Ah, I see. But one of them was a professor in "American Studies" and should have known about this surely. They were incredulous that someone was being attacked on being unfit to be in charge of the nuclear arsenal, that this had never happened before. It was only one moment among many other glaring inaccuracies and way-behind-the-times statements.
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Ah, I see. But one of them was a professor in "American Studies" and should have known about this surely. They were incredulous that someone was being attacked on being unfit to be in charge of the nuclear arsenal, that this had never happened before. It was only one moment among many other glaring inaccuracies and way-behind-the-times statements.
Seems like TBP is representative of Irishs after all.
Yeah, thankfully the internet exists. 20 years ago you just had to take the supposed authority's word about it.
Whut? 
For all those British English speakers out there...
And now the Podestas are the ones who abducted Madeline McCann, according to twitter 
I'll refrain from posting the actual tweets here, this thread has been ludicrous enough the last few days.
I'll refrain from posting the actual tweets here, this thread has been ludicrous enough the last few days.
About 24 hours left until Armageddon.
I have to arrange Wednesday off. And start buying beers.
I have to arrange Wednesday off. And start buying beers.
Hillary will be 73 years old next time. I can see both Ryan and Rubio defeating her in 2020.
It has very little to do with age, Hillary will have a big task seeking a 4th term for the Dems regardless of who she's against.
Her best hope is The Donald running again.
Already done.
Also done but may need to restock by then
It's shaping up to be one of the least productive day of the year
It's shaping up to be one of the least productive day of the year
I've cleared my calendar til 2pm on Wednesday, I wonder if I should clear more
I think it will be a combination of things: Hillary being old, Democrats having had 3 consecutive terms, her being not the most popular person alive, and likely Republicans having a decent candidate that time around.
Whut?
unreal!The upshot of this shit heep of an election is the number of loons outing themselves as such. My girlfriend's family and indeed some of my family are always preaching the glory of America and the moral superiority of the GOP. Now I have so much freakin' ammunition it's beautiful
And anything they say about Clinton, I'll just ask did Comey tell them that, or remind them I voted Sanders
I'll be a in a hotel in Cork, with just a passive part to play (just taking notes of things of interest to me) in a conference the next day, so I may stay up all night to watch the results with a bottle of Irish whisky to keep me company as I watch the Trumperites try to explain their loss by crying about fraud and vote-rigging.
I know it is wrong to feel like this but I kind of want Trump to win just to watch everyone lose their s**t.
@Rado_N I think this guy might interest you
The fact she will be 73 tells me that it is actually quite unlikely she will go for a 2nd term. If she's still healthy and going strong, she may well do. But she will be 73 and looking at Obama, the presidency unsurprisingly takes a hell of a lot out of you.
I would also have some words to say about him but @Grinner has already made it perfectly clear to me that insulting in the generals is not allowed (even though everyone else seems to do it, so i wonder if they all got PM'ed....)
I would also have some words to say about him but @Grinner has already made it perfectly clear to me that insulting in the generals is not allowed (even though everyone else seems to do it, so i wonder if they all got PM'ed....)
What do you think?
Who knows. Maybe it's rigged
White text of to say BANTER before i get shafted again by el moderationatorsHe will be more impotent than BO in the Whitehouse anyway.
I'll be shocked if she doesn't go for a 2nd term. The first female president bottling it after 4 years? That's not how she wants to be remembered.
This is a fair point too. I have no doubt she will WANT to go for a 2nd term, I just question if she WILL be able to go for a second term. To be president until the age of 77 is a tough, tough ask. And coupled with all the negative points about her (which a decent republican candidate would have been able to do a better job of exploiting even this time round), it could make for a bad run for the dems.
She is 69! Looking well for it.
I'm not sure how a different GOP candidate would do a better job, it's pretty clear that Trump has a unique appeal to the basket of deplorables and I doubt they'd be turning out in such numbers if it was someone like Ryan or Rubio running against her.
She's pretty much been able to hold onto the Obama coalition, perhaps replacing some African Americans with Hisapnics.
The Republicans will be even more fecked in 4 years from now. A more shrunken demographic base and now facing years of internal civil war. Trump won't go quietly - he'll do all he can to destroy the remaining moderates, crying betrayal, and his goon-followers will lap it up.
The problem with the 'but but but a centrist Republican would have beaten her' is that...
The basket want their own deplorable.
