nah it isnt. Youll still win it. You can afford 4 defeats almost, while everyone else must win all theirs. ITs not likely
2016/2017 Title race
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I know its the wrong thread but i have to say it again. David Luiz was immense, he is actually top drawer this season and i laughed when they re signed him
Why do Chelsea need to lose 4 games for City to take over in first place? 3 losses or 2 losses + 1 draw will see their lead over City completely disappear.
Chelsea's position, while strong, is hardly unassailable. Two defeats and a draw - that's entirely within the realm of possibility. Their fixtures after the next five games look like an absolute nightmare.
3 losses City go 1 clear if they win all theirs. 2 losses and a draw and Chelsea are still 1 clear, provided city win all theirs.
Then City need to keep winning all their games in theory, while Chelsea lose/draw continuously.
Chelsea will not be losing to swansea home, west ham away, and watford home.
Its the same as the stuff about "wait until they play at Anfield and Arsenal home, then we will see the gap drop." There is too much relying on Chelsea massively, and i mean massively, fecking up
That's the thing though...they've got good fixtures in the next five games which allows them to either maintain or extend their lead. Your presumption assumes that City will continue to win their games, which is hardly guaranteed.
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'Title Race'.
Sure, but honestly, I think that Utd away and City home are quite a different proposition from Liverpool away and Arsenal home, wouldn't you agree?
They were lucky that they visited Anfield in the middle of a horrendous meltdown on Liverpool's part. However in the end they were unlucky not to win the game, as Costa bottled the penalty. That said, they may have lost that fixture if it was played a few months ago.
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Technically you would be looking at 18 teams as you can't turn to yourself and say you're back.
I know it's a stupid argument, but I am trying to be funny
For a start, city have a much easier run after Chelsea away. Also, when they get fecked from CL they will be vicious in the PL.
I wouldn't call Everton away easy by any measure. Lukaku is nailed on to have a blinder against us to further impress Abrahmovich. Then we will have an away game to Pulis in hunt for european spot (and same for southampton). Needless to say the teams involved in relegation battles (Borough, Sunderland etc.) will be looking to bite us in the ass too.
We need to have it nearly wrapped up before playing City by being 8-10 points ahead at that stage.
Well yes...but if they don't win their games against Arsenal and Liverpool before then (which is more than possible) they could easily be 10+ points behind heading into the Chelsea game, which Chelsea will be favourites to win.
Agree with that. If Chelsea are 10 points ahead with 8 games to go, the hopefuls might just start to give up.
Everton away isn't an easy game ever, but its the kind of game that most teams can expect to have with 13 games remaining. If you're considering the top 6 as hard, the next group (Everton/Southampton/West Brom etc) hard, and the relagation battlers as hard, then that doesn't really leave many teams left.
Contrast our run in to Man City's, they still have Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and United to play PLUS potential stumbles at Stoke, Southampton and West Brom. Plus Sunderland and Hull if you want to worry about relegation battlers too.
I think Man City could still win this, I hope so!
Yeah, in an ideal world I would have the run-in games against team wo have nothing to play for like Watford, Burnley, Stoke etc.Everton away isn't an easy game ever, but its the kind of game that most teams can expect to have with 13 games remaining. If you're considering the top 6 as hard, the next group (Everton/Southampton/West Brom etc) hard, and the relagation battlers as hard, then that doesn't really leave many teams left.
Contrast our run in to Man City's, they still have Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and United to play PLUS potential stumbles at Stoke, Southampton and West Brom. Plus Sunderland and Hull if you want to worry about relegation battlers too.
In that sense, city have an easier run compared to us. As you say, their tough games come in the next 5 and that is when we should pull away (or in the very least protect our lead).
And what is an easier fixture list at this time of the season? There isnt one..... especially with European matches back on the agenda. Plus wouldnt you rather be level or just behind?
As I see it, Chelsea moved 1 point closer to the title with other top 6 contenders running out of games to catch them up
Your maths is off. If City win tonight, they are 8 points behind. Chelsea lose 2 and draw 1 and that's 8 points dropped, so Chelsea would not be "still 1 clear".
Also, Chelsea do not need to lose/draw continuously. They simply need to lose three games, and from that point onwards they can win all their games and will still lose the title if City win all theirs. If City drop points, Chelsea can drop some more points.
It seems Chelsea will win it, but in reality all that needs to happen is for Chelsea to lose to City, and then it's game on.
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Regardless, i dont think theyll lose it now. They have a fairly comfortable lead and the remaining games get fewer and fewer.
Agree City and Utd currently different propositions. But i dont think City will win at SB
Chelsea-Swansea could be tricky at this point. Drop points here and who knows.
I know we've seen the top 6 mini-table before, but the other side is interesting.
Chelsea's record against the small teams is incredible. I know they drew last night but even so, I'd take it all day long.
