All Spurs can do is keep winning matches to keep the pressure on Chelsea to do the same. Our injuries are mounting up though which is a big worry. Chelsea are very strong favourites to win the title obviously but it is pleasing to see us keep on trying to catch them. We are a better team than last season.
2016/2017 Title race
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I agree. But things will still get interesting if the gap narrows to 4 points after the next round of fixtures, which is reasonably possible.
Spurs could win out, Chelsea lose 2 more matches and Chelsea would still win the title.
In other words, it's over. Today changed nothing.
In other words, it's over. Today changed nothing.
Yup
Could always hope. It's not over until it's over of course, would be fun if Chelsea had to sweat for it at the very least.
Considering Spurs had to deal with European football...7 point gap is pretty small. Spurs look like they have the better fixtures too, would be good if City beat Chelsea on Wednesday
Yup
Could always hope. It's not over until it's over of course, would be fun if Chelsea had to sweat for it at the very least.
I'll start sweating about Spurs winning the title when they are 4 points clear with 1 game left. Even then, they'd find a way to spurs it up.
If City beat Chelsea I will believe it's possible, they'd also need us to beat Chelsea as well.
If Chelsea end up losing the league, it will go down as the worst bottle job in the history of the PL surely.
I wonder what people will have to say about Conte then.
I wonder what people will have to say about Conte then.
Nah, Newcastle in 1996 were 12 points clear at one point. That'll never be beaten.
United to city with 8 points in 6 games? Losing from ahead is not always a bottle job.
Did you feel the same about Ferguson as you would if conte.
SAF really did bottle that season. Difference is there is a chance Conte wouldn't survive to bounce back next season if Chelsea happens to lose the league this season. His PL journey would have come to an end there since the big teams won't likely to go for him as it is. Doesn't seem like happening though given the trailing team is Tottenham & their squad just lack the depth, and cutting edge that City had with Aguero, Yaya Toure, and David Silva.
That's my point. You didn't bottle it, it was taken away from you by our fantastic finish. If Spurs were to overhaul Chelsea winning every game I wouldn't call it a bottle job. were Chelsea to lose to city and United plus drop points in one more game it would be hard to say they fell apart.
I disagree. SAF bottled it. Completely outplayed by Wigan & throwing 2 points vs Everton with healthy lead at OT were inexcusable. Chelsea didn't have to play in Europe this season. Had healthy point gap for most part, but losing the league in the end would be a bottle job. City & us need result while Chelsea get 2 points out of those 2 games is still alright.
I suppose you only took 9 points from your last 6 games but considering one of those was an on form City at the Etihad than it could realistically ye took 10 of maybe 15 expected points. Not exactly title winning form but I thought the Everton game was your only clanger in the run in although it was a major clanger. Sometimes I think the team that goes on the phenomenal run to win it deserve the credit as opposed to criticising the team who drop a couple of points in the run in.
If Spurs were to overhaul Chelsea they would need to finish the season with 13 wins in a row. Its hard to blast the other team if the winner did that, considering it would match Chelsea's fantastic run earlier in the season.
That said were Spurs to win the title with say another 20 points and Chelsea dropped something crazy like 16 or 17 points then I'd call it a bottle job.
If Chelsea do implode as youve been telling us since Xmas then I would have to admit you are a genius or a time traveller, BTW what was your prediction about
United finishing at least second . Has jose bottled it or have you?
Chelsea were great today from the highlights that I saw, but could not finish. I believe that Diego Costa is already in China mentally and he is just going through the motions till seasons end. Good riddance to him.
You guys did well on your end, especially the Manchester derby to grasp it back into your hand. However, it's clear for everyone to see the Everton game after the healthy lead we established in game, & completely letting Wigan outplay us, I repeat is inexcusable. It's not a narrow win Wigan got. They outplayed us.
In title race a little than 1 win (3 points) in latter stage is considered a good cushion. 6+ point gap is healthy gap. You can draw 3 games and still win it. Throwing that away would deserve bottle job, no doubt. A team who did well to overcome the point gap = really deserve it, so we call that champion. 2 sides of the same coin. L'pool in Moyes' season only needs 2 bad results ( a little over a win, 3+ point) to bottle it, while they had title winning form since around New Year.
Dropping 16 or 17 points would be called complete collapse, instead.
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The 8 point lead blown to City was worse. Chelsea wont blow it anyway, its firmly in their grasp still
what is the league title scenario now? i know before today Chelsea could afford 3-4 losses and still win the league even if Spurs won every game (providing Chelsea won a few too)
Chelsea having to play City and us in the space of a few weeks looks a little more daunting after that
Not that I think it will happen, but if Spurs somehow won all their games then I don't think you can necessarily call it a bottle job if Chelsea lose one and draw 2.
