2016 US Presidential Elections | Trump Wins

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Oh shit! BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM! That's one of the best put-downs I think I have ever seen. Feck me, that's harsh. But, is it true? Did he really do that? If so that is some seriously low life scummy behaviour and he should be fecking ashamed. I've always tolerated Newt, thought he was one of the more bearable of the looney right wing nuts, always quite eloquent and reasonably intelligent and often felt he was arguing a point he didn't actually agree with, but if that's true, wow! Feck him.


Yes. It's true. While she was dying of cancer.

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You just have to be amazed at the chutzpah of these 'family value Christian conservatives'
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Are there any other trusted electoral college forecasters, other than 538?

I see those % chance of winning comparison tweets that people post on here sometimes, do any of those sites have EC projections too?
 
Are there any other trusted electoral college forecasters, other than 538?

I see those % chance of winning comparison tweets that people post on here sometimes, do any of those sites have EC projections too?

Sam Wang's Princeton Election Consortium is actually more accurate than 538.
 
Are there any other trusted electoral college forecasters, other than 538?

I see those % chance of winning comparison tweets that people post on here sometimes, do any of those sites have EC projections too?

NYT's Upshot (Nate Cohn), new, only started this cycle.

Larry Sabato's Crystal Ball, from UVA Centre for Politics.

Sam Wang's Princeton Election Consortium.
 
Sam Wang's Princeton Election Consortium is actually more accurate than 538.
NYT's Upshot (Nate Cohn), new, only started this cycle.

Larry Sabato's Crystal Ball, from UVA Centre for Politics.

Sam Wang's Princeton Election Consortium.
Really useful, cheers guys. Comparing them while looking at the betting markets, see a couple of interesting opportunities...
 
New copy and paste making the waves on FB... shit is comical. The fear and hatred is so deep in 1/3 of the nation.
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Imagine it is November 9, 2016 in America and we wake up knowing who our new President will be. If it is Hillary, think of the groups of people that will celebrate. Illegal Immigrants, criminals and future criminals who will be supported for pulling a gun on a police officer, planned parenthood, the media, and the list goes on and on that represent everything that is wrong with America. If you're still "with her," look around at who you'll be celebrating with. Now imagine waking up knowing that Trump is our new President. You may or may not like him, or really know what kind of president he will be. But here are some things you will know for sure:
• The Clinton Corruption is destroyed and rendered powerless.
• The media has been neutered forever.
• Career politicians will have lost all job security.
• The guns in your home will safely stay there.
• Preachers will be free to preach truth without the threat of government interference.
• Israel will have no doubt that we are truly their ally
• Iran will not get one more plane full of cash.
• No more apologies to the world for being great!
• Our enemies, most of which help fund Hillary's campaign will definitely be a little scared.
• Our healthcare rates stand a real good chance of going down.
• There is at least some hope that new manufacturing jobs will be coming back to your state.
• The drug cartel and other criminals currently crossing our borders will realize their days are numbered.
• The police will be supported so they can restore law and order.
The list could go on and on, but it sounds like America may be on the road to becoming great again within the first few hours on November 9 if Trump does win.
Copy and paste this as your status if you support and will vote Donald Trump for president 2016
What a load of horse shit, absolute fecking horse shit buddy. The idocricy is strong with this one.
 
Yes. It's true. While she was dying of cancer.

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You just have to be amazed at the chutzpah of these 'family value Christian conservatives'
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It wasn't to long ago they were evicerating Anthony Weiner for sending cock shots to other agreeing women (nothing illegal but has recently gotten a bit fecked up) but never said a peep about the Dugger lad from that conservative darling of a family. If anyone is not aware he molested his sisters and was defended by his fecked up parents because they were asleep. This guy was marked for big things in the Christian conservative fart cloud. Oh and there longest serving speaker of the house was jailed for child molestation and paying off the victims.
The party of family values has been for a long time the Democratic Party. The republicans have been a seedy bunch and are obsessed with sex to a point that recreational sex should be banned unless you are a good Christian in a cheap motel or run from you're responsibilities as state governor to go to Argentina, the home of you're mistress, leaving a wife and a bunch of young kids wondering what the feck is going on. There are a few Dems that have there own dirty scandals but they are not in the halls of government trying to legislate pussy, only republican are elected to do that. Red states have higher numbers of teen pregnancy, STD infections and porn viewership. I have had family and friends abused in many ways by the church so Christian values is nothing but dirt to me. The single mother or father working two or three jobs to make ends meet or the two parent blue collar parents spending their little time off being productive with their kids and instilling the importance of respect, kindness and critical thinking are the modern family. It's people like these that deserve a modern functioning government, not the people that don't distinguish between paedophiles and homosexuals.
 