Their points are almost identical to what many of us said... too many variables and just wont happen
I don't either, but I don't rule it out. The big test for Chelsea recently was away to Spurs and they bottled that didn't they. We'll find out whether they have league-winning mentality when we go there and (hopefully) the pressure is on.
City would have CL football soon & their opponent is arguably in form. Chelsea without European football with this kind of point gap is very safe. So no, nothing has changed even though your team is 1 point closer from second place since the last round.
City need to keep on winning and beat Chelsea. That would make it a minimum of 5 points to make up. 5 points are not hard to make up when you have momentum.
If City win the league, it would hurt me almost as much as 11/12. Simply cos we should have won a majority of the games we drew.
Not much more than a couple of weeks back Chelsea had a lead of 8 points in the title race and most were saying things look really good for them.
Fast forward to present day and they still have a lead of 8 points but the difference is that the "rivals" have a couple of matches less to catch up.
media and posters trying to make something out of nothing and looking their hardest to find any shred of hope to make the title race seem interesting and back on
Fast forward to present day and they still have a lead of 8 points but the difference is that the "rivals" have a couple of matches less to catch up.
media and posters trying to make something out of nothing and looking their hardest to find any shred of hope to make the title race seem interesting and back on
Didn't I read this post before? I'm getting weird word for word déjà vu.
well I dont think I have sent it twice
Find out if we have league-winning mentality? Mate, we've won the title more recently than your lot. What are you on about?
Actually a few weeks ago they were 9 points ahead of the nearest contender and now it has been reduced to 8 points. Yes it is only one point but it shows that they hardly have an iron-fisted grip on the title. It is completely possible for a lead of 8 points to be eroded, with just 2 defeats and 1 draw. They have to play against City and us. It's entirely possible.
City's 6 games leading up to the Chelsea match: Monaco - CL (H), Sunderland (A), Stoke City (H), Monaco - CL (A), Liverpool (H), Arsenal (A).
Chelsea's 5 games leading up tot he City match: Swansea (H), West Ham (A), Watford (H), Stoke City (A), Crystal Palace (H)
I left out the FA Cup matches as those are easy wins and fatigue won't play a factor.
City have to play an in form Monaco 4 days after a tricky Stoke fixture AND then they have to play Liverpool after the Monaco match. Depending on how the Monaco tie turns out, they could end up losing to Liverpool. They also have to play Arsenal at the Emirates after that. City could be well and truly out of the picture before they have to come to the Bridge to face us.
The only real tricky fixture for us is Stoke away. Granted Swansea have been playing much better since Paul Clement took over but I see no reason why we can't beat them at home.
With each match that passes by, the possibility of catching us becomes thinner and thinner. If we're 10 points ahead going into the City game, you'd probably still be going on about how "well if they lose their last 3 and draw another then they can be caught, it's not settled!". Problem is, the City game is our 30th of the season. After that, there'll be 8 games left and we don't play United until matchday 34. By this point, if we're still 8-10 points ahead, the rest of the chasing pack would need us to throw away pretty much the rest of our season to win the title. Wishful thinking.
I haven't even mentioned that if City beat Monaco, then that gives them more games to play and gives us even more advantage.
It'll take the combination of a historic Chelsea meltdown and a historic City/(anyone else) run for us to NOT win the title.
I know you're a troll and you enjoy pissing about on this forum. I'm posting it for anyone else whom you may have fooled.
Oh and there are 11 games left of top 6 teams playing each other. Chelsea are only involved in 2. The other teams play 3-4 times. They will drop points among themselves. Advantage Chelsea.
If City smash Monaco at home 3 or 4 nil then the second game will become a non issue. Stoke at home is probably the easiest game this season. That brings them down to beating liverpool at home with a well rested squad. The only real chance of city dropping points before facing us is at arsenal.
As for Chelsea's next 5 games, we are sure to drop points at westham. But we need to make sure that we win the other 4 games. If we dont have 13 points from the next 5 games things are sure to become tight. Especially, given our next 8 games where we may drop up to 10-12 points.
Whoever is chasing Chelsea ideally has to win every game, because Chelsea will win more games, as will the remaining teams, Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs etc.
To win every game means breaking the record set by Arsenal, and bettering Chelsea's winning run earlier in season. Its not happening. It would take the most monumental collapse from Chelsea along with the most incredible winning run the prem has ever seen from the eventual winners who surpass Chelsea
To win every game means breaking the record set by Arsenal, and bettering Chelsea's winning run earlier in season. Its not happening. It would take the most monumental collapse from Chelsea along with the most incredible winning run the prem has ever seen from the eventual winners who surpass Chelsea
Monaco are no pushovers, they're a very good side this season. I doubt City would be able to beat them with a high score, even at home.
actually a few weeks ago...lets say after 23 matches were played they were 8 points clear...before that 7 points, before that 6 and 5.....where have you magically picked the 9 points out from a few weeks ago?
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Now that Gabriel Jesus is injured City could drop many points. Aguero doesn't look up for it this season.