senorgregster
Last Newbie Standing
She'll be the perfect excuse for Republicans to defend their decision to vote Trump again. Please note, they'll find an excuse either way.
His voters don't matter if Democrats vote the Democrat nominee, and the majority of Independents go for the Democrat nominee (which I believe they will go for if Warren is the nominee). Clinton was disliked from more than half of the people who are eligible to vote, and a lot of Democrats weren't excited about her.Don’t think you’re wrong about her schooling trump in a debate but trump was made a holy show of in the 2016 debates with Clinton and he still got elected. He was constantly saying shit that was just flat out incorrect. His voters don’t care (whether they think he’s a cnut or not), they’re going to vote for him because MAGA or because of their bank account. So how much does that really mean? Besides... Is anyone watching the second or third debate still deciding who to vote for? ( genuine question, numbers would be interesting)
I doubt he’d go into hiding too, he’d just constantly call her Pocahontas on twitter and Fox News would tell half the country how much of a slam dunk that was, and they’d lap it up.
I agree with this which is why Hillary Clinton is always the wrong option. I just don’t agree with the narrower point that the presidential debates are that significant. Anyway Trump is wrong so often I think there’s almost a law of diminishing returns on the effectiveness of pointing out how wrong he is-I have nothing to back this up by the wayHis voters doesn't matter if Democrats won the Democrat nominee, and the majority of Independents go for the Democrat nominee (which I believe they will go for if Warren is the nominee). Clinton was disliked from more than half of the people who are eligible to vote, and a lot of Democrats weren't excited about her.
His voters don't matter if Democrats vote the Democrat nominee, and the majority of Independents go for the Democrat nominee (which I believe they will go for if Warren is the nominee). Clinton was disliked from more than half of the people who are eligible to vote, and a lot of Democrats weren't excited about her.
I've heard this a few times, but why being intellectual is bad and it is seemed as a disadvantage?America is still sexist as feck though, and Warren can sound quite intellectual at times. Whether she’ll resonate with the whole country is still up for debate.
I've heard this a few times, but why being intellectual is bad and it is seemed as a disadvantage?
It's kind of weird why being smart and a professor at one of top universities is a disadvantage. Something you would expect from Soviet Union or China after the cultural revolution when it was cool to be a peasant, but not an intellectual.Why do American pundits keep asking ‘which candidate would you prefer to go for a beer with’? There’s a reason for that.
Because bulk of voters don't know / don't care. They might vote for a simplistic solution (that won't solve anything) rather than a proper one which might make their life better. Religion, Race and other beliefs (guns, environment) do not accommodate for intellectual discussions.I've heard this a few times, but why being intellectual is bad and it is seemed as a disadvantage?
It's kind of weird why being smart and a professor at one of top universities is a disadvantage. Something you would expect from Soviet Union or China after the cultural revolution when it was cool to be a peasant, but not an intellectual.
It's kind of weird why being smart and a professor at one of top universities is a disadvantage. Something you would expect from Soviet Union or China after the cultural revolution when it was cool to be a peasant, but not an intellectual.
So many Americans have an inferiority complex and will interpret intellectual vibes as elitist.I've heard this a few times, but why being intellectual is bad and it is seemed as a disadvantage?
I've heard this a few times, but why being intellectual is bad and it is seemed as a disadvantage?
buttchug was asked a specific question by a climate professional who recently lost her home to a wildfire about 1) what his plan is and 2) how he is going to accomplish it and he spent 4 minutes of just talking about nothing before closing with "we all need to come together to fight this"
the guy is an empty suit
This thread just convinces me Trump will get reelected. All conservatives will vote for Trump while all liberals are busy throwing mud at each other for not agreeing on exactly 100% of everything.
also, I'm quite convinced Bernie Sanders is Johnny Knoxville in old man make up.
That’s precisely what Trump is banking on - Dems who are so dogmatically uncompromising that they stay home if the opposing faction win the nomination.
Joe Biden's Entire Platform: Nothing will fundamentally change for people (especially the rich people he made that comment to), the GOP will compromise with me because trump has gone, just swallow your policy positions and vote for me.
What position exactly would progressive compromise to? Accepting that Biden will screw over democrats in congress (like he did to Harry Reid), so he can win over GOP votes?
You won’t see substantial change from any one of them since they don’t have the votes in congress to move any substantial policies. The closest thing to change anyone can realistically hope for is a reentering of the Paris climate deal, reentering the Iran deal, stabilizing relationships with allies to where they were under Obama, some form of fix to Obamacare to where premiums go down etc. These are things that would happen irrespective of which of them get in since even Sanders and Warren would be blocked from Medicare for all and would be reduced to groveling for small incremental Obamacare fixes.
and the counter to that...is Joe Biden would START from a position of groveling for small changes to the ACA and then compromise on that position, leaving the ACA no different and achieving nothing more than before biden. So what would progressives compromising achieve? The compromise to elect a lame duck?
If Bernie, Warren, Biden can get Paris, Iran Deal, stabilising relationships, the only thing left is healthcare (in this example) and the positions are: fight for medicare (Bernie / Warren), make changes to the ACA...but compromise with the GOP on those changes (Biden).
What's the upside to that for progressives? Compromise to sit around for 4 years and do nothing...but at least the authoritarian orange man is gone? If that is the only goal of politics and legislation in the USA, they might as well pack it up and turn towards anarchy.