2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress

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It would also help the cause if the Dem establishment would quit with the coordinated hit pieces on Bernie that have nothing to do with voting records or policy. Don’t play the dirty smearing game and then feel entitled to our votes while preaching this narrative of unity. I mean, that is if you want to beat Trump at all costs that is.
 
It would also help the cause if the Dem establishment would quit with the coordinated hit pieces on Bernie that have nothing to do with voting records or policy. Don’t play the dirty smearing game and then feel entitled to our votes while preaching this narrative of unity. I mean, that is if you want to beat Trump at all costs that is.

still have not figured it out?

The hit pieces are done because Bernie is a threat to their corporate candidates.
 
How would you know what I have given.

stop with your garbage posts.
I’m sticking to what I said based on the average total contributions and you don’t strike me as someone with loads of disposable income to donate. That’s beside the point though. You called me a centrist despite my obvious support for Sanders and it’s on you to prove your assertion. Or you could just admit you were wrong about that.
I've given way more.
I could believe this.
 
I’m sticking to what I said based on the average total contributions and you don’t strike me as someone with loads of disposable income to donate. That’s beside the point though. You called me a centrist despite my obvious support for Sanders and it’s on you to prove your assertion. Or you could just admit you were wrong about that.

You know feck all about me.
..and frankly I don't care.

You have proven yourself to be a centrist by your posts.
 
I could believe this.
I've got ways and means.

For instance I have ways of interrupting you and RD having what could quite possibly be the most pointless conversation in this very long thread and I potentially have the means to stop it.

How would you know what I have given.

stop with your garbage posts.
Is Bernie the only politician you've ever donated to?
 
Ashamed to say I gave quite a bit to Obama and.....Warren's Senate run. :(
I mean, I don't think there's any McCain stans here ready to trash you and I don't know the details of Warrens senate election but I would imagine she was the best choice, so I think you're good.

Political donations are probably the least effective social investment, so you are all suckers.
Not that this isn't a fair point.
 
I mean, I don't think there's any McCain stans here ready to trash you and I don't know the details of Warrens senate election but I would imagine she was the best choice, so I think you're good.

McCain. I always respected the man's war record. But he acted against the interests of vets.
I thought Warren was genuine when she ran....like Obama.

Once you make the deals with the corporations....
 
Go ahead and list the positive changes that resulted from the top-down without bottom up movements. I dare you
The Internet evolving from Arpanet
NASA/space exploration/satellite communications
French cuisine everywhere
The UN and associated international system

(One of these is not serious)
 
The Internet evolving from Arpanet
NASA/space exploration/satellite communications
The UN and associated international system
French cuisine everywhere

I (guess) you're being facetious, but the difference is none of them directly/openly challenged established power in the way M4A will. (UN was made by the victorious factions in a world war)
 
McCain. I always respected the man's war record. But he acted against the interests of vets.
I thought Warren was genuine when she ran....like Obama.

Once you make the deals with the corporations....
There's still some of that 'why can't we be friends' liberal within you!
 
I (guess) you're being facetious, but the difference is none of them directly/openly challenged established power in the way M4A will. (UN was made by the victorious factions in a world war)
No, but that wasn't the question as I understood it. It was if anything good had come from government that wasn't the result of social pressure. The things I listed were all incubated in government and didn't have mass social pressure to go ahead, the Internet probably being the most impactful (and I love me some fancy French food, like the good bourgeois I am)
 
Incredible how Bernie’s fanboys on here have glossed over his role in establishing the state of Israel in 1948:

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You know feck all about me.
..and frankly I don't care.

You have proven yourself to be a centrist by your posts.
Of course I don't know you but I know I donated more than you. And if you think I'm a centrist, then prove it. Go quote one of my posts. I'm intrigued.
btw FM...you were gagging for Yang's 12,000 per year were you not?
I don't have a gag reflex so I guess I wasn't. I couldn't even gag at a whole pickle down my throat!
 
I've got ways and means.

For instance I have ways of interrupting you and RD having what could quite possibly be the most pointless conversation in this very long thread and I potentially have the means to stop it.
But RD posts are already pointless conversation. This equation doesn't need me to ascertain that.
I read them with great anticipation
:lol:
 
Incredible how Bernie’s fanboys on here have glossed over his role in establishing the state of Israel in 1948:

EObR1CeXsAA5Hw9

partisangirl vs wasbappin would last longer than the syrian civil war (both agree on bernie though)
 
But RD posts are already pointless conversation. This equation doesn't need me to ascertain that.
Me and RD are currently having an enlightening chat about political donations and evolution of views and its limits, so you should check yourself.
 
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