2016 US Presidential Elections | Trump Wins

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Ben Carson being so high on that list makes me think it's not all it's cracked up to be.
 
Ben Carson being so high on that list makes me think it's not all it's cracked up to be.

This is just based on my perception but he didn't really seem like an establishment backed candidate that would draw a lot of large donations, so his spot on that list makes sense to me. With that being said I didn't do much research (ie where he was receiving money from) after learning where he stood on a number of issues as it was very obvious he was not the candidate for me. Honestly I'm a bit surprised at Trump's position on that list, thought he would be getting a larger percentage of smaller donations based on the frustrated feeling he has tapped into regarding the present political situation in America.
 
I'm definitely feeling the Bern tonight.

His points have gravity, substance and are real. You can tell he believes in what he is saying.
He is really detailing how he would pay for the proposals he has made.

TBF Hillary is trying to pivot.
I have to add her answer about her superpac was BS. She actually said it wasn't her superpac..they "just decided to support her".
 
Keith Ellison is co-chair of the Progressive Caucus. He is also a member of the Congressional Black Cacus (CBC). Ellison has endorsed Sanders.

He is saying the membership of the CBC (including himself) have not endorsed Hillary. Only the CBC Political Action Commitee.
Does anybody here speak Jive?
 
My stream keeps dying just when Sanders is about to speak on a make-or-break point. Irritating.

EDIT: My net recovered moments after the debate got over, every page was taking years to open before. Either everyone in the area was watching the Dem debate online (though my area is mostly students from India and China) or this is a wall-street led conspiracy, with Time Waner feeling the Bern :p
 
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After Clinton attacked Sanders for not supporting Obama, Sander's response was:

"One of us ran against Obama, I was not that person."

FEEL THE BERN
 
Hillary will win this state.

Why d'you think so? Sanders is at 40+ points in the polls (the gap is about 10-15 maybe) without any campaign; it's a very white state. Seems exactly like his territory.
If you're referring to the audience, I'm not sure they are representative. From (the very very little) that I saw, they seemed to be mostly old - and there Hillary holds her lead.
 
That debate setting was clearly stacked with Hillary voters... A quick pan of the crowd showed that it wasnt exactly the kind of demo you'd expect at a university.

http://fox6now.com/2016/02/10/a-big...nside-helen-bader-concert-hall-during-debate/

Moderators didn't seem that much better either, at times. They were whispering while he was talking a lot of time, not least like in this example:



I know I'm not the only one who hears an "oh god" there when he brings up Kissinger and Vietnam.
 
The campaign of Senator Ted Cruz of Texas released a biting negative ad against Senator Marco Rubio of Florida on Thursday, featuring a mock focus group and a woman decrying Mr. Rubio as nothing more than a “pretty face.”

Few will see that ad, however. The woman who made the comment in the ad is a soft-core pornography actress.

The woman, Amy Lindsay, as first reported by BuzzFeed, has appeared in multiple movies with titles like “Carnal Wishes,” “Insatiable Desires” and “Private Sex Club.” Ms. Lindsay told BuzzFeed that she was a Christian conservative and a Republican, deciding between supporting Mr. Cruz or Donald J. Trump.

The Cruz campaign pulled the ad soon after the report on Thursday.

“The actress responded to an open casting call,” said Catherine Frazier, a spokeswoman for the Cruz campaign. “She passed her audition and got the job. Unfortunately, she was not vetted by the casting company. Had the campaign known of her full filmography, we obviously would not have let her appear in the ad. The campaign is taking the ad down and will replace it with a different commercial.”

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I know I'm not the only one who hears an "oh god" there when he brings up Kissinger and Vietnam.

Maybe she did, maybe she felt a sneeze coming. Honestly I wouldn't jump to conclusions. Just let Kissinger's record speak for itself :angel:
 
Why don't the Bernie people prep him with more stats and numbers?

Like they're saying on CNN, he got called out on his healthcare promises...yet he refused to work out the numbers time and time again.

Still think he lacks substance when it comes to some of his policies(potentially very good policies)
 
Maybe she did, maybe she felt a sneeze coming. Honestly I wouldn't jump to conclusions. Just let Kissinger's record speak for itself :angel:

Yeah, just wondering if anybody else did a double take on that.

Why don't the Bernie people prep him with more stats and numbers?

Like they're saying on CNN, he got called out on his healthcare promises...yet he refused to work out the numbers time and time again.

Still think he lacks substance when it comes to some of his policies(potentially very good policies)

Check his website, dude. There's plenty of substance there. A lot more than what Hillary's put forward.
 
Yeah, just wondering if anybody else did a double take on that.



Check his website, dude. There's plenty of substance there. A lot more than what Hillary's put forward.

I'm coming from the perspective of the debate and what people take away from that.