I love this map.

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Where you getting that map from Raoul?
 
You didn't read his first line did you?
I did, sorry that wasn't for the poster but for post. We are so close to the election that I have given up being polite to what I hear or read about this joke or his supporters. Every time I am discussing the election with a trump supporter I pull that fecking phone out and destroy them with the video and words of their chosen candidate and I now refuse to be kind or understanding about it. I get the usual comeback of what about Hillary but when challenged they cant pull up anything incriminating, hell most of them don't even know what breitbart.com is yet they yell that bullshit from their shit heap.
 
Yes. It's true. While she was dying of cancer.

Aaand...



You just have to be amazed at the chutzpah of these 'family value Christian conservatives'
:lol:


:lol: Unbelievable. I remember all the stuff about his cheating and his affairs, but honestly must have missed the part about his wife dying while he filed for divorce. Obviously Fox like to keep that quiet.
 
During his decades in the real estate world, Donald Trump famously shortchangedmany small businesses on the money he owed them. The list includes companies that worked on Trump's properties or supplied him with chandeliers, pianos, marble, and other luxury touches. But Trump also tried to underpay the very same lawyers who helped him save money, and some ended up suing their former client.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/10/trump-files-time-trumps-lawyers-sued-trump
 
That AP Poll is somewhat miss leading in Hillarys favor though as they have left out Bernie Sanders. This kinda makes her look better as they put in Melania Trump instead and this is kinda ruins this poll in my opinion.
 
The longer this campaign goes on, the more and more shocked I get by what Trump says. And worse, that around 150 Million American people are buying it. Imagine this guy has a genuine chance, albeit more and more unlikely, of being the President of the US of A. The most powerful country in the world. I suppose that's what you get when the news is so polarised, when Survivor and Keeping up with the Kardashians are regarded as documentaries, when having a sex tape is more likely to bring riches than being genuinely intelligent or talented. And it's a sign of things to come for us, the UK and Ireland aren't far behind. Geordie Shore and X-Factor provide our youth with their idols these days.

Anyway, regardless of our impending extinction, the Donald has provided us with some great entertainment over the last year. Here are some of the highlights for me.

"The beauty of me is that I’m very rich."

"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."

"Robert Pattinson should not take back Kristen Stewart. She cheated on him like a dog & will do it again – just watch. He can do much better"

"Now then, I think you're body's awesome. You've got great tits. But, I'm a little concerned about your bill of health. I'm going to insist upon you using some sort of protection. I've got a dental dam in the glove compartment of my truck. You can just grab that. It's a rubber for your mouth. It's not that big of a deal, OK? And besides, it's not just for my protection. You don't know what shit I got either."

"You don't like me? Well you're the one with a fecking disability. It should be me not liking you, and yet I accept you. And you do this to me? Man, feck you, you midget."

"You know, it really doesn’t matter what the media write as long as you’ve got a young, and beautiful, piece of ass."

"One time I was invited to come to a social gathering. I was paid a hansom amount of money and I brought a shotgun and a bottle of Tanqueray and let me tell you, showed those people the best time they've ever seen. Believe me."

"It's just that we were there, and then we were... we were touching each other and then... I saw those tits, and then I started feeling your ass, and I started breathing heavy, and I almost got a headache and then my vision started to go all colorful... then I just came in my pants."

“My IQ is one of the highest — and you all know it! Please don’t feel so stupid or insecure; it’s not your fault."

