2016 US Presidential Elections | Trump Wins

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I promise you that with just a few hours of research you will understand how troubling the extent of her and her husbands corruption goes.

Maybe...but I tend to find a lot of the supposed sources about the Clinton corruption tend to be from Alex Jones and other such shite and deal more in opinion and biased views than in actual fact. I've no doubt there's a lot of corruption in there, and I think the image they project is largely false as a married couple considering Bill's past (and feck knows, possibly current) adultery, but I doubt they're as bad as Trump...who, again, has lots of awful, awful murky stuff out there on his past.
 
I promise you that with just a few hours of research you will understand how troubling the extent of her and her husbands corruption goes.
We've spent literally months going over this. We know she's corrupt, and how corrupt she is. But most of us have come to the conclusion she's not as bad a agent Orange. And that her corruption is exaggerated by far right sources to the point where it's tiresome to even discuss "she should be jail", like feck should she.
 
Tbf Jill Stein is as much of a hack as Garry Johnson. She just doesn't getting attention to highlight it.

Yeah, I'd personally agree - some of the stuff that's come out on her shows she's terrible. I just think it's better to point that out with factual info, instead of trying to patronise someone by asking if they're of college/uni age.
 
But it's better to argue the posters actual point than just respond with, "You're naive." I mean...you could argue stuff like this is kind of why a lot of younger people are disillusioned with politics. Being told by others, "No, you're wrong and foolish. Be quiet." Yeah, it's probably irrational but at least point out why, instead of just writing the point off with an unrelated observation that's about the poster and not the post.

All the points regarding Sanders and Stein have already been argued ad naseum throughout the thread. He's just throwing pebbles into the discussion and scampering away without a trace of courage to support his posts with cogent arguments. Those sort of posters typically don't fare well here.
 
Maybe...but I tend to find a lot of the supposed sources about the Clinton corruption tend to be from Alex Jones and other such shite and deal more in opinion and biased views than in actual fact. I've no doubt there's a lot of corruption in there, and I think the image they project is largely false as a married couple considering Bill's past (and feck knows, possibly current) adultery, but I doubt they're as bad as Trump...who, again, has lots of awful, awful murky stuff out there on his past.

No need to worry though. He's going to post actual samples of the corruption he's talking about, clearly worse than anything Trump is alleged to have done, verifiable and with clear context so that we can fully understand the situation in which they were written. By tomorrow.

Only take a few hours apparently.
 
Yeah, I'd personally agree - some of the stuff that's come out on her shows she's terrible. I just think it's better to point that out with factual info, instead of trying to patronise someone by asking if they're of college/uni age.
Even the UK Green party managed to get away from homeopathy, she's got no excuse. Especially being a Doctor.
 
Hillary wants to arm the Kurds, which means trouble with a NATO ally in Turkey, so she isn't far from what you are calling out trump for. And this from 2008:

Deary me is that someone with years of experience talking? Stop fooling yourself.


That video is edited bigtime. It starts in a middle of a discussion and doing so totally takes things out of context. What she is talking about is IF Iran attacked Israel first then she would attack Iran in the defence of Israel which is defending an allied nation from an attack and this is not insane but only solid international policy. She dosn´t say she just wants to randomly attack Iran for crying out loud. Also look at the editing at the end a random pictures of a nuclear bomb for random dramatic effect. This video looks like something you´d expect on Alex Jones web site and similiar. You need to do better than that.
 
Even the UK Green party managed to get away from homeopathy, she's got no excuse. Especially being a Doctor.

She's kinda terrible on science too, isn't she? Which is never helpful for a party that, first and foremost, is supposed to be about the environment.
 
Hillary wants to arm the Kurds, which means trouble with a NATO ally in Turkey, so she isn't far from what you are calling out trump for. And this from 2008:

Deary me is that someone with years of experience talking? Stop fooling yourself.


The video is dated 2008 - well before the nuclear deal I mentioned. So she was saying then that if takes military action to stop such weapons development, then she'd be in favour. There's nothing more to see here.

As for Turkey being a NATO ally - that only now really applies on paper, since they now have an Islamist President who has rounded up tens of thousands of his political opponents, shut down the independent press and media, and is busy cosying up to Russia.

I too am I favour of arming the Kurds in Syria and Iraq.
 
The video is dated 2008 - well before the nuclear deal I mentioned. So she was saying then that if takes military action to stop such weapons development, then she'd be in favour. There's nothing more to see here.

As for Turkey being a NATO ally - that only now really applies on paper, since they now have an Islamist President who has rounded up tens of thousands of his political opponents, shut down the independent press and media, and is busy cosying up to Russia.

I too am I favour of arming the Kurds in Syria and Iraq.
Plus, she'll at least keep the Iran deal and not just throw it out because of an unerring devotion to that policy.
 
This is surely satire, it's what trolls do when they've got nothing.
I can't be arsed. I don't even know why I'm here to be honest. Arguing over the internet is such a weird thing to me. Talking about football, I give myself a pass, fair enough, but arguing politics here is just an utter waste of time.
 
I'm going to take the short reply as a sign that you're distracted by being so busy working on collecting this evidence for us.

He's got the greatest evidence, the best evidence. No one loves evidence as much as he does.
 
I can't be arsed. I don't even know why I'm here to be honest. Arguing over the internet is such a weird thing to me. Talking about football, I give myself a pass, fair enough, but arguing politics here is just an utter waste of time.

Retract what you said then. No proof for your extraordinary claim, you can take it back and go on your merry way.

Arguing over the internet is such a weird thing to me.
Edit: says someone with 4k posts :D
 
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/tu...rds-.aspx?PageID=238&NID=104832&NewsCatID=338
It's an article from less than 3 weeks ago.

The same ISIL that are being funded by the ally governments of Saudi Arabia and Qatar?
Your red herring about who is funding them doesn't concern me.

What does concern me is that arming the Peshmerga has support from democrats and republicans in the current government, so attempting to call out Hillary for supporting it is a bit silly.
 
Your red herring about who is funding them doesn't concern me.

What does concern me is that arming the Peshmerga has support from democrats and republicans in the current government, so attempting to call out Hillary for supporting it is a bit silly.
He's a troll, it's pretty much established now. Throw in a hand grenade, obfuscate, get everyone off topic then piss off.
 
He's a troll, it's pretty much established now. Throw in a hand grenade, obfuscate, get everyone off topic then piss off.
Information is as accessible for you as it is for me, but you want me to do the work for you?
 
Your red herring about who is funding them doesn't concern me.

What does concern me is that arming the Peshmerga has support from democrats and republicans in the current government, so attempting to call out Hillary for supporting it is a bit silly.
It's not a red herring. Alarm bells should be ringing. I'm replying to about ten different people, make out what is for you.
 
Information is as accessible for you as it is for me, but you want me to do the work for you?

If you're going to make claims regarding this unparalleled corruption you speak of, then...well, yeah, you're expected to at least direct us to one semi-valid source to prove your point. It's sort of how informed discussion is supposed to work.
 


I've seen plenty of emails, just none that have anything you claim they do.. Why not work for yourself and try not to look ill-informed?


If it was Trump he'd only be asking her age to check when he can date her.:lol:
 
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