2016 US Presidential Elections | Trump Wins

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Billy Blaggs said:
Does that indicate that the VP debate held some sway?
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It was in the field Oct 1-4, so nah.

Key take ups:

"Clinton does have an advantage on a few key metrics. More Buckeye State voters say Clinton understands the day to day concerns of people like them - 47% feel she does and 51% feel she does not - than say the same about Trump - 37% feel he does and 60% feel he does not.

Clinton has an even wider advantage on the issue of presidential temperament. Significantly more voters say Clinton has the right temperament for the job (59%) than say the same about Trump (33%)."

This is why the tax story is super damaging to him. Change is good and all but no one wants changes for the worse.
 
Oh yeah, got my dates mixed up. Still that's good for Hillary as Silver forcast will make OH slightly bluer and bump up her over all odds a bit.
 
The pleasing thing is she still has more groom to grow. Obama won OH minority voters 84-14, she's currently 73-15. Most of the undecided should eventually break her way with some campaigning.
 
InfiniteBoredom said:
"Clinton does have an advantage on a few key metrics. More Buckeye State voters say Clinton understands the day to day concerns of people like them - 47% feel she does and 51% feel she does not - than say the same about Trump - 37% feel he does and 60% feel he does not.
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This detail was the same in one of the other polls last week. It seemed a bit surprising from the point of view of Trump's "look at how many people are at my rally, I don't work for Trump any more, I work for you" anti-establishment schtick of his, but here we are - similar sentiment repeated again.
 
Monmouth are my comfort blanket.
 
The Donald doesn't handle pressure well, the townhall on Sunday could and should be a massacre. The last 2 weeks have been so bad for him that the CNN manufactured Bill's ACA scandal couldn't gain any traction.
 
Didn't Trump do well at the Town Hall style debates in the Primaries? Or am I thinking of the seemingly endless Town Hall style interviews he had on Fox?
 
Was bored so I did this useless shit. Nothing scientific about the last column; just where I think the current averaging of these numbers are.

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Monmouth's Ohio poll not included.
 
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But Trump is not a man of ideas. He is a demagogue, a xenophobe, a sexist, a know-nothing, and a liar. He is spectacularly unfit for office, and voters—the statesmen and thinkers of the ballot box—should act in defense of American democracy and elect his opponent.
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True.
 
InfiniteBoredom said:
One of, if not the last bastion of journalism in the US

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"In its founding statement, The Atlantic promised that it would be “the organ of no party or clique,” and our interest here is not to advance the prospects of the Democratic Party, nor to damage those of the Republican Party. If Hillary Clinton were facing Mitt Romney, or John McCain, or George W. Bush, or, for that matter, any of the leading candidates Trump vanquished in the Republican primaries, we would not have contemplated making this endorsement. We believe in American democracy, in which individuals from various parties of different ideological stripes can advance their ideas and compete for the affection of voters. But Trump is not a man of ideas. He is a demagogue, a xenophobe, a sexist, a know-nothing, and a liar. He is spectacularly unfit for office, and voters—the statesmen and thinkers of the ballot box—should act in defense of American democracy and elect his opponent."

The last paragraph from that article is some of the most powerful political prose I have read in a long time.
 
so they believe in democracy but only if it goes their way? lame...

You have to admit, its funny seeing the establishment going bananas.

it should say:
"The Atlantic has endorsed three times in the name of defending American establishment. 1860, 1964, and now in 2016."
 
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George Owen said:
so they believe in democracy but only if it goes their way? lame...

You have to admit, its funny seeing the establishment going bananas.

it should say:
"The Atlantic has endorsed three times in the name of defending American establishment. 1860, 1964, and now in 2016."
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...uwotm8
 
The Atlantic said:
He is a demagogue, a xenophobe, a sexist, a know-nothing, and a liar. He is spectacularly unfit for office
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Trump responds: "Yeah, well your mom's fat."
 
Buzzfeed bringing it again...
https://www.buzzfeed.com/kendalltag...ruptcy-filings?utm_term=.ilQzlo525#.auAJrR0g0
The documents provide a glimpse into Trump’s business tactics. “He was a brutal and ruthless negotiator,” Bryant Simon, professor at Temple University and author of Boardwalk of Dreams: Atlantic City and the Fate of Urban America, told the Washington Post. “People paid the price.”

The Post reported that, in the Taj Mahal Casino bankruptcy, large institutions took the biggest losses, but “many small-time investors who had bought the bonds, directly or through retirement funds, also suffered losses … so did the small-business owners who sold Trump paint, equipment, food, limousine services, and much more. Many were eventually paid only a fraction of what they were due.”

A New York Times review of the court records, as well as other filings, found that despite his claims to the contrary, there is “little doubt that Mr. Trump’s casino business was a protracted failure.”

Trump has touted his bankruptcies as a savvy business move.

“Don’t forget, I’m the king of debt, I love debt,” he told Wolf Blitzer of CNN in May.

Tim L. O’Brien, executive editor at Bloomberg View and author of TrumpNation: The Art of Being The Donald, reported that Trump had a very different view of bankruptcy a decade ago. He “told me that he wanted to avoid bankruptcy at all costs because he felt that it would permanently taint him as a failure or a quitter,” O’Brien wrote.
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