I can't wait for these cnuts to come to CA. I'm definitely going to some rallies for the lolz.
2016 US Presidential Elections | Trump Wins
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I kind of want Trump to win the nomination after all this crap. You can't try to put a man down like that.
Him going to the convention helps Hillary, assuming she will be the nominee. Here is how.
She adopts some if not all of his policies, thus unifying the Democratic party.
Bernie raising her hand may bring some into the fold but not all. Many will stay away. (This will not help the down ballot either)Some will vote Trump out of anger.
She could lose this election. That is a realty.
Trump went from Senator Cruz to Lyin' Ted today. Not so presidential now eh?
If nothing else it will be pure (cringeworthy) entertainment to see him debate Hillary one on one
That said the risk of him winning is quite a frightening thought
he is being factual though.
Does it matter? He did try and put on a show after New York by calling him 'Senator Cruz' and becoming all presidential. He has either become presidential or not.
Why do you have to defend the Orange one all the time?
Does it matter? He did try and put on a show after New York by calling him 'Senator Cruz' and becoming all presidential. He has either become presidential or not.
Why do you have to defend the Orange one all the time?
shallow analysis.
To most its a laugh and they know it is true. Its not going to turn one vote away.
Yes, it will. Anti Trump movement is because he's childish and he's a bit of a dick.
How on Earth is it justified to ask for that when she'll have beaten him by a very large amount? 3m votes+, 300 pledged delegates+? Bernie isn't the kingmaker here, he's lost. If he wants to heighten Trump's chances of winning he can do that on his conscience.
I agree he is all of the above, but it appears that his voters aren't really put off by this sort of thing.
Trump has his fanbase/voter base who are not put off by anything. If he wants to be the nominee, he needs up to 50% of the Republican votes, who will be put off by this sort of thing.
To win the election??
Reality???
What you don't understand is people who voted/vote for Bernie do so because they believe in his policies. They are not his followers.
Elections are about what candidates offer. Its that simple.
I think you are fighting a lost cause here. The amount of times Red Dreams has pivoted back to 'Trump may win the election' at the smallest of excuses are more than LvG playing players out of position.
The anti-trumps voters are not going to vote for him because he stopped saying Lyin' Ted. In fact it may turn off some of his supporters if he flipped to being an 'establishment' candidate
are you saying it is impossible for him to win the election?
Yeah, and millions more people voted for Hillary's policies. Not sure in what logic you'd abandon the more popular programme the loser's.
You are not addressing the reality.
This is not a horse race.
Sure she could win the election sticking to her guns. But she may not.
If her goal is to unify the party, she will need to concede that a significant amount of people chose an independent candidate over her.
The sheer irony.
Why is it just up to her to unify the party? Why doesn't the guy who lost have to contribute to it? Maybe he should concede that a majority of people chose an establishment, moderate candidate over him and do his best to prevent a xenophobic narcissist becoming the executive of the country. I'm quite convinced that, unlike some of his supporters, Bernie can't stand the idea of a Trump presidency and is ashamed of those that can, so will do the right thing.
You don't get it Ubik.
And as the Don would tell you he's not a bit of a dick... Oh no he has no problems there... In fact he is a massive dick... Huge in fact just huge like the wall will be and who is paying for it... Yes that's right the rapists... And we are gonna make murica so great again I tell you... Just great.... USA USA USA... so when lyin fish fingers says a bit of a dick just remember.
MASSIVE DICK
And presumably you still think Trump wants progressive taxation.
honestly I do not know.
I know he has been far from revealing about what he really wants to do. Remember he is running in a Republican primary.
As Raoul has pointed out and I tend to agree to a point...He is not your run of the mill republican. He is at worst a North Eastern Republican.
And my leg pulling aside, I would not be voting for him, because I do not know the type of Supreme Court judge he will nominate.
But the fact I'm so reluctant to vote for Hillary is a testament of how damaged a candidate I believe she is.
Whether you agree or not is irrelevant.
He's already said he will prefer Hillary to Trump.
But I don't think many voters if his will follow his lead if she shows no sign of change in platform.
For Wall Street, it's 2 people with negative rhetoric but actions that contradict it (like Trump's tax plan).
For poor Americans, it's someone who might defend them from a GOP Congress or throw them under the bus (like with her husband's social security proposals) vs someone couldn't care less.
For the rest of the world, it's the certainty of an invasion or two vs the uncertainty of a insecure lunatic with nukes.
For feminists, it's the chance to see history being made vs the chance to see a century of gains symbolically reversed.
On campaign finance, it's 2 people with similar rhetoric but 1 person who has mastered the system.
For civil liberties, it's the devil and the deep blue sea.
As for me, I'll be negatively affected by the xenophobia of Trump's candidacy, but if Hillary manages a budget deal, I'll be scared for my career (which is obviously screwed if Trump gets in)
Are you intentionally being obtuse here?
are you?
Don't worry folks...Bernie will come around and endorse her, but not until he ratchets up the pressure a bit more so he can buy himself a bit of leverage at the convention.
Red Dreams is arguing with a bunch of people.
Ironically one of the few things he's been factual about.
Bernie has said he will endorse her if she agree to the Medicare For All platform.
Whether he stand by that or not I don't know. But it is not up to him how his voters will vote in the GE.
Trump has been factual about a number of things when he has called out Jeb for example.. ...but he has been extremely insulting in how he has done it. Personally I have enjoyed it though.
Ha. That wont work. She is pro-Obama care and won't agree to anything that destabilizes it.
you are probably right. But the fact he has put his stake there tells me its going to very hard to 'unite'.
Its going to be a fun couple of conventions.
may be better than the Euros and the Olympics
Yea, closed Primary, but not as bad as NY. You can register till April 21, and if you are doing it in person, you can actually register till 25th April (today noon)
Hopefully, that works out for Bernie supporters who are registering late.
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It's also disingenious to write that the current polls are a rejection of his policies in favour of centrism.
A lot of polling has shown that she is favour because of "commander-in-chief"-ness/experience, winnability, and name recognition. Going policy-by-policy, he wins among the US public and thus the Dems too.
It's also disingenious to write that the current polls are a rejection of his policies in favour of centrism.
A lot of polling has shown that she is favour because of "commander-in-chief"-ness/experience, winnability, and name recognition. Going policy-by-policy, he wins among the US public and thus the Dems too.
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Agree with most of this. Also, it puts her on TV, otherwise the media would be completely focused on GOP.
However, she is not losing this against Trump in a million years.
Agree with most of this. Also, it puts her on TV, otherwise the media would be completely focused on GOP.
However, she is not losing this against Trump in a million years.
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