2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress
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So, Iowa is giving 2 extra delegates to Pete for a lead of just 2 SDEs. Isn't delegates supposed to be proportional to the SDEs whereas number of SDEs based on the precincts? And this without correcting all the errors.
So, Iowa is giving 2 extra delegates to Pete for a lead of just 2 SDEs. Isn't delegates supposed to be proportional to the SDEs whereas number of SDEs based on the precincts? And this without correcting all the errors.
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Yes, that’s the ‘blood coming out of her wherever’ episode. Ailes pretended to have principles and fame groveling back a week later because ratings were dropping. Neither O Reilly nor Hannity at that point defended Kelly.
Yeah, Trump faced Fox down and won. Not "Fox, especially on their opinion side were on his side from day 1, the lone dissenting voice (Megyn Kelly)".
Amy's stapler aimed at Pete.
Yeah, no. Just because he fought briefly with them to decide who wears the pants in the relationship doesn’t mean they weren’t in his corner from the beginning.
Fact of the matter is the level of access he enjoyed since the moment he slid down that escalator was unprecedented, he’d call into their flagship programs as he pleased (and it wasn’t just Fox btw, Morning Joe was also his bitch the first 6 months since announcement) daily, had long sit down interviews, his rallies were on loop. He was their darling since the birther episode, and the access became a point of contention with other GOP candidates leading into that debate, when Ailes decided to have his protégée act with a tiny bit of spine and it ended up blowing up in his face. Fox hated him so much the next day he called into O’Reilly to have a good long whine about how unfairly he was treated and Old Bill didn’t dare say shit to him.
Yes. Because he was the big story that drew ratings but the front runner for the Republican nomination has never been criticised by Fox News as much as Trump was.
Criticised by who? Chris Wallace?’ Shepard Smith?Those news guys barely even registered on the radar of the core Fox News viewers demographic. They are the make up paint to hide their true business, the opinion shows, and the opinion shows loved him.
I really don’t know why this is even worth debating. If your point is Bernie Sanders can expect the same treatment from MSNBC once/if he becomes the nominee then I’m happy to put money where my mouth is, he won’t. If you think Trump was ‘an unelectable ideologue’ in the eye of the then electorate then that’s wrong at least according to exit poll data showing the swing voters perceiving him to be more moderate than Clinton(!). The excessive coverage he received from all big networks normalized him.
I believe my point was that "Trump was seen as a completely unelectable extremist and his party desperately tried to stop him."
A comparison to Sanders.
I think it's hard to argue that opposition from the seniority of the party whose ticket you're running for and the media painting you as unelectable will stop someone becoming President, because they didn't stop Trump.
Biden connecting with the electorate.
The way things are going I'm starting to worry he won't be around long enough for the moment this literally happens.
Yes, and my counterpoint basically is that he was seen as that by the pundit class, by losers like you and me who waste our time debating about in on a football forum, read articles, follow election data analysts, so on and so forth. He wasn’t seen as that by the apolitical or apathetic average Joe who tuned in fleetingly. His nativist, racist, isolationist platform, it turned out, is quite popular with Americans, and coverage drove that idea. When he was criticised most heavily, it was almost uniformly about his character, his vulgarity, not his policies.
Look at our resident Yanks here, I bet you the Eboues and the Red Dreams (s) are a tiny minority, and the shamans(s) who are always ‘lift yourself up by the bootstrap’ are more numerous than we’d like to be.
Yeah. The people saying Sanders is unelectable. It's not ordinary voters saying this shit. It's politics freaks.
All three of those posters are unique in their own ways and I wouldn't dream of suggesting otherwise and yes, in as much as there is an average American they wouldn't be posting on Redcafe.
We are but losers with opinions, as you say, but I think social democracy is an easier sell than The American Dream right now.
EDIT - There's a reason MAGA was far more convincing than 'America is already great' and I certainly don't fancy the Dem's chances if they run on 'make America how it was four years ago'.
I also think Keep America Great is extremely ineffective but God knows Americans love to vote for the President.
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Well, on that particular matter, I don’t think so, or to be exact, no longer think so.
But on the social democracy thing, my opinion basically is that the American electorate is populated by a lot of selfish, vindictive cnuts who prefers marginal tax cuts and expensive health insurance over single payer and slightly higher taxes, since that is ‘paying for moochers’. So it remains a harder sell than ‘MAGA’, so to speak.
If you think that democracy is strengthened by calling for violence against political opponents, you’re as ignorant and illiberal as Trump himself. Delete your account and read some civics. Stop embarrassing yourself. Look at the response to a very traditional view that in America, we do not call for violence against political opponents. And then understand that you reap what you sow.
Did you watch Bannon on Bill Maher? Strangely was sympathetic toward Bernie (does that means he doesn't rate his chances in the general v D.T?), and said that he's a populist and such is being treated poorly by the establishment. Maher was like "I don't like socialism, I like capitalism plus" or some nonsense like that. The liberal media are so far removed from the struggles of the common folk, they might as well speak for the GOP.
nyt is opening up an op-ed slot for this insight
That's true, Trump was a frequent guest of Hannity even before announcing he was going to run. Check out this clip for example, there's a few more
https://video.foxnews.com/v/3864034789001#sp=show-clips
Honest question here: are there any online betting sites that are willing to create a market for either
1. Biden threatening a democatic voter to a physical beating after he mishears a question
or
2. Just punches a democatic voter when he comes 5th in NH?
It seems that's not the first time he has used this phrase. Doesn't make it less cringy though...
So I have been observing a weird trend. In Germany a lot of media outlets start to report about Sanders as if he is simply a leftist version of Trump and they are pretty much two sides of the same coin. Is this happening in other countries as well? This is kind of a weird shift considering that when he was running as the democratic candidate 4 years ago the reports in the German media were mostly positive.
Fortunately it wont matter how the rest of the world is reporting on him.
The platform is more radical than the one four years ago but I imagine the main shift is that he might win this time.
Bannon has always had a soft spot for the likes of Sanders and Gabbard since there is a degree of overlap between his protectionist economic nationalism policy preferences and the Sanders protectionist views on free trade agreements. This is also probably why Sanders could reclaim a good number of Obama voters who gave Trump a shot in 16.
Regardless of endgames I think the anti-establishment in Bannon would probably like to see the chaos and panic a Sanders Presidency would instil in both GOP and Dem establishment figures.
It possibly can't get more chaotic and panicky than current. Also Bernie would face the same hurdles as Trump in pushing radical ideal through congress.
If Sanders gets in and the GOP hold the Senate, then he will achieve absolutely nothing.
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