2 sides of same coin: Tottenham would be well deserve champion; Chelsea is well deserve being called bottler it & this CP game is one of those games where it would be looked back. They should at least pick up 1 point. Conceding 2 quick goals after taking the lead before 10 minutes, is disappointing. Remember Chelsea didn't play in Europe all season. They have the best schedule during Christmas & New Year period, too.
As I explained in my previous post, 4+ points is one hell of the gap in late stage of the season. 6+ points plus is pretty safe. You can go into 2 games looking for draws. Chelsea had 10 points gap before this matchday. That's 4 draws.
As I explained in my previous post, 4+ points is one hell of the gap in late stage of the season. 6+ points plus is pretty safe. You can go into 2 games looking for draws. Chelsea had 10 points gap before this matchday. That's 4 draws.
I just looked at this thought that Chelsea are still fine unless City win these 2 games in London vs. Arsenal & Chelsea which opens things right up, relatively speaking.
If Chelsea beat City on Wednesday, (is it?). It looks like it really is all over, for me, Clive.
If Chelsea beat City on Wednesday, (is it?). It looks like it really is all over, for me, Clive.
All we need to do is beat City on Wednesday at home. Only other match I'd worry about would be against Everton. I'm not even worried about the United game because Jose knows he has to attack us since he's playing at Old Trafford and he needs the 3 points. I'd be worried if United decided to sit back. I think Koeman will want to prove something against Conte since he got pasted 5-0 last time around. That'll be a tough game. Lukaku too will also want to put on a show. We'll see how that pans out. But again, win on Wednesday and that's it for me. The point of building up a healthy lead was always to be able to afford unexpected losses like yesterday's were we did everything right but it just didn't end up in the back of the net.
Did enough to win the game but it was just one of those days and Palace are in a good space at the moment. Costa had enough chances created for him to score a wasteful hattrick. He looks gone mentally.
If Chelsea lose against City and United things will get tasty as long as Spurs keep racking up points.
The year we blew an 8 point lead could have been reasonably described as a "bottle job" if we didn't pre-emptively make up for it with 13 PL titles. If you win 13 titles you are allowed to "bottle" once. Thus, Fergie won't be remembered as a "bottler". On the other hand, Kevin Keegan, lol. If Conte doesn't win it this season he may never get a better chance. So he could very well be remembered as the Italian Keegan. He is under pressure to deliver the PL title, no doubt about it. The difference between Fergie and Keegan is that one is a winner, the other is a bottler. End of story.
Who mentioned Kevin Keegan, also Conte has won league titles with Juve, so why would you label him a bottler. The following season had nothing to do with the one you lost, which I wouldn't call a bottle job anyway.
Bottling one season if Chelsea do throw the league away will hardly change Conte's rep.
You're so desperate to paint Conte as rubbish with every opportunity you get, it's almost sad. Weird mix of jealousy and obsession. Italian Keegan
3 straight titles with Juventus including an unbeaten season only to be called the Italian Keegan by some obsessed lad on a forum Must be nice being allowed to WUM as you please.
City draw today puts them out of the race i reckon. And defend like they did at times today and theyll get beat Wednesday. yesterday for Chelsea was a freak one off, any other day they score 5 or 6.
I still cant see them throwing it away, i dont think theyll lose on Weds, and i dont think Bournemouth will beat them Saturday
I still cant see them throwing it away, i dont think theyll lose on Weds, and i dont think Bournemouth will beat them Saturday
Pedro did well at RWB. Can't fault his performance apart from that heavy clearance that led to Zaha's goal. But having Pedro at RWB meant there was no Pedro at RF which meant we missed his ruthless finishing in the box and that extra threat. Think Conte should have started with Willian at RWB and Pedro at RF but that's in hindsight. We need Moses back to fill his role. Pedro is needed up front. Especially since Costa decided to throw away what should have been an easy hattrick game for him.Yes but please not Pedro at RWB..............
Sir Alex lost it because he decided to rest Scholes against Wigan away, he should have started him and controlled the game. If we'd have won or drawn that match, we'd have won the league.
If City beat them, the race is wide open. Forget the points, it's about the mentality. Chelsea have been in cruise control all season and a defeat against City would seriously bring doubt into the squad.
Sure but this is not Liverpool or Tottenham. It's a team of serial winners and some very experienced heads. I'm not saying it's impossible to lose the race. But if that happens it won't be because of a weak mentality after two defeats.
BB, I agree
Chelsea's inability to keep a clean sheet in recent weeks will be a concern to Conte.
They have enough experience and knowhow to get over the line. And I think they will.
They have enough experience and knowhow to get over the line. And I think they will.
While you're right, the pressure on Chelsea has just increased in what was already going to be a very tough game against City. Chelsea have some pretty difficult fixtures coming up and that's not good when the pressure is on.