2016 US Presidential Elections | Trump Wins

[GlastonSpur]

@IhabX7

I posted this earlier in the thread, perhaps you missed it. All of it fact:

* Trump has tweeted the motto favoured by Mussolini.
* He drops anti-Semitic hints left, right and centre - e.g. tweeting a six-pointed star, echoing the Jewish Star of David, positioned next to a photo of Clinton against a backdrop of money.
* At a campaign rally in Florida he evoked fascist symbolism by asking his supporters to raise their right arms and pledge to vote for him
* He's spoken openly about jailing his political opponents
* He's encouraged his supporters to be physically threatening and intimidating
* He's advocated the torture of terrorist suspects
* He's spoken of his admiration for 'strong men' like Putin and Sadaam Hussein
* He's spoken about not accepting the results of the election
* He's encouraged hostility to the free press and media - who are an essential pillar of democracy
* He's referred to Obama's presidency as a 'regime' ... as if his democratic election doesn't matter.
* He's mused about "2nd amendment solutions"
* He's promised to round up 11m people and deport them, which would first mean establishing camps to concentrate them in.
* His supporters put out videos like Big Guns, which shows an ex-Navy Seal firing a high-powered, rapid-fire gun, accompanied by ominous voice-overs about the Democratic Party.

The list goes on an on. And that's not to mention his sly racism nor his constant referral to a global conspiracy (code for Jews supposedly controlling events).

 

[Silva]

Clinton has made mistakes for sure, and she has faults and isn't perfect by any stretch, nobody has said otherwise, but anyone who says she is worse or more dangerous than Trump not only needs their head examined, but they also need to go back and do some research and learn to think before they speak as all the evidence is there.

It's fecking mental isn't it. Corruption is bad, but you don't elect fat Hitler to correct that.

 

[Carolina Red]

Anyone who calls Trump a fascist needs their head examined. The man might be vile, but to believe he will introduce fascism to the united states is just childlike thinking.

How many boxes has he checked?
(See image above that you obviously ignored)

 

[cyberman]

You have no leg to stand on in your argument.

So the Dems asking for a probe into how easy it is for Russia to hack into and release confidential emails isn't an ironic own goal when their own candidate used a private server to send classified information back amd forth?
But then again.. Feck Trump right? Lets close our eyes to this shit..

 

[George Owen]

So they're not covering up anything...

they have been clearly focusing in the wrong issues though, ignoring the worst part...

 

[Silva]

So the Dems asking for a probe into how easy it is for Russia to hack into and release confidential emails isn't an ironic own goal when their own candidate used a private server to send classified information back amd forth?
But then again.. Feck Trump right? Lets close out eyes to this shit..

The private servers that Democrats and Republicans used weren't hacked. They've been safer than the centralised system.

 

[Charlie Foley]

The cover up job they're doing for Hillary is nothing short of criminal in my books.

We got a live one folks!

The Dems are trying to turn the narrative to it being a disgrace that Russia are trying to influence the election with hacked emails / wikileaks etc.
Isn't that why secured email servers are vital? If anything they should steer clear from that line of thought.

And?

Two!! What a great way to celebrate the countdown to page 1000

 

[Raoul]

 

[IhabX7]

So they're not covering up anything...

I'm done explaining that. Read it over and over.

 

[unchanged_lineup]

Anyone who calls Trump a fascist needs their head examined. The man might be vile, but to believe he will introduce fascism to the united states is just childlike thinking.


I don't believe you have read as many as you say. I don't have the time to link it all now, but I will do so tomorrow if you don't find them on you're own by then. There are many many website listing them so I don't know why you need me anyway.

Looking forward to it. Really, I am. Don't forget the clear context of the snippets you're going to post either, please.

 

[Silva]

There's also something extraordinary about claiming the Clinton's have a cover up machine when Donald is literally has limiting press freedom on his platform.

 

[Carolina Red]

So the Dems asking for a probe into how easy it is for Russia to hack into and release confidential emails isn't an ironic own goal when their own candidate used a private server to send classified information back amd forth?
But then again.. Feck Trump right? Lets close our eyes to this shit..

Considering her personal server wasn't hacked...

 

[Charlie Foley]

their own candidate used a private server to send classified information back amd forth?

It is ironic that you misspelled 'and' given that's what you kept saying on the last page.

 

[DOTA]

Spoiler

18% amused if Trump wins.

