2018 US Elections

Btw, why do especially Dems go to Iowa when they are considering to run for office?

I am a bit ignorant about that state. I thought it was just a red state with nothing significant to aid Dems in near future.

Its the very first state in the primaries and it has the caucus system. Because of the staggered primaries, the early ones are considered the most influential at setting the theme of the campaign, Iowa is basically seen as the pace setting for the Presidential campaigns.
 
Its the very first state in the primaries and it has the caucus system. Because of the staggered primaries, the early ones are considered the most influential at setting the theme of the campaign, Iowa is basically seen as the pace setting for the Presidential campaigns.

Easier answer is because it's a shit, annoying electoral system.
 
Its the very first state in the primaries and it has the caucus system. Because of the staggered primaries, the early ones are considered the most influential at setting the theme of the campaign, Iowa is basically seen as the pace setting for the Presidential campaigns.
Ah I see. Thank you for explanations!
 
Like Melania is every night.

Naw Melania has the money and thats why she married Trump. She seems like a pretty sexless being anyway, though I'm sure she has some 'congressional aide' on the side for the one night a year she gets horny.
 
Naw Melania has the money and thats why she married Trump. She seems like a pretty sexless being anyway, though I'm sure she has some 'congressional aide' on the side for the one night a year she gets horny.

I really don’t see the value in these sorts of posts.
 
I really don’t see the value in these sorts of posts.

Mostly to counter the silly 'free Melania' memes that somehow paint Melania as some noble person who is somehow being held hostage by Trump when in reality she is a big enabler of everything going on.
 
Mostly to counter the silly 'free Melania' memes that somehow paint Melania as some noble person who is somehow being held hostage by Trump when in reality she is a big enabler of everything going on.

To be honest I used to think she was oppressed and lived a miserable existence trapped in a very angry rich prison of sorts but I’ve seen enough now to know she’s a dick head herself so I have little sympathy.
 
To be honest I used to think she was oppressed and lived a miserable existence trapped in a very angry rich prison of sorts but I’ve seen enough now to know she’s a dick head herself so I have little sympathy.

Fair enough. I do apologize if the post was too visceral though, I went a little over the top on the visual.
 
Nate Silver says media missed massive ‘blue wave’ while covering ‘stories about Trump voters in truck stops’








 
The electoral college is so fecked that Trump could get reelected easily even if he becomes more unpopular than he currently is.
 
The electoral college is so fecked that Trump could get reelected easily even if he becomes more unpopular than he is now.

I don't buy that. He's more unpopular now than during the election. If he becomes even more unpopular than he is now he'll lose in a landslide, no matter how poorly designed the electoral college is.
 
The electoral college is so fecked that Trump could get reelected easily even if he becomes more unpopular than he currently is.
I dont think that is right. He won by slim margins in just enough states to carry them. He would need to match back what he did to ever get elected again. Gerrymandering wont work in the general election like it does in house races.
 
I dont think that is right. He won by slim margins in just enough states to carry them. He would need to match back what he did to ever get elected again. Gerrymandering wont work in the general election like it does in house races.

Aside from the fact it did in the election he won? Hillary beat him by 2%, just ask Cal.
 
I don't buy that. He's more unpopular now than during the election. If he becomes even more unpopular than he is now he'll lose in a landslide, no matter how poorly designed the electoral college is.
All you have to do is win by 1 vote to take all the EC votes in a state.

He could lose massive numbers of popular support and still win the same states he won last time.
 
All you have to do is win by 1 vote to take all the EC votes in a state.

He could lose massive numbers of popular support and still win the same states he won last time.
Could but... very unlikely, given the key states were won by a combined 100k votes or so.
 
Could but... very unlikely, given the key states were won by a combined 100k votes or so.
My point is that you could lose the popular vote in an actual landslide and still win the election.

He only needed to win Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan by a combined margin of 3 votes.
 
Aside from the fact it did in the election he won? Hillary beat him by 2%, just ask Cal.

The given premise was "he'll win even if he's even more unpopular than now", which doesn't match what we know. Like I said, he's already more unpopular than when he (barely) won the election. I doubt he'd win it right now, let alone if he gets even more unpopular.

Hillary beat him by 2% and lost, yes. If she had beaten him by 4%, she would have won easily. The margin was a lot bigger than that in the midterms, and although there's not a one-to-one relation between the midterms and the Presidential elections there's no doubt that the GOP and Trump are very unpopular.
 
My point is that you could lose the popular vote in an actual landslide and still win the election.

He only needed to win Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan by a combined margin of 3 votes.
Right, but I think Nimic's point was that this is fairly unlikely, given the closeness there last time, the fact that they've just voted comfortably Dem in the midterms and that they don't like him that much there anyway.

Not that he can't still win next time, but a further loss of support make his chances look slim.
 
Right, but I think Nimic's point was that this is fairly unlikely, given the closeness there last time, the fact that they've just voted comfortably Dem in the midterms and that they don't like him that much there anyway.

Not that he can't still win next time, but a further loss of support make his chances look slim.
It definitely does, but people don’t need to get their hopes up too high and possibly get complacent.

He can lose double digits in vote % in several states and still take the election because of how flawed the Electoral College is.

Nimic says he doesn’t “buy it”, but the existence of the EC is the exact reason why you should.
 
There was a map from Nate Silver superimposing congressional popular vote with the electoral college. It showed easy dem victory.
 
My point is that you could lose the popular vote in an actual landslide and still win the election.

He only needed to win Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan by a combined margin of 3 votes.

you must see how crazy this is right?

It was harder for a Democrat to lose those states.....

But hey...I should not kick her when she is ....

oh well.
 
Aside from the fact it did in the election he won? Hillary beat him by 2%, just ask Cal.
Huh?

Gerrymandering only works in house of reps. It doesnt affect the Presidential race. I dont need to ask anyone about that.
 
I think if Dems put up a good progressive candidate, they will win it in 2020.

I think people are making it too complicated. The candidate just needs to flip 3 or so states to the blue.

It is certainly doable as some of midwest and the likes of PA, GA, NC anf FL are very much in play for Democrats for next cycle.

Obviously assuming the house Democrats don't feck up too much for the next 2 years. The economy would not keep helping Trump for another 2 years.