I get this idea of pressure but why is it only Chelsea supposedly feeling the pressure? Will Spurs not feel any pressure now that attention is on them? Has everyone forgotten how they responded to pressure last season? Finishing 3rd in a 2 horse race? Anyway, as I've said before, all we have to do is win on Wednesday. I think we can get 7 points from the next 3 matches. Not sure why everyone's suddenly on alert just yet. We were never going to win 10 games on the trot to close the season. It wasn't over before the Palace match and it's not over now. But I'll be extra confident if we beat City.
2016/2017 Title race
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6 wins and a draw from their remaining 9 games is very achievable. All they need to do is draw against City.
In fact, 7 points from their next 3 games (City, Bournemouth, United) should wrap up the title. The remaining games are straight forward after they face us.
It's over, Chelsea have already won it
If Chelsea had Spurs coming up in the league then it would have been very interesting. Both games have long been done and dusted though.
I can see Chelsea dropping points but not enough to lose their lead.
I can see Chelsea dropping points but not enough to lose their lead.
They also bottled their entire season last season. They have it in them to implode, they demonstrated that.
You're so desperate to paint Conte as rubbish with every opportunity you get, it's almost sad. Weird mix of jealousy and obsession. Italian Keegan3 straight titles with Juventus including an unbeaten season only to be called the Italian Keegan by some obsessed lad on a forum
I did not say that Conte was the Italian Keegan. I said that he would be the Italian Keegan if he loses this season's league title from a position of being 13 points clear at one stage AND fails to win any further PL titles in the future - and let's face it, he won't have a better chance that this. Next season will be much more difficult for him with United and City in the mix, and Arsenal potentially under new management.
Keegan is Keegan because he bottled it and failed to make amends by winning it. Fergie bottled it in 2012 but he more than made up for it with his multiple wins. This is why Fergie is regarded as a winner, while Keegan is regarded as a bottler.
Even Jose, if you class what happened last season as a "bottle job" (well he was never leading the league so the jury is out), he is still regarded as a winner.
Fergie, Mourinho, they are the winners because they've won far more than they've "bottled". The bottlers are Keegan and Rodgers, for screwing up their best shot that they ever had in their entire tenures at those clubs.
In football, as in life, you're either a winner or a bottler.
Same way United and City were supposed to be the ones fighting for the title this season? I wouldn't be so sure if I were you. It's the Premier League. Anything can happen. But it's not often you see an experienced team like Chelsea bottle a title run. We'd never done it before last season. I suppose we were due one. And we were so bad that I think we've used up most of our bad luck for a good while. I don't think your dream will come true.
Sounds like something I should get an underarm tattoo of.
Anyone who posts end of story at the end of a post doesn't instill much faith in the context of the post.
We did bottle it that year. It's the only way to describe it irrespective of the job Fergie did in the entirety of his tenure. Similarly Conte wouldn't have that tag haunting him because he's won stuff elsewhere. He's not a newbie looking for his first prize.
Lose to Man City and we beat Swansea and then we can talk. Otherwise, its still a bit of a pipe dream imo.
Would be quite something though. Jose could have a huge part to play. Beat Chelsea and then imagine if he comes to WHL with not much more to play for in the league, Europa league final place confirmed and with Spurs just a few points behind Conte and Chelsea
. I wonder what he'd do....
Like I said, won't happen though as I think Chelsea will win on Wednesday anyway. May have been slightly different were it not for crap luck with injuries but oh well.
Would be quite something though. Jose could have a huge part to play. Beat Chelsea and then imagine if he comes to WHL with not much more to play for in the league, Europa league final place confirmed and with Spurs just a few points behind Conte and Chelsea
. I wonder what he'd do....Like I said, won't happen though as I think Chelsea will win on Wednesday anyway. May have been slightly different were it not for crap luck with injuries but oh well.
This is laughable - where did Utd come last season? We ended up third which is one of our highest finishes in my lifetime, give it a rest mate. Utd, Chelsea, etc. all 'bottled' (what a crap word) their entire seasons MUCH WORSE than Spurs did.
No, this is laughable. I was talking about Chelsea, relax, I didn't even mention your beloved Spurs
No, this is laughable. I was talking about Chelsea, relax, I didn't even mention your beloved Spurs
I shall quietly remove myself from the thread and pretend it never happened. Let's never talk about this again.