The establishment elders were able to maintain a semblance of control in '12, partly also due to the populist candidates at that time being a bunch of utter nitwits hampered by the finance trappings of a traditional candidate, and got Mittens through the finish line. The floodgates are open now, no going back from it.
The basket want their own deplorable.
The establishment elders were able to maintain a semblance of control in '12, partly also due to the populist candidates at that time being a bunch of utter nitwits hampered by the finance trappings of a traditional candidate, and got Mittens through the finish line. The floodgates are open now, no going back from it.
Yea it would be absolutely hilarious to see a vile racist misogynist in charge of the most powerful country on Earth. A man who those who work closest with him cant trust with a twitter account should definitely be elevated to a position of enormous power and diplomatic importance.
Seeing minorities trampled on and race relations in the US set back even further than they are are, seeing women's rights restricted, seeing the LGBT community have the hostility they face legitimised, these things aren't important, what really matters is being able to laugh at the people who care about these things.
Sigh.
That's not entirely true. Many of these deplorable people would usually vote republican anyway - we aren't seeing a big swing so far of democrats moving over to Trump. We are however seeing a number of republicans moving to Clinton. We can't also ignore the fact that Trump hasn't the backing of mainstream republican politicians, which also means he loses some of the more educated republican vote.
Of course conversely, his "unique" appeal will lead to a greater turnout in base (the deplorables).
However, you also have to look at the huge hispanic factor. They are significantly supporting Clinton (so it seems). If a candidate like Rubio was there, you'd have to question whether they would be backing Clinton to such a degree.
You also have to remember that you can't think of it holistically or on a macro level. If hispanic vote swung to Rubio (if he was running) instead of Clinton, states like Nevada, Florida would potentially be much more likely to go red, and then the path for a republican to the WH would be significantly more easier.
Anyway, i'm just playing devils advocate to an extent. I do think the race would be much closer if a more central republican was running, and i do think if they do that in 4 years HRC will find it harder. I don't disagree with whats being said by some of you guys either in some ways too.
538 is raising chances for Dump while everybody else is doing the opposite. I am slightly nervous.
Yes. You are right.
Although I meant more as a seismic news event rather than to laugh at people that are upset.
@rpitroda Little Marco's Latino appeal is almost entirely limited to the Cuban community in Florida, which to be fair, is a significant edge, starting with those 29 EVs in the bank, but it doesn't extend beyond that. In fact, the South American Hispanics in the US often resent the Cuban Americans due to their preferential treatment (wet foot, dry foot).
And being an orthodox establishment stooge, he'd have less of an appeal in Midwest states like OH or IA. I don't think we can definitively say between him and the Donald who has the edge in drawing a favourable map.
What he has, clearly, is more money, self control and messaging, which should make him more competitive among the younger generations.
And being an orthodox establishment stooge, he'd have less of an appeal in Midwest states like OH or IA. I don't think we can definitively say between him and the Donald who has the edge in drawing a favourable map.
What he has, clearly, is more money, self control and messaging, which should make him more competitive among the younger generations.
And Asian-Americans
Admittedly I don't have a significant in depth knowledge of these issues. I'm basing this purely on my opinion and what seems logical in my mind.
On a completely separate note, and something that I don't think anyone else has really picked up on - why is it that Drumpf cannot talk about the black vote without pivoting to gang violence and inner cities? Isn't that in itself evidence of his ignorance/racism that no matter the black man in front of him, he can only talk about gang violence and inner cities (i.e. that there's no way that that man couldn't be interested in anything else)?
There's been a movement of married women towards her so that's probably not a bad shout.
How I Call it (still think Clinton will lose Florida and keep the excitement going on the night)
Biggest Winners
Twitter (bigly)
Dollar
The further rise of Extreme Fasicm and White Power
Paul Ryan
Biggest Losers
Hillary Clinton (her tenure is tarred by association with this election campaign)
Rudy Giuliani and Republican Party
Fox TV - could not get any lower with their coverage
Putin & Russia
Biggest Winners
Twitter (bigly)
Dollar
The further rise of Extreme Fasicm and White Power
Paul Ryan
Biggest Losers
Hillary Clinton (her tenure is tarred by association with this election campaign)
Rudy Giuliani and Republican Party
Fox TV - could not get any lower with their coverage
Putin & Russia
Final round up.
Lacking in this list is CBS/NYT (+4)
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