2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress

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Is Beto doing the white power salute with his left hand?:nervous:
 
No wonder Beto's camp were hesitant to release these additional figures. Bernie got around 100k more contributors (225k donors) donating on the first day.

 



I get why people on the left dislike Harris but its odd(Well not odd for certain reasons) that Beto is getting all this hype when Harris both represent similar politics and is just a charismatic.
 
I'm coming round to this.
Every vote needs to have equal weight.

Something has to be done about the Senate representation too.
States like Wyoming and Nebraska have the same number of Senators as California, Texas and NY is ridiculous.
Actually, its not. The reason why states were given equal senate representation was to protect state rights. The idea was that if the upper house and lower house both had representation proportional to a state's population, the smaller states would be totally powerless. You have to remember that whilst we think of the US now as a country with states that are a bit like our counties, that's not how the country was formed. It was much more like a federation of individual counties, and smaller states would never have accepted this if they knew they would be with any power, control or influence.

This is a great example of the 'checks and balances' that the entire US Governmental system is based around.
 
No wonder Beto's camp were hesitant to release these additional figures. Bernie got around 100k more contributors (225k donors) donating on the first day.



I don't get the impression they were hesitant but rather somewhat disorganized since he took off for a cross country drive in a minivan after announcing and given that it was his first national run, he didn't think that he needed to release his numbers immediately given that all campaigns have to report their numbers to the FEC by end of month. The amount of donors is completely inconsequential imo, since all it tells us is Beto's public donors give roughly twice as much as Sanders', which doesn't say anything at all given that the numbers will always be in flux as the campaigns gain momentum.
 



I get why people on the left dislike Harris but its odd(Well not odd for certain reasons) that Beto is getting all this hype when Harris both represent similar politics and is just a charismatic.


Think he is the new chosen one from establishment circles.
 
And sings and plays guitar. I fecking don't trust anybody who plays guitar. Had it easy with the girls and life in general.
:lol:

This is so true, I find multi ''talented'' people very off putting. Also the guitar is such a mainstream instrument, the gong or a penny whistle and you've my vote.
 
Actually, its not. The reason why states were given equal senate representation was to protect state rights. The idea was that if the upper house and lower house both had representation proportional to a state's population, the smaller states would be totally powerless. You have to remember that whilst we think of the US now as a country with states that are a bit like our counties, that's not how the country was formed. It was much more like a federation of individual counties, and smaller states would never have accepted this if they knew they would be with any power, control or influence.

This is a great example of the 'checks and balances' that the entire US Governmental system is based around.

Understand State rights. But not if Senators over reach to hurt Other States Rights. Which is what is happening now.

The Senate does not reflect the views of the vast majority of the country. We should not need super majorities to implement Universal health Care for example.
 
Understand State rights. But not if Senators over reach to hurt Other States Rights. Which is what is happening now.

The Senate does not reflect the views of the vast majority of the country. We should not need super majorities to implement Universal health Care for example.
But how would moving the senate to PR change this?
 
Understand State rights. But not if Senators over reach to hurt Other States Rights. Which is what is happening now.

The Senate does not reflect the views of the vast majority of the country. We should not need super majorities to implement Universal health Care for example.

Isn't it possible for a single State to implement Universal Health Care for that State only? For example, California.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/25/business/economy/california-single-payer.html

https://khn.org/news/california-dre...single-payer-unlikely-to-follow-anytime-soon/
 
Isn't it possible for a single State to implement Universal Health Care for that State only? For example, California.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/25/business/economy/california-single-payer.html

https://khn.org/news/california-dre...single-payer-unlikely-to-follow-anytime-soon/

The economics of single-payer (the bargaining power of Medicare which will represent ever patient) improve with scale, making state-based systems much costlier.

However, there are 14 states with Dem trifectas (Governor, state house, state senate). Including California and NY (large populations, rich states) and also NJ, NM, Illinois, and Washington. I wonder if these states could get together and insure every resident under a common insurance scheme. If you're a resident of California and get sick in New York, you'll be covered there.

However, that would need the party to be committed to M4A, which it clearly isn't.
 
Actually, its not. The reason why states were given equal senate representation was to protect state rights. The idea was that if the upper house and lower house both had representation proportional to a state's population, the smaller states would be totally powerless. You have to remember that whilst we think of the US now as a country with states that are a bit like our counties, that's not how the country was formed. It was much more like a federation of individual counties, and smaller states would never have accepted this if they knew they would be with any power, control or influence.

This is a great example of the 'checks and balances' that the entire US Governmental system is based around.

States dont gave rights, people have rights. Smaller states holding disproportionate power is undemocratic, violates the one person one vote principle and makes progress practically impossible.
 
But how would moving the senate to PR change this?

States with greater population would have more senators. There could be a weighted system allowing more Senators for more populous states.

I see the role of a Democratic Government as representing the will of the majority while not harming the rights of the minority.
Take the Gun Control laws. It skewed to the rights Not of gun owners, but to gun manufacturers.

the NRA rubs its hands with glee every time a mass gun shooting occurs....more gun sales.
 
The economics of single-payer (the bargaining power of Medicare which will represent ever patient) improve with scale, making state-based systems much costlier.

However, there are 14 states with Dem trifectas (Governor, state house, state senate). Including California and NY (large populations, rich states) and also NJ, NM, Illinois, and Washington. I wonder if these states could get together and insure every resident under a common insurance scheme. If you're a resident of California and get sick in New York, you'll be covered there.

However, that would need the party to be committed to M4A, which it clearly isn't.

A Confederation of Single Payer/Public Option for Medical Care has been suggested.

It can happen under a Democratic government of Sanders. Not under Biden imo.
 
Actually, its not. The reason why states were given equal senate representation was to protect state rights. The idea was that if the upper house and lower house both had representation proportional to a state's population, the smaller states would be totally powerless. You have to remember that whilst we think of the US now as a country with states that are a bit like our counties, that's not how the country was formed. It was much more like a federation of individual counties, and smaller states would never have accepted this if they knew they would be with any power, control or influence.

This is a great example of the 'checks and balances' that the entire US Governmental system is based around.

Actually, it is just another way to make ensure previous hierarchies continue to flourish under a different guise.
 
2020: Vote for the candidate with the silliest name.
 
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