As soon as Spurs come close to Chelsea, they will probably crumble again, plus Conte knows how manage these situations. It's still gonna be interesting for a neutral though
As soon as Spurs come close to Chelsea, they will probably crumble again, plus Conte knows how manage these situations. It's still gonna be interesting for a neutral though
If nothing else at least we are stretching out a bit of a challenge to Chelsea which is keeping the league interesting.
Reckon you get tripped by Swansea.
Could easily happen.
You cannot 'bottle' an entire season. It exists by definition in a short time frame.
Chelsea can. They bottled being champions, for the whole season.
Bottled being champions?... I often forget that words are not for everyone.
I know it's hard for you Chelsea lads to understand, but let me say it simply for you. They went from being Champions, to a mid table side in a matter of months. They lost their bottle.
A little too *simple*. Say the team were shite for a year, sure. To claim it was a bottle job after being crowned champions is nonsensical. #WordsMatter
I'm happy to say that if we don't win the title this year we'll have bottled it. We've done everything right pretty much up until this point, and we've built a very comfortable cushion. We're being chased by Spurs who have injury worries, with Liverpool and City even further back. There are no excuses from this point forward, if we don't finish champions then we'll have let ourselves down.
Hopefully though we'll just batter City and put all this talk to bed.
Hopefully though we'll just batter City and put all this talk to bed.
or perhaps lost their faith
Think you need to reconsider this. Chelsea won the league. The next season they were poor. The season after that they are champions-elect. That's obviously not a matter of bottle or nerves, it's more about attitude and internal wranglings around a potential breakdown in Jose's relationships with key players.
Where have you got 'bottle' from?
I bottle the lottery every week and I have bottled a few half marathons by not winning.
Chelsea (and Jose) did bottle the title run-in in 2013-14. Lost to palace, villa and sunderland (at home) in the last few games to hand city the title. People dont remember it because dippers did a 10 times bigger bottle job than Chelsea.
More like, Mourinho kept repeating his team couldn't win the league that season whenever being asked. On the other hand we have Stevie Me went public with the famous captain "slipping" speech... People tend to remember the showboat bottler more. Not but not least, probably every teams bottled it on occasions; when it comes to L'pool in PL era, Tottenham, & Arsenal since stadium project; they make themselves known as serial bottlers.
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Ahh proper use. You have to be in a position to compete before you can bottle it. If not then the team was/is just poor.
Just an example of how divisive he can be. And he'll always be that way. I have deep love for him though. But things like the recent Shaw comments will eventually tire anyone out, especially a few seasons into his contract when he has less slack. Eventually he'll upset a player with dressing room influence.
You chugged the entire jug of mourinho cool-aid I think.
Are you saying Chelsea were not in a position to beat sunderland at home and norwich (who were relegated) away. Just those 5 points alone would have got us the title. Not to mention losses to palace and villa that should easily have been wins.
The term "bottling it" is possibly the most overly used term to describe a losing contender. It assumes that winning is simply about nerve and courage. Of course they are important attributes, but ability, quality and luck are huge factors as well. Not winning doesn't automatically equate to bottling your chances.
Pretty much any fans of any team throw the bottle line around the moment their team loses. It's too easy and cheap.
Pretty much any fans of any team throw the bottle line around the moment their team loses. It's too easy and cheap.
Think we was giving a cheeky response to the other fella who says we bottled our entire 15-16.
Yeah, finishing second, giving Chelsea a real go until the end, would be a great improvement for you.
Absolutely. It's the same as "passion" and "effort". It is comforting to think that success is all about wanting it and being brave instead of actually being good. As you say, you need the right attitude and nerves but to suggest it is the difference maker is idiotically lazy.
Sure if you want a stick to beat Spurs with you can use that.As soon as Spurs come close to Chelsea, they will probably crumble again, plus Conte knows how manage these situations. It's still gonna be interesting for a neutral though
Personally I'm expecting a dropped result somewhere, there's just so many key players injured. I don't really feel like it's a matter of bottle just that player personnel is making a dropped result inevitable - I really didn't expect us to win out for the entire rest of the season.
Looking at your run-in, i have realized it's quite tricky. You need to get the maximum from your next 3 games.
I still think the title is done. Like Carragher or Neville said, forgotten which, Spurs have to win every game now, really and that won't happen because they still have Arsenal and Utd to play (i think). And 7 points is still a sizeable lead even now.
I'm almost certain they won't win either of those games. They find ways time and time again to get fecked in the arse by both Arsenal and United even when they're in better form.