He's a hardworking player, otherwise there's not much left in him. He's been on a downwards spiral, same as Costa, IMO. Tbf, i could name Pedro also as poor, but overall Pedro's shown more this season whenever i've seen him.
2016/2017 Title race
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Moses played better than Pedro today.
People can be too quick to declare a race on or off depending on the latest result of the the team at the top.
When Chelsea won and extended their lead to 8 points the title race was over, after which they increased their lead by a couple more points. However when Chelsea drop points and City close the gap to 8 points the title race is suddenly on again.
If anything it's off more than it was the last time it was 8 points, because now there is even fewer games.
When Chelsea won and extended their lead to 8 points the title race was over, after which they increased their lead by a couple more points. However when Chelsea drop points and City close the gap to 8 points the title race is suddenly on again.
If anything it's off more than it was the last time it was 8 points, because now there is even fewer games.
correct
Of course, while also forgetting Chelsea drew but actually extended their lead by 1 point. only 1, but the games whittle away and they remain top. Still utterly convinced theyll win it (plus i have some cash on it)
If we win tomorrow I'd be cautiously optimistic we can maybe put a bit of pressure on them for a couple of weeks. The gap would be down to 8 points and we still have to play them and if we could go to Stamford Bridge at less than 8 points we could fluke a win. I still think the title is over but at City we tend to get on rolls and if we could hit top from heading into and win our nightmare triple header Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea or even pick up 7 points I think we might be able to make them sweat.
That said watch us lose to B'mouth tomorrow now.
That said watch us lose to B'mouth tomorrow now.
You sure you're a City fan ?
'fluke a win'
As we have seen City are very capable of outplaying Chelsea. I'm not saying we will but to say we'd need a fluke to beat them is odd coming from a City fan
you people who are saying Utd can win the League are messing about, are you? - 
have you seen the remaining away fixtures? some of which are possibly gonna be sandwiched in between some awesomely massive European games very possibly
Scoring rate doesn't suggest we can win absolute not even enough 11 minimum out of 13 either does it?
have you seen the remaining away fixtures? some of which are possibly gonna be sandwiched in between some awesomely massive European games very possibly
Scoring rate doesn't suggest we can win absolute not even enough 11 minimum out of 13 either does it?
Game on!
you people who are saying Utd can win the League are messing about, are you? -
have you seen the remaining away fixtures? some of which are possibly gonna be sandwiched in between some awesomely massive European games very possibly
Scoring rate doesn't suggest we can win absolute not even enough 11 minimum out of 13 either does it?
We won't have any of these this year. Last time we had one was vs Bayern three years ago.
One thing is for certain, you won't be beating Liverpool, as usual.
Chelsea's next 3 home games are Swansea, Watford & Palace. This is gonna be one hell of a choke when it happens, .
We don't want City to win at Bournemouth either, or Utd can't apply the heat of leaping from 6th to 2nd in one gameweek either. This would be great though, after spending the whole of the last geological epoch firmly stuck between 5th & 7th.
.We don't want City to win at Bournemouth either, or Utd can't apply the heat of leaping from 6th to 2nd in one gameweek either. This would be great though, after spending the whole of the last geological epoch firmly stuck between 5th & 7th.
tbf, the chasing pack are only going after one team so if the wheels do come off the Chelsea bandwagon / steamroller - the best finishers out of the rest will sneak an unlikely triumph
so we're back to anyone but fecking Liverpool then, really -
so we're back to anyone but fecking Liverpool then, really -
Yep. Felt like one of those games. A 10 point lead with only 13 games left is still huge though.
We have a poor record against Liverpool away, at home its not too bad.
They've only beaten us at our place once in the league since 2009 (last season). Our last 7 home league games against Liverpool 4 wins, 2 draws, 1 loss.
SB is a hard place to go, while fluke a win was over the top and we are capable of winning there, I'd imagine to win there we will need the rub of the green. This is a top, top Chelsea side who don't drop home points often and know how to get the job done in big games. Our open style also plays right into their hands as does our lack of defensive cover. I believe we can win but I don't think we'll go there expecting to win.
Its massive, you'd have to lose every game left against the top 7 just to make it interesting. Thats United and Everton away and City at home. I believe the gap can be narrowed enough to make you sweat but no team will get close enough to actually have a shot at passing you.
correct me if my maths are wrong...but didnt Chelsea increase their lead at the top today?
Anything else at the moment is just counting chickens
Anything else at the moment is just counting chickens
As long as there are chickens to count, we can count them.
which is fine and dandy, but there happens to be one light blue chicken called "assumption" taking a trip to a lovely southern seaside resort tommorow
Thankfully Pep and the team will have more confidence than you !
title will be over by the time they go to SB
The race had been thrown wide open with the dropped points today.