We're not very nice...

 

[Red Defence]

So the Dems asking for a probe into how easy it is for Russia to hack into and release confidential emails isn't an ironic own goal when their own candidate used a private server to send classified information back amd forth?
But then again.. Feck Trump right? Lets close our eyes to this shit..

Perhaps it's as well she did if the centralised servers were hacked and hers wasn't.

 

[Carolina Red]

I'm done explaining that. Read it over and over.

To be fair, you've done an excellent job explaining how a "cover up" isn't happening.

Although you've done a very poor job on the "Trump's not a neo-fascist" front

 

[George Owen]

Fascism:

fas·cism
ˈfaSHˌizəm/
noun
noun: fascism; noun: Fascism; plural noun: Fascisms
an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.


so basically a dictatorship...

Is Trump gonna be a dictator?

If anything, the only dictatorship in America right now is the one held by the big corporations and big banks. (and they support who?... yes... the devil herself)

 

[Silva]

Fascism:

fas·cism
ˈfaSHˌizəm/
noun
noun: fascism; noun: Fascism; plural noun: Fascisms
an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.


so basically a dictatorship...

Is Trump gonna be a dictator?

If anything, the only dictatorship in America right now is the one held by the big corporations and big banks. (and they support who?... yes... the devil herself)

Do you ever listen to him? He's running on a platform to dictate. He's running to be the US' Putin.

 

[Avatar]

No, I don't think Donald Trump will win, because the polls show he's losing

Sums it up. It's just the disastrous possibility of a Trump presidency that makes us so anxious even if it's a low one.

I think the best one to follow is Drew Linzer, guys. Most sensible and simple coverage and most accurate poll aggregator whether in 2012 or even the messy 2014 congressional elections.

Here, this map makes the most sense with the recent polls imo. http://elections.dailykos.com/app/elections/2016/office/president

 

[cyberman]

We got a live one folks!






Two!! What a great way to celebrate the countdown to page 1000

Are you drunk? Im as anti Trump as you can get, this is like the Republicans demanding an enquiry into how racist, idiotic Hitler clones with shit hair is able to gossip about FBI cases to the masses.
Just to complete the circle of irony in this shitshow

 

[Red Defence]

The content of the leaked emails is incriminating and they're brushing it aside as if it were nothing. The whole email ordeal and her carelessness with handling top secret and classified documents on it's own is a huge deal. The contents and the daily discoveries show her to be as corrupt as politicians come. Her and her husband past is full of incidents which are infinitely worse than what Trump is being berated for in such exaggeration that it's almost comical. The media is hellbent on a Democratic triumph that it's actually scary.

Are you a Trump supporter?

 

[sullydnl]

I think peiple are reluctant to compare politicians to Nazis (or similar) as it is usually a ridiculously ott accusation to level at someone.

In Trump's case though, he actually does conform to a lot of classic neo-fascist tendencies. As Carolina Red says, you can just tick the boxes. Anyone who refuses to see those blatant similarities has their head in the sand. You literally just have to work your way through the list.

 

[Silva]

Are you drunk? Im as anti Trump as you can get, this is like the Republicans demanding an enquiry into how racist, idiotic Hitler clones with shit hair is able to gossip about FBI cases to the masses.
Just to complete the circle of irony in this shitshow

You were basically quoting a right wing talking point so it's not hard to see why people would assume that. Top US officials using private servers was pretty much par for course for a decade and a half. And those servers weren't hacked.

 

[cyberman]

It is ironic that you misspelled 'and' given that's what you kept saying on the last page.

I'm on my crappy phone and my average sized thumbs are even too butch for this keypad

 

[unchanged_lineup]

Are you a Trump supporter?

Who cares what he is, I'm looking forward to this carefully-collected research, fully verifiable and with the clear context explained.

 

[IhabX7]

Are you a Trump supporter?

Of course not. I'm against Clinton being anywhere near the white house any longer, the corrupt maniac.

 

[Charlie Foley]

I'm on my crappy phone and my average sized fingers are even too butch for this keypad

At least your hands are bigger than Trump's so!

 

[Red Defence]

Of course not. I'm against Clinton being anywhere near the white house any longer, the corrupt maniac.

Don't back him...he'll lose the election.

 

[IhabX7]

Don't back him...he'll lose the election.

And why is that?

