if he's the nominee a part of the election will be conducted by Republicans senators who will subpoena his son. That his own plans ($750 billion public option for example) will hike up taxes on the middle class so you might as well go fully on board Medicare for all. That he would be a lousy president trying to play nice with the republicans who have been shitting on his son and will lead to President Nicki Haley in 2024.
Maybe the moderates spending the last 4 years blaming him for Hillary losing in 2016 and painting him as an existential threat to everything decent in the world actually paid off for them.
These are anti-Clinton, anti establishment, non-CNN/MSNBC watching voters. Older blacks loved the Clintons, older whites hate them. And that’s why it’s so perplexing.
Now he’s underwater in the Midwest states he won precisely due to those voters. If he loses MI tomorrow may as well pack it up.
Yes
but I will edit the post when I actually get news about Warren's endorsement.It will be hilarious if she does a Mike Pence like endorsement in the 2016 Republican primary.
If you think jaime dimon is anywhere near bernies list you are truly beyond help
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