The next few games are crucial now. Imperative that we win the next 5 games games (all winnable fixtures) before hosting city in early April.
The next few games are crucial now. Imperative that we win the next 5 games games (all winnable fixtures) before hosting city in early April.
Wide open? You're 10 points ahead. It would take an almighty feck up to lose it now.
I'd honestly be very annoyed if I was a Chelsea fan. I mean admittedly it is a good problem to have, but everyone is saying the title is won and congratulating Chelsea when in reality a loss to city, and with 12 other games to play, you never know what could happen.
They are in a great position and they are a consistent machine at beating average teams but the title is not done yet.
They are in a great position and they are a consistent machine at beating average teams but the title is not done yet.
Some people here still think Arsenal, Spurs are title challangers.
Spurs could be in the title race if Chelsea lose to City, and don't forget that Chelsea also have to play us. Spurs are a streaky team and if they go on a hot streak they could find themselves in the mix.
As for Arsenal, they dropped out of the title race in August, just as they do every season.
After the next 5 games, Chelsea's remaining fixtures are very very tough.
If the 8 point lead at the top is not intact after matchday 30, City will be will be a whisker away and United could be knocking on the door by that time too.
Basically Chelsea cant afford to drop any points in the next 5 games.
Tbf, while wide open is clearly an exaggeration, Man Utd (a better team managed by a better manager) managed to lose 8 points on City in a shorter time frame (though neither Spurs nor this Man City are as good as that team).
Imo, Chelsea are clearly going to be champions but I can see why Chelsea fans would still be looking over their shoulders.
City face Arsenal and Liverpool in that time and we're miles off.
Yeah but you have easy games after Chelsea away. Only Southampton and United could provide any resistance. Rest of the games are a breeze.
I'm fully with you on not counting anything as done yet (or even close), but our run in really isn't that tough. We only have United and City left to play of the top teams, and the other potential stumbling blocks are just the same ones every team can expect to have over this number of games. We also have a lot of games that should be fairly straightforward.
Having looked at your run in, I totally agree. Think it would be a huge shock if you didn't win it now.
Spurs are 10 points behind Chelsea, there's a no way they're in title race. They'll be 7 points off Chelsea even if they lose to city at home. 10 point is too big of a lead at this late stage. Ship has sailed now, Spurs had their chances to pile up pressure on Chelsea and they failed big time. They're more likely to miss out on top4 than winning Titles. What is most likely? Spurs missing out on top 4 or Winning the league?
Title race is over at this stage. I think 2nd place is well within reach for us though, given we are only 2 points off at the moment.
No one enjoys being 2nd, but I'd take that league finish and a couple trophies all day long. We'd finally be able to turn to 99% of the league and say we're back and did better than them, which wouldn't be bad at all for Jose's first season.
No one enjoys being 2nd, but I'd take that league finish and a couple trophies all day long. We'd finally be able to turn to 99% of the league and say we're back and did better than them, which wouldn't be bad at all for Jose's first season.
I would be very worried if I was a Chelsea fan. The weight of expectations. The incessant pronouncements that my team are already champions-elect. The fact that there are in fact many games for possible dropped points (not least difficult games against City, UTD and Everton). And the fact that just one or two draws might really re-open the title race and make it free for all.
I would rather be a few points behind the leaders with an easier fixture list, where two or three good results could really change the whole dynamics of the situation, than be in Chelsea's position right now.
100%. Mourinho is a tactical genius for being 12 points behind at this point. Stupid Conte for opting for an unassailable lead instead. It's those kinds of decisions that show why he's only fit enough to be an assistant manager.
Even if you're right, there isn't a team ready to pounce in terms of being a few points behind.
Chelsea are in the position everyone else wants to be in. They should be very worried? Wha...?
Yeah it's much better to have to rely on the team at the top dropping points, whilst also hoping that your own form keeps up so that you can claw back a huge gap.
I'd much rather be in that position than have it all in your own hands at the top of the table.
Not a chance pal lol
Why on earth would you rather that? Chelsea can afford roughly 4 defeats and whoever is chasing them has to win every single game almost, while hoping Chelsea draw or lose more than they win.... it wont happen
Basically just for City to go top they have to win say next 4 games while Chelsea lose to Swansea home, West Ham away, Watford home and Stoke away, and then draw with Palace, for example. During that run, Spurs, City, Arsenall and /or Utd have to win every game. That just is not happening
That is why i think the league is more or less done.
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