2016 US Presidential Elections | Trump Wins

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Cheesy said:
If you're going to make claims regarding this unparalleled corruption you speak of, then...well, yeah, you're expected to at least direct us to one semi-valid source to prove your point. It's sort of how informed discussion is supposed to work.
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Agreed, it's just that right now I can't be arsed to do it. But I did say I will compile something tomorrow when I can be arsed to hopefully. Which will in turn accomplish nothing, so it is a waste of time.
 
IhabX7 said:
Agreed, it's just that right now I can't be arsed to do it. But I did say I will compile something tomorrow when I can be arsed to hopefully. Which will in turn accomplish nothing, so it is a waste of time.
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Unless it's genuinely insightful with verifiable information from a good source. As I've said though, the vast majority of this tends to come from infowars and other such crap.
 
IhabX7 said:
Agreed, it's just that right now I can't be arsed to do it. But I did say I will compile something tomorrow when I can be arsed to hopefully. Which will in turn accomplish nothing, so it is a waste of time.
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Looking forward to it mkII.

I imagine it'd also be a waste of time to keep repeating these unsubstantiated claims until you have that evidence ready, right? It'd be rude to sidetrack this thread for nothing, I mean, until you have it all ready.
 
IhabX7 said:
Agreed, it's just that right now I can't be arsed to do it. But I did say I will compile something tomorrow when I can be arsed to hopefully. Which will in turn accomplish nothing, so it is a waste of time.
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So basically how Trump has said he'd release his tax returns, but he can't be arsed, but he's gonna release them, but he's not... ?

Edit: also, I find it hard to believe that in the time you've spent obfuscating and telling us you can't be arsed to take the time to post a link to these obviously damning emails, that you couldn't have just gone, easily found the highly memorable and incriminating emails and posted 1 post with said links in them and been done with the whole matter. Terrible job at time management if you ask me.
 
Silva said:


I've seen plenty of emails, just none that have anything you claim they do.. Why not work for yourself and try not to look ill-informed?
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I've read loads of them, there's so little there. The whole thing is really weird. I'm not saying she isn't dodgy, and way too cozy with the corporate elite for my comfort, but I've yet to see anything in them - literally anything - that justifies the level of "Lock her up" hysteria they've engendered. Even the bad ones fall mostly into "the kind of dickish palm greasing cronyism you suspect happens at administrative level in every large organisation" category. It's not big, and it's not clever, but it's also not illegal, or even remotely equatable with fascism.

Then again, much like Brexit, Trump has tapped into such a deep resentment of the political class, that the mere mention of buzzwords like corruption, banks, elites, establishment, conspiracy, status quo, etc, can send a certain type of disillusioned straight white (mostly male) voter into an angry irrational frenzy, where the content is a distant second to the headline. "They say it's bad, so it must be bad, and I'm angry, so BWRRRRAAAAAAAWW!!"

And I say straight and white, because only that demographic could possibly care more about the vague, intangible danger of elitist backscratching, than the very real threat of persecution and violence, that minorities would face in the wake of a White Nationlist endorsed Presidency. The spike in race crime post Brexit would be nothing compared to the aftermath of a Trump win. Just imagine it. The horror. The horrorrrrr!

But yeah, Hillary and banks and Wall Street and elites and Benghazi and emails and stuff. It's out there. I can't explain it specifically without deferring to YouTube, tweets or Alex Jones, but it's definitely worse than racist demagoguery because ELITES!
 
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@Mockney precisely. But apparently, I clearly haven't read enough of them according to someone tonight :rolleyes:
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There's no way anyone genuinely irate about them has read a significant amount..because you simply can't come to such a strong conclusion on the basis of a tonne of deathly boring work correspondence, almost none of which involves Hilary directly. They've been told they're bad, and that's all that matters.

And that's without getting into the outright hypocrisy of the whole "we're just sick of the status quo/establishment" argument. When, like Brexit, the whole platform is run on the promise of taking the country 'back' to an imagined halcyon regressive past, somewhere between the 50s and the 80s, where the status quo was palatable, and modern things like Political Correctness and healthcare and abortions and black Presidents never came to pass, and your leader is an inherited billionare who lives in a golden palace, you're talking out of your fecking arse if you think you're fighting the system... If anything you're setting it back decades.
 
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I for one can't wait until Trump becomes what he was born to be, the leader of the free world. :drool:
 
If humanity elects Trump as leader of the free world then frankly we deserve a nuclear winter.
 
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