2018 US Elections

oneniltothearsenal said:
It hasn't even been week. It sounds like you are buying into Fox News narratives ?
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If you follow any of this, both sides are lawyering up and accusing the other of some sort of malfeasance. Gillum has actually hired one of Dubya's 2000 lawyers to push his case. Scott has also filed suit against Brenda Snipes (the Broward election supervisor), the league of women voters are suing Scott, and Judicial watch are also getting involved. Once the automatically triggered recount is done, they need to wrap it up.
 
Could be worse, could react like this

 
Raoul said:
If you follow any of this, both sides are lawyering up and accusing the other of some sort of malfeasance. Gillum has actually hired one of Dubya's 2000 lawyers to push his case. Scott has also filed suit against Brenda Snipes (the Broward election supervisor), the league of women voters are suing Scott, and Judicial watch are also getting involved. Once the automatically triggered recount is done, they need to wrap it up.
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If history has taught us anything, it is that we should never accept injustice.
Trump and Scott have tried to delegitimize the elections.
For Gillum and Nelson Not to lawyer up in response to such naked aggression is to betray all the voters.

Justice does not always fall in your lap.

Often we need to fight for it.

Every vote counts.
 
Red Dreams said:
If history has thought us anything, it is that we should never accept injustice.
Trump and Scott have tried to delegitimize the elections.
For Gillum and Nelson Not to lawyer up in response to such naked aggression is to betray all the voters.

Justice does not always fall in your lap.

Often we need to fight for it.

Every vote counts.
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That's why they have auto recounts at .5% and a manual one at .25%. Once those are done, they will have exhausted their options...unless of course they want to keep suing until they think they can catch up.
 
Raoul said:
If you follow any of this, both sides are lawyering up and accusing the other of some sort of malfeasance. Gillum has actually hired one of Dubya's 2000 lawyers to push his case. Scott has also filed suit against Brenda Snipes (the Broward election supervisor), the league of women voters are suing Scott, and Judicial watch are also getting involved. Once the automatically triggered recount is done, they need to wrap it up.
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You started talking about hoping they concede soon before the automatic1 recounts even start. A week or two premature for that 'no drama' talk imo.
 
Raoul said:
That's why they have auto recounts at .5% and a manual one at .25%. Once those are done, they will have exhausted their options...unless of course they want to keep suing until they think they can catch up.
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and how do you know that they will go beyond this?

From everything They have said it is that they want all the votes to be counted.

After that, whatever the results, they will accept it as they should.
 
Red Dreams said:
and how do you know that they will go beyond this?

From everything They have said it is that they want all the votes to be counted.

After that, whatever the results, they will accept it as they should.
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Everyone uses the "we just want every vote to be counted" talking point, but the objective is obviously to find any plausible path to winning the election, so that argument is a bit disingenuous.
 
Raoul said:
Everyone uses the "we just want every vote to be counted" talking point, but the objective is obviously to find any plausible path to winning the election, so that argument is a bit disingenuous.
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we cannot speculate nor make such general statements.
Either the votes are there or they are not.
Scott tried to compound the voting machines and ballots.The judge threw his suit out.

Simply let the process go through.

We will know soon enough.
 
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Raoul said:
If you follow any of this, both sides are lawyering up and accusing the other of some sort of malfeasance. Gillum has actually hired one of Dubya's 2000 lawyers to push his case. Scott has also filed suit against Brenda Snipes (the Broward election supervisor), the league of women voters are suing Scott, and Judicial watch are also getting involved. Once the automatically triggered recount is done, they need to wrap it up.
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This is just Fox News echo chamber groupthink stuff.
 
Red Dreams said:
McSally was so gracious...

err cause she is being appointed soon to McCain's seat. Kyle has had enough.
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She was, which came as surprisingly to me considering that she is essentially McTrump (voted 98% with him, didn't mention McCain when talking about his bill, etc etc, essentially she was imitating Trump all along).
 
Eboue said:
we shouldnt waste time counting the actual votes of this election, we have to start talking about the primary two years from now
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:lol:

Yeah, feck democracy, bitches! Let's talk about what names Trump is going to throw at the shitty Dem candidates. All 28 of them including Oprah, Kim Kardashian, an imperial stormtrooper, Justin Biebers mum, Dolly the Sheep, Oscar the Crouch, your mum and Hillary Clinton.
 
As the party becomes more Trumpian, their cnahces of taken back the House recede.
 
Adisa said:
As the party becomes more Trumpian, their cnahces of taken back the House recede.
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Jordan was an assistant wrestling coach with Ohio State University's wrestling program from 1987 to 1995.[44] OSU opened an investigation in April 2018 that looked into allegations of sexual misconduct by the former wrestling team's physician, Richard Strauss — who was the physician during Jordan's tenure as an assistant coach.[45][46] Dr. Strauss committed suicide in 2005.[47] In early July 2018, at least eight former wrestlers said that Jordan had been aware of, but didn't respond to, allegations of sexual misconduct by Strauss.[48][49][46][50] If he had seen abuse at the time, Jordan replied, “I would have done something about it.” Former UFC world champion Mark Coleman said, “He knew as far as I'm concerned.”[46] Former 1980's Ohio State wrestler David Range said teammates spoke of Strauss’ behavior often in the locker room while Jordan was present. A nurse who worked with the team was interviewed on video by Politico and confirmed observing Strauss fondling a team member until the athlete ejaculated. Another Ohio wrestler, Dunyasha Yetts, told Politico he had asked both Jordan and Hellickson to be present for an examination with Strauss, to avoid inappropriate touching by Strauss. That allegation was denied by Jordan’s office. One former wrestler said that he saw Jordan kick a male voyeur out of the wrestlers’ sauna, though that would suggest that Jordan was aware that there was a problem -- something he has to date denied.[51] None of the wrestlers accused Jordan of personal sexual misconduct.[51] On August 9, 2018, former UFC world champion Mark Coleman, who had previously said that Jordan knew of the abuse, clarified: "At no time did I ever say or have any direct knowledge that Jim Jordan knew of Dr. Richard Strauss’s inappropriate behavior. I have nothing but respect for Jim Jordan as I have known him for more than 30 years and know him to be of impeccable character." Coleman stated he was one of the wrestlers abused by the team physician.
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berbatrick said:
Jim Jordan info...
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Think about this...

Jim Jordan's brother, Jeff Jordan, is a legend of a wrestling coach and his 3 sons are all fantastic wrestlers. When it came time for them to choose where to wrestle in college, they all chose Ohio State.

Jim's 2 sons went to wrestle at Wisconsin.
 
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