2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress

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I can see Bernie not attacking the DNC. He has said should he not get the nomination he would support the eventual nominee.

But no way does Klobuchar and Steyer have any right to qualify over Tulsi Gabbard.
Its clearly cherry picking polls and manipulation by the DNC.

But why should we be surprised.

The DNC will once again push their nominee and screw Bernie over....and expect voters to fall in line.

Expect a bigger revolt than 2016.
 


I can see Bernie not attacking the DNC. He has said should he not get the nomination he would support the eventual nominee.

But no way does Klobuchar and Steyer have any right to qualify over Tulsi Gabbard.
Its clearly cherry picking polls and manipulation by the DNC.

But why should we be surprised.

The DNC will once again push their nominee and screw Bernie over....and expect voters to fall in line.

Expect a bigger revolt than 2016.


Tulsi agreed to the DNC's rules and failed to meet the minimum standards. Klobuchar and Steyer apparently have met those standards. This isn't particularly complicated.
 
Tulsi agreed to the DNC's rules and failed to meet the minimum standards. Klobuchar and Steyer apparently have met those standards. This isn't particularly complicated.

i cant stand tulsi but the rules are set up to the benefit of corporate candidates to buy their way in like steyer, it isnt particularly complicated
 
Why did Kamala even give that an answer. Trump as said and done a lot worse.
 
She should have said it's not a nice thing to to compare mentally handicapped people to someone like Donald Trump.
 
Once again. Its about the DNC setting rules that do not benefit voters.

...then complaining when their chosen candidate falls flat.

Sounds like this is precisely what you are doing - complaining because the rules don't suit the interests of a candidate you like - the political version of attempting move the goal posts until you get the desired result.

If Tulsi had an issue she should've voiced it from the beginning, or else run for a different party, or not at all.
 
Sounds like this is precisely what you are doing - complaining because the rules don't suit the interests of a candidate you like - the political version of attempting move the goal posts until you get the desired result.

If Tulsi had an issue she should've voiced it from the beginning, or else run for a different party, or not at all.

no.

Just complaining the rules are set not to benefit candidates that support ordinary Americans.
 
no.

Just complaining the rules are set not to benefit candidates that support ordinary Americans.

What about Sanders and Warren ? Aren't they generally considered progressives who support ordinary Americans ? Why are they doing so well and Tulsi isn't ? And why are Beto and Pete doing marginally better than her in the polls when all three of them are fairly new to the scene over the past 18 months or so ?
 
What about Sanders and Warren ? Aren't they generally considered progressives who support ordinary Americans ? Why are they doing so well and Tulsi isn't ? And why are Beto and Pete doing marginally better than her in the polls when all three of them are fairly new to the scene over the past 18 months or so ?
Yeah, Tulsi's just not that popular.
 
What about Sanders and Warren ? Aren't they generally considered progressives who support ordinary Americans ? Why are they doing so well and Tulsi isn't ? And why are Beto and Pete doing marginally better than her in the polls when all three of them are fairly new to the scene over the past 18 months or so ?

The DNC dare not ignore Sanders.

As for the others. Warren does talk the talk and the MSM has been very kind to her. The alternative progressive.
The other two are perfect corporate liberals.
 
So Steyer is at zero in the ABC polls. Must be one of those they ignore. He must have had tons of fossil fu....err individual donations.

Pete is the LGBT vote for the Dems.
Beto. Texas.

The point is the Dems are simply not interested in real issues that affect people. As Bernie said. They should debate key issues in each debate. One or two. I would start with Climate Change. The DNC must have alternative data that suggests we are all going to be A Okay.
 
So Steyer is at zero in the ABC polls. Must be one of those they ignore. He must have had tons of fossil fu....err individual donations.

Pete is the LGBT vote for the Dems.
Beto. Texas.

The point is the Dems are simply not interested in real issues that affect people. As Bernie said. They should debate key issues in each debate. One or two. I would start with Climate Change. The DNC must have alternative data that suggests we are all going to be A Okay.

Sure, the Dems must do all of this, or you won't vote for them and enable Trump. How about "let's vote for the best candidate that people decide"? Or is that too mainstream? Any of the Dem candidates would do a better job than Trump.
 
So Steyer is at zero in the ABC polls. Must be one of those they ignore. He must have had tons of fossil fu....err individual donations.

Pete is the LGBT vote for the Dems.
Beto. Texas.

The point is the Dems are simply not interested in real issues that affect people. As Bernie said. They should debate key issues in each debate. One or two. I would start with Climate Change. The DNC must have alternative data that suggests we are all going to be A Okay.

Sanders could've easily implemented all of this when he was negotiating with Clinton after he dropped out of the race in 16 (when he negotiated the end of super delegates).
 
Sanders could've easily implemented all of this when he was negotiating with Clinton after he dropped out of the race in 16 (when he negotiated the end of super delegates).

If I remember correctly, Sanders got Hillary to sign on to his key policies. She simply did not run on them.
I'm sure Bernie tried his best. But he could not get everything he wanted I would think.

In the end Bernie is running as a Democrat. If he ran as an Independent he would hand the GE to Trump. One of the problems of the two party system. But that is another debate.
 
9/11, War of Terror, social media, and The Apprentice never occurred yet.

The Apprentice, the invention of Twitter, and the snowballing moral capitulation of the GOP are definitely responsible for Trump's rise. Hillary, Biden, and the DNC certainly aren't.
 
The Apprentice, the invention of Twitter, and the snowballing moral capitulation of the GOP are definitely responsible for Trump's rise. Hillary, Biden, and the DNC certainly aren't.

Losing the Blue Color voter was why Trump won.

I saw what Axelrod said about them. He and the DNC gave out on them.

Not Clinton? Who gave us NAFTA.
We have been through this before. Globalization at the expense of the American voter, without a safety net of re training and short term help as Bernie is suggesting for when we need to transition to Green Energy.
 
Anyone else getting the Tulsi ads in this thread :lol:

@Red Dreams let me know how Rubin report goes. I can’t stand rave Dubin so I’ll probably wait for someone good on YouTube to cover it.

If people don’t like Secular Talk because Kulinski is goofy but are left wing check out the rational national
 
It’s fair enough for the people around 5-8% to want to stay in a bit longer to see if anything shifts, but the others really should just feck off now.
 
Anyone else getting the Tulsi ads in this thread :lol:

@Red Dreams let me know how Rubin report goes. I can’t stand rave Dubin so I’ll probably wait for someone good on YouTube to cover it.

If people don’t like Secular Talk because Kulinski is goofy but are left wing check out the rational national

Saw the entire interview.
She talks common sense. Comes across as a decent person.

These are the people we want representing us.

Leaving her out of the debates is a huge disservice.

EDIT: I would trust Tulsi over Warren any day.
 
I know this is a weird thing to be weirded out about, but I just can’t trust someone who has to get into a specifically angled posture to speak into a camera literally every time she’s interviewed.
 
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