Hillary attacked him again and again on his healthcare policy and he didn't state what the overall cost would be...instead saying, healthcare is a right not a privilege.

Again, that got applause and sounds good....but it doesn't answer the question.
 
God, Hilary Clinton is an


http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/wisconsin-democratic/

If you look at the trends, Bernie has been closing the gap massively. The last poll was Jan 21 where her lead was just 2%. With Bernie's momentum, I can easily see him overtaking her.

Why d'you think so? Sanders is at 40+ points in the polls (the gap is about 10-15 maybe) without any campaign; it's a very white state. Seems exactly like his territory.
If you're referring to the audience, I'm not sure they are representative. From (the very very little) that I saw, they seemed to be mostly old - and there Hillary holds her lead.

Either we have a lot of Bernie fans here or am I the only one who thought Clinton performed well in the debate?

She went after Sanders on how he manages to promises on Healthcare and his promises on free college especially with state governors like Scott Walker. His answer was evasive and again reverted to his stump speech about 'right to healthcare' and 'look at other countries' and 'Wall Street'. She did well again in foreign policy (not surprising) and played up to the African American voters by closely tying herself to Obama and surprisingly managed to look endearing to women.

I thought 'You aren't there in the White house yet' was a bit of an off moment for Bernie. I didn't think of it that much, but reading tweet reactions, others thought about it too.

I thought she was leading in the state. I'm no fan of Hillary though, glad to see Sanders win here and everywhere.
 
Either we have a lot of Bernie fans here or am I the only one who thought Clinton performed well in the debate?

She went after Sanders on how he manages to promises on Healthcare and his promises on free college especially with state governors like Scott Walker. His answer was evasive and again reverted to his stump speech about 'right to healthcare' and 'look at other countries' and 'Wall Street'. She did well again in foreign policy (not surprising) and played up to the African American voters by closely tying herself to Obama and surprisingly managed to look endearing to women.

I thought 'You aren't there in the White house yet' was a bit of an off moment for Bernie. I didn't think of it that much, but reading tweet reactions, others thought about it too.

I thought she was leading in the state. I'm no fan of Hillary though, glad to see Sanders win here and everywhere.


My connection kept going but I feel he could have done better at many points. He has published the costing of his healthcare plan, and spoken about it. He could have done that here too without needing to go back to his core speech.

I'm just not sure how much the debate affects votes, and his numbers in the state are evidently better than I thought.
 
Sanders needs to take more direct hits at Clinton if anything. Maybe bit like Obama did.

She went after him more this time and he reacted.
 
After Clinton attacked Sanders for not supporting Obama, Sander's response was:

"One of us ran against Obama, I was not that person."

FEEL THE BERN
That's all very well, except that she ran against him before he was president when they were both senators. Since he was elected she has been loyal and served as secretary of state for 4 years. The thing is to support the leader, which she has done, more so than Sanders.
 
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Anyone know if this is true? t work so cant access youtube

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Either we have a lot of Bernie fans here or am I the only one who thought Clinton performed well in the debate?

She went after Sanders on how he manages to promises on Healthcare and his promises on free college especially with state governors like Scott Walker. His answer was evasive and again reverted to his stump speech about 'right to healthcare' and 'look at other countries' and 'Wall Street'. She did well again in foreign policy (not surprising) and played up to the African American voters by closely tying herself to Obama and surprisingly managed to look endearing to women.

I thought 'You aren't there in the White house yet' was a bit of an off moment for Bernie. I didn't think of it that much, but reading tweet reactions, others thought about it too.

I thought she was leading in the state. I'm no fan of Hillary though, glad to see Sanders win here and everywhere.

She did perform well, although there were a couple of low blows from both sides. Her best moments were at the beginning when she questioned his free everything policies.
 
Either we have a lot of Bernie fans here or am I the only one who thought Clinton performed well in the debate?

She went after Sanders on how he manages to promises on Healthcare and his promises on free college especially with state governors like Scott Walker. His answer was evasive and again reverted to his stump speech about 'right to healthcare' and 'look at other countries' and 'Wall Street'. She did well again in foreign policy (not surprising) and played up to the African American voters by closely tying herself to Obama and surprisingly managed to look endearing to women.

I thought 'You aren't there in the White house yet' was a bit of an off moment for Bernie. I didn't think of it that much, but reading tweet reactions, others thought about it too.

I thought she was leading in the state. I'm no fan of Hillary though, glad to see Sanders win here and everywhere.


I think Hillary did perform well, but every time she answers it seems like its off a script. I get the impression that she really rehearses her talking points.
Bernie talks from the heart and says what he believes. He needs to start hitting her as hard as she is hitting him.

The room was also stacked with Hillary supporters. Her answer on why she had a superpac was insulting to the intelligence.
 
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