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DNC chair Perez just had a shocker of an interview on CNN.
DNC chair Perez just had a shocker of an interview on CNN.
I don't know why you're asking me that.
Because its the exact same logic that you use to not vote on propositions.
You don't believe in the system, therefore you don't vote. How is that any different than many of the other reasons people give for not voting at all?
Not really. I vote for other major offices and if a law needs making then it can be done by the legislature. If you know about the initiative process here in CA then you'll know just how crap a system it is. I don't vote on stupid positions like sheriffs and judges either because I don't have time to get informed about those running and think it's also a bullshit way of doing things.
Live in Minnesota.
Walz (Gov)
(Senators) Klobachar and Smith (Special Election) Franken's seat.
All will come in for Democrats.
Ellison has taken some hits because of made up claims by his ex girlfriend about a physical abuse claim.
But ads are running against a Republican corporate stooge for the AG position.
Ellison should get through.
Walz is pushing a Public Option in Health Care and in fact 2019 premiums will be lower in any case if going through MNSure which anyone can buy through.
MN is moving left and will come in for Bernie in the 2020 caucuses.
The great state of California:
11 propositions to vote on alongside the US and State level, county level and city level positions.
Three full pages of ballot that took about 3 hours to research.
On the state: Newsom (D) will win CA governor.
Di-Fi (D) will probably get the US Senate; US Rep will probably go to Rouda (D).
I figure the rest of the CA state govmnt positions will go to the Dems.
Agreed. Time for new blood.Di Fi needs to retire or kick the bucket. At this point she does more harm than good. Why can't these people have the grace to step aside, after what 30-years in the Senate?
Power...Di Fi needs to retire or kick the bucket. At this point she does more harm than good. Why can't these people have the grace to step aside, after what 30-years in the Senate?
ok guys & @Raoul
what is the plan for Tuesday night?. when will the results start to be known so I can set the body clock??
it's a bullshit article, Beto is going to outperform the democrats running for congress on a platform to his right. Republicans who claim they want to vote for "sensible democrats" are fecking liars who would happily vote for John McCain's cancer if it had a (R) next to it.https://www.politico.com/magazine/s...eto-orourke-texas-senate-2018-election-222188
Interesting argument. Of course a Beto win would "flip the script" but if he ends up losing I would tend to agree with the central thesis of the article. I think Beto is extremely naive and not pragmatic enough to be an effective politician. Barack Obama preached and stood for high ideals but he also had excellent political strategists who had a strong dose of pragmatism and cynicism needed to run and win elections. I don't think Beto has convinced me that he could convince enough people to vote for him against Trump which is a shame as he has many good qualities that are needed at the national level.
it's a bullshit article, Beto is going to outperform the democrats running for congress on a platform to his right. Republicans who claim they want to vote for "sensible democrats" are fecking liars who would happily vote for John McCain's cancer if it had a (R) next to it.
too late you already endorsed it
https://www.politico.com/magazine/s...eto-orourke-texas-senate-2018-election-222188
Interesting argument. Of course a Beto win would "flip the script" but if he ends up losing I would tend to agree with the central thesis of the article. I think Beto is extremely naive and not pragmatic enough to be an effective politician. Barack Obama preached and stood for high ideals but he also had excellent political strategists who had a strong dose of pragmatism and cynicism needed to run and win elections. I don't think Beto has convinced me that he could convince enough people to vote for him against Trump which is a shame as he has many good qualities that are needed at the national level.
This is relevant because when the time comes and Beto loses the IMMEDIATE response will be a combination of the fact he's 'too far to the left' and 'he didn't have enough money because of PACs'. Neither of these points are true. He is running to the left of her without PAC money yet raising more (60m vs .5m) and he'll lose by 4-8% while she'll lose by 15-20%. It's important you don't let the narrative that Beto is too radical seep in. Beto is probably going to have more votes than Valdez and it's likely because of his focus on integrity through money as well as being genuinely to the left of most politicians.
https://ballotpedia.org/State_Poll_Opening_and_Closing_Times_(2018)
goes state by State.
The Eastern States will be the first. Normally polls close 7 or 8 pm local time. So the first ones will be 7 or 8 ET.
Missouri Senate poll: NBC/Marist
Claire McCaskill (D) 50%
Josh Hawley (R) 47%"
ok guys & @Raoul
what is the plan for Tuesday night?. when will the results start to be known so I can set the body clock??
When will we know the results?
The votes will start to be counted as soon as the each polling station closes, which means results will trickle in over the early hours of the morning. We can expect a clear picture on what the elections mean for the country by 8am GMT.
So, if Dems get both Missouri and Nevada (in addition to those which are favorites to win), it is going to be 50-50, which essentially means that Murkowsi, Paul and Pence will be the ones which decide what happens.
Or we can dream and Dems get one of Texas, North Dacota or Tennessee.
You're forgetting Joe Manchin (and probably Doug Jones and Heitkamp)
You're right, Manchin and Heitkamp vote more with Trump than against him. Manchin votes 61% of time with Trump. For comparison, Rand Paul votes 74%. Heitkamp votes 55% while Jones 50%.You're forgetting Joe Manchin (and probably Doug Jones and Heitkamp)
I think that was his point, that he is essentially a 'swing' vote which can go either way (same as Heitkamp, Jones, Paul, Murkowski, Collins and how McCain was until his death).Joe Manchin winning or losing doesn't matter either way. Only a democrat by name. Can't see him voting with Dems on any issue. Maybe Chuck Schumer will change his 'let the moderates break on their own' shtick after midterm but hey ho
So, if Dems get both Missouri and Nevada (in addition to those which are favorites to win), it is going to be 50-50, which essentially means that Murkowsi, Paul and Pence will be the ones which decide what happens.
Or we can dream and Dems get one of Texas, North Dacota or Tennessee.
So, if Dems get both Missouri and Nevada (in addition to those which are favorites to win), it is going to be 50-50, which essentially means that Murkowsi, Paul and Pence will be the ones which decide what happens.
Or we can dream and Dems get one of Texas, North Dacota or Tennessee.