 

[sullydnl]

Fascism:

fas·cism
ˈfaSHˌizəm/
noun
noun: fascism; noun: Fascism; plural noun: Fascisms
an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.


so basically a dictatorship...

Is Trump gonna be a dictator?

If anything, the only dictatorship in America right now is the one held by the big corporations and big banks. (and they support who?... yes... the devil herself)

No, you can have an authoritarian and nationalistic right wing government without it being a dictatorship.

 

[RedSky]

He is a disgusting man, but Hillary is on another level. They cannot be compared for what they have said and done, it's different leagues.

Neo-fascist. Donald Trump. Yea ok.

Given you seem an expert on the emails, could you point me in the direction of said emails please. Would like to give them a read and see what the days is about. Ta bud.

 

[Red Defence]

And why is that?

No reason he'll win.

 

[Raoul]

Fascism:

fas·cism
ˈfaSHˌizəm/
noun
noun: fascism; noun: Fascism; plural noun: Fascisms
an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.


so basically a dictatorship...

Is Trump gonna be a dictator?

If anything, the only dictatorship in America right now is the one held by the big corporations and big banks. (and they support who?... yes... the devil herself)

It's increasingly clear that the only candidate up for the job is Jill Stein.

 

[unchanged_lineup]

Given you seem an expert on the emails, could you point me in the direction of said emails please. Would like to give them a read and see what the days is about. Ta bud.

Hey, get in line, boss. I'm getting the collated dossier first.

 

[IhabX7]

No reason he'll win.

He won't win, I'm under no illusion that he has a chance against this well oiled machine behind Hillary.

 

[Carolina Red]

Spoiler: Warning signs of fascism

1) his campaign is built on overt, undeniable white nationalism
2) he has championed the deportation of 11 million people and that the military should commit war crimes against the families of terrorists
3) he has identified immigrants of all types as scapegoats for our nation's problems and used it to rally his white nationalist base
4) he frequently professes to "rebuild our depleted military" as part of his plan to "make America great again" (Literally a page from the Nazi German playbook)
5) I'd say the sexism is patently obvious
6) he has actually controlled the entire media narrative about this election as he has bounced from one outlandish statement to another, always keeping the narrative on whatever he has chosen to say about himself or his opponents, leading to over $3 billion in free air time, and has a stated goal to make it easier to sue press outlets that print negative things about him
7) he frequently speaks in exaggerations about national security details and plans and it is a central plank of his campaign
8) he and the GOP frequently tie Christian fundamentalism into their domestic/social policy points
9) he's a billionaire who has exploited every trick in the book, has used the campaign to fund his own enterprise, and has promised to cut corporate and top individual tax brackets while renegotiating trade deals to benefit big business
10) he's been sued dozens of times for not paying laborers, is against raising minimum wage, against healthcare initiatives that would help common laborers, and has frequently employed non-Union labor to complete projects
11) frequently discounts expert opinions on almost any and all policy positions
12) has run a campaign promising sweeping expansion of policing power as the "law and order candidate"
13) again obvious in his personal business dealings
14) has frequently attempted to discredit the American electoral process and has pushed false claims of voter fraud while simultaneously promoting voter intimidation

 

[IhabX7]

Given you seem an expert on the emails, could you point me in the direction of said emails please. Would like to give them a read and see what the days is about. Ta bud.

Go to wikileaks twitter, some of the tweets will redirect you to the full emails.

 

[IhabX7]

This is more or less where I stand on the issue.

 

[GlastonSpur]

There's also something extraordinary about claiming the Clinton's have a cover up machine when Donald is literally has limiting press freedom on his platform.

Not to mention that he hasn't given a press conference for 100 days and refuses to release his tax returns.

 

[Silva]

Trump might have the temperament of a 5 year old, might incite xenophobia on a daily basis, demean women, have a policy against allowing coloured people access to his properties, regularly refuse to pay contractors, might show complete contempt for the legal process, might want to curtail the freedom on press, might hold life long grudges against people, might have gone bankrupt half a dozen times, might be a trust fund kid who at no point in his life was surrounded by regular people, might surround himself with yes men because he can't handle being told he's wrong about anything, might want to turn NATO into a mafia-style organisation, might have zero grasp on the dangers of nuclear proliferation, or need an grasp on geopolitical realities, might even be an illiterate moron with zero attention spam. But hey, Clinton might be corrupt so, that's definitely much worse.