Bernie is talking about Elizabeth Warren as VP. Or it might be the other way round.
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Warren isn't going to beat Bernie. She's brilliant, but that East coast liberal intellectualism and school marm demeanour isn't going to win out over Bernie's fire and simplicity of message in the rural areas.
I would love to see Bernie get the nomination. But i have a niggling doubt that he can recapture the enthusiasm of 2016.
She can be very personable in small crowds. If she talks to middle class people about their expenses and how the system is rigged into keeping them on the hamster wheel for their whole lives to keep themselves solvent it would strike quite a chord.
Sanders is of course a lot more powerful at the pulpit.
For both of them or any other democrat, it depends on how much work they are prepared to put in to go into small rallies, reengage past democratic bastions like unions and factory labour.
I remember attending an Obama rally in the middle of Missouri and I didn't quite expect the warmth of reception he got as a black presidential candidate in what was quite frankly redneck America, because he could empathise with them and he was the first and only presidential candidate to make a stop there. He wasn't even wearing a suit, just a shirt with cuffs rolled up, it was quite a thing to witness.
The math is pretty simple.
If the hardcore party Democrats/establishment coalesce around one candidate, there’s no chance for Sanders.
If there are multiple candidates vying for each wing of the party, which is the way it is panning out, he has a path with his intense following and can win with a plurality in many states.
Either way, it’s gonna be a tough, tough race. Lots of his support in 2016 was the ‘ABC’ type, this time a number of that would be siphoned off due to more choices presented.
I think those will both be areas where Bernie won't have any issues, it's the core of his support. Last time the national union organizations faced holy hell from membership for endorsing Hillary over him, and I can't see them wanting to walk that kind of path again.
The test for me is going to be how much his work over the last 3 years at engaging with black communities pays off. His favourables are good with minorities, but I have no idea whether he's successfully built relationships with the major black organizations and churches that would make his path so much smoother.
yeah, his struggles with the black vote puzzle me, he has a good history of working towards the civil rights act and against apartheid. He might not have the personal relationships with the ACLU or the power brokers in the black communities which might have reduced his exposure as compared to Hilary.
The question still comes back to age though, neither Sanders nor Warren are young enough to clock the miles required to make the kind of outreach Obama did in 2008, which is why I thought someone like Beto has a real chance in this election.
Hillary was smart (though fecking unprincipled) last time, and attacked him on his strength. Straight out of the GOP playbook. She knew he'd been around the civil rights movement, so twisted it into a narrative about him trying to claim credit for what others had achieved, painting him as a white kid who went to a few marches but then fecked off to the whitest state in the country decades ago and ignored minorities until he ran for president. She painted him as an out of touch racist at every opportunity, which is ironic considering the Clinton's own extremely questionable record on race.
Not sure about that, Bernie didn't have any energy problems last time bizarre as that is.
Bernie struggled with black voters in the south but 1) he was completely unknown and 2)black voters in the south(In particular the church's) are more conservative. Plus the democratic base seems more conservative than the general American public.
Today it's simply untrue to say Bernie has a issue appealing to black voters. The problem Bernie has is not enough white people like him.
Today it's simply untrue to say Bernie has a issue appealing to black voters. The problem Bernie has is not enough white people like him.
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The young woman Bernie mentioned as VP is AOC imo.
Its up to the DNC.
If they do not want Bernie, they need to adopt his policies...which they wont.
The same ol Corporate BS will not work.
Harris is a no vote for me for example.
If they do not want Bernie, they need to adopt his policies...which they wont.
The same ol Corporate BS will not work.
Harris is a no vote for me for example.
I must be misreading this, because it seems blatantly untrue.
Still the same ol mistakes by the corporate media.
Candidate....
Policies is what matters and what will sell.
When the debates start, things will get clearer.
People want what they Need Now.
Bernie offers that.
Candidate....
Policies is what matters and what will sell.
When the debates start, things will get clearer.
People want what they Need Now.
Bernie offers that.
...AOC as VP in 2020 
Too young...AOC as VP in 2020
She needs to stay in congress.
Precisely, that was a reaction to @Red Dreams opinion above.
Bernie's total after 24 hours is 6 million. He got over double of the combined totals of Harris, Klobuchar and Warren.
Woohoo Bernie back in the running.
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Personally I like Tulsi (not every single aspect but overall she is a lot better than the Harris, Klobuchar, Gillirand crowd)
Go Bernie.
I agree.
Right now I think I'm
Bernie
Warren
Tulsi
The rest.
Bernie
Warren
Tulsi
The rest.
Warren with the South bend guy as VP would be excellent. Need a women president who is not Harris, Gillibrand or Gabbard.
Nice that Gramps has thrown his hat in the right, but I would prefer that Warren takes an early lead and then Gramps endorses her.
Nice that Gramps has thrown his hat in the right, but I would prefer that Warren takes an early lead and then Gramps endorses her.
Tulsi has a hurdle with the Assad business.
But I have no issues with her otherwise.
Yep, her comments on Islam aren't great and some of her stuff on torture...perhaps she is just more honest than others but I couldn't ever see Bernie considering or approving torture. Other than that, she's has great positions on big pharma, the environment, corruption etc. She's also hotter than a politician should be
She also scampered off to Trump tower to audition for a potential administration job. She's a total charlatan who will say whatever to get into whatever position she's aiming for.
Couldn't agree more. Just don't trust her.
What would she add to the ticket as well?
Yep, her comments on Islam aren't great and some of her stuff on torture...perhaps she is just more honest than others but I couldn't ever see Bernie considering or approving torture. Other than that, she's has great positions on big pharma, the environment, corruption etc. She's also hotter than a politician should be
I just don't see her being a good fit for a Bernie ticket.
Perhaps she thought he’d pivot
If only he hired her when she auditioned for him, she could've taught him how to in 12 months pivot from Wasserman Schultz DNC sidekick to Sanders brown noser to aspiring Trump admin official.
Beyond exciting a gaggle of pimple faced millennial YouTube podcasters, not particularly much.
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