"I got to tell you, I thought the blacks in Baltimore were bad, but turns out they're nothing compared to these fags you got in San Francisco."

"People often ask me, 'Donald, what are your weaknesses? Do you have any?' I would say that my biggest flaw, my achilles heel, is my tireless work ethic."

"Oh, well excuse me for being a businessman. Maybe you could learn something instead of just criticizing. Or, you know what? Just stay good at what you're doing, which is, I guess, being poor"

"If there's one thing I hate it's losing. If there's two things I hate it it's losing and getting cancer."

"Hillary, You're fecking out."
 
I'm only interested in Hillary's (un)favorability compared to Trump, and as this Joe Sonka guy claims, compared to her own numbers of the past. It would be interesting to know if Trump does better as compared to previous polls, too.
 
That AP Poll is somewhat miss leading in Hillarys favor though as they have left out Bernie Sanders. This kinda makes her look better as they put in Melania Trump instead and this is kinda ruins this poll in my opinion.
Eh?
 
That AP Poll is somewhat miss leading in Hillarys favor though as they have left out Bernie Sanders. This kinda makes her look better as they put in Melania Trump instead and this is kinda ruins this poll in my opinion.

Think you're confusing the two tweets. One tweet is of who people will vote for, which Clinton wins by 14%. The other is a favorability poll. In any case, it includes the current President, VP and First Lady, and the corresponding personnel from the running parties. I don't see where Bernie Sanders comes into that.
 

When you remove 1 major player from such a poll it will have an influence on the rest of statistics. Bernie Sanders is a major player in the democratic party and when you remove him from the poll it will make Hillarys stats better, as those would rather vote positively for Bernie Sanders cant and are forced to vote Hillary thus inflating her states which is miss leading. This can easily happen if selective polling is being done.
 
When you remove 1 major player from such a poll it will have an influence on the rest of statistics. Bernie Sanders is a major player in the democratic party and when you remove him from the poll it will make Hillarys stats better, as those would rather vote positively for Bernie Sanders cant and are forced to vote Hillary thus inflating her states which is miss leading. This can easily happen if selective polling is being done.
Sanders isn't a member of the democratic party.
 
Think you're confusing the two tweets. One tweet is of who people will vote for, which Clinton wins by 14%. The other is a favorability poll. In any case, it includes the current President, VP and First Lady, and the corresponding personnel from the running parties. I don't see where Bernie Sanders comes into that.

I´m responding to the second one poll. Yes it does matter when almost 50% of the democratic voters voted on him and prefer him as a candidate. Bernie Sanders are a major reason for the support behind Hillary isn´t more fractured ( with him in the poll she would look far less favourable ) and not taking this into account is a big problem if you want a credible poll. It dosn´t matter if hes name is on some membership card as he still ran as an Democrat.
 
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When you remove 1 major player from such a poll it will have an influence on the rest of statistics. Bernie Sanders is a major player in the democratic party and when you remove him from the poll it will make Hillarys stats better, as those would rather vote positively for Bernie Sanders cant and are forced to vote Hillary thus inflating her states which is miss leading. This can easily happen if selective polling is being done.
This is nonsense.
 
I´m responding to the second one poll. Yes it does matter when almost 50% of the democratic voters voted on him and prefer him as a candidate. Bernie Sanders are a major reason for the support behind Hillary isn´t more fractured ( with him in the poll she would look far less favourable ) and not taking this into account is a big problem if you want a credible poll. It dosn´t matter if hes name is on some membership card as he still ran as an Democrat.
Even if your claim were true - which I think it isn't - it is irrelevant for a comparison with Trump and even more so for a comparison with her previous ratings.
 
1) did he just change his immigration stance again?

2) how's that gonna stop the American citizens being radicalized?

Edit: I love how CNN keeps doing these panning shots of the whole crowd. Quite a diverse group of people there :wenger:
 
People are actually BOOING! Trumps proposals at his rallies. They don't even understand when he is slagging the Clintons, or the Democrats, or past governments or when he's actually making a statement about what he is going to do. Fecking morons.
 
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