Gaming 1836 - The Europa Universalis 4 Experiment (Hands-off) - Map & stats in second post - Final Map and Stats update - Timelapse video

[nimic]

Europe 1472

Europe in 1502 (Click for a bigger one - you can also open/download all the maps so far (1444, 1472, 1502) and easily compare)

adexkola is the Holy Roman Emperor

All of the following stats are Cafites-only.

Development (total value of provinces)

1. Hobbers: 423
2. Wing Attack Plan R: 405
3. AnotherLondonManc: 354
4. RedSky: 341
5. Walrus: 338
6. Shakesey: 335
7. Solius: 332
8. Eboue: 304
9. Tiber: 303
10. adexkola: 296

Prestige (sort of a "current status" value, goes from -100 to 100)

1. AnotherLondonManc: 99
2. Wing Attack Plan R: 51
3. Salt Bailly: 48
4. adexkola: 47
5. PSV: 41
6. BD: 41
7. hobbers: 40
8. RedSky: 38
9. Solius: 36
10. V.O.: 32

Power Projection (how much you've bullied (war, insults, embargo, etc) rivals. Up to 3 nations you've picked that are roughly evenly matched with you - goes from 0 to 100)

1. Shakesey: 63
2. Hobbers: 62
3. Organic Potatoes: 59
4. Andocoleno9: 52
5. AnotherLondonManc: 49
6. Solius: 40
7. Salt Bailly: 38
8. RedSky: 36
9. Igor Drefljak: 33
10. Abizzz: 33

Total Army size (might be misleading if you are or have just been at war)

1. Solius: 55 000
2. Wing Attack Plan R: 47 000
3. Adexkola: 44 431
4. AnotherLondonManc: 38 000
5. Abizzz: 37 914
6. Eboue: 37 000
7. hobbers: 35 000
8. BD: 32 000
9. V.O.: 31 101
10. Organic Potatoes: 30 984

Total Navy Size (Four ship types, but this is usually a decent measure)

1. AnotherLondonManc: 52
2. Igor Drefljak: 43
3. BD: 40
4. Organic Potaties: 34
5. VeevaVee: 33
6. hobbers: 33
7. Wing Attack Plan R: 30
8. altodevil: 30
9. Welsh Wonder: 29
10. KirkDuyt: 28

Total monthly income

1. Solius: 91
2. AnotherLondonManc: 66
3. BD: 51
4. hobbers: 46
5. Organic Potatoes: 44
6. Igor Drefljak: 44
7. Welsh Wonder: 43
8. V.O.: 42
9. Wing Attack Plan R: 39
10. KirkDuyt: 39

Ideas (these are basically upgrades you can take that come in Administrative, Diplomatic and Military, using the currency generated (generally) by the skills of your ruler. I'll go into a bit more detail about these when I do country-by-country updates a bit later today, but they're one way of measuring how well you're doing that doesn't necessarily relate directly to your number of provinces or the size of your armies. If you're conquering a lot you'll probably use a lot of Administrative power on making the new provinces cores, so maybe won't have as much to spend on new ideas)

1. Organic Potatoes: 14
2. Vidyoyo: 14
3. altodevil: 14
4. SilentWitness: 13
5. KirkDuyt: 13
6. Abizzz: 13
7. VeevaVee: 12
8. Crackers: 12
9. BD: 12
10. Andycoleno9: 11
11. AnotherLondonManc: 11
12. Eboue: 11
13. P-Nut: 11
14. Welsh Wonder: 11
15. Solius: 11

Most developed province (this is still just the Cafites)

1. Paris (Eboue): 33
2. Roma (VeevaVee): 33
3. Henegouwn (SilentWitness): 33
4. Qahirah (Wing Attack Plan R: 31
5. Ayrshire (Organic Potatoes): 31
6. Auvergne (RedSky): 29
7. Firenze (AnotherLondonManc): 28
8. Aachen (adexkola): 27
9. Moskva (Salt Bailly): 27
10. Krakow (PSV): 27
11. Metz (SilentWitness): 27
12. Venezia (P-Nut): 27
13. Genova (AnotherLondonManc): 27

Players no longer with us

• Stobzilla
• Grib

 

[nimic]

Like I said I didn't save for the last update, but next time I'll put in how much you've gone up or down (in value, not position) in the various stats.

 

[Dan]

I think @Dan might be the next to go. Incredibly @Crackers appears set not to even make the top 3 of fastest killed, despite the promising start.

I'm going to let that one play out, and then do an update hopefully before any big wars kick off.

 

[RedSky]

@Solius looking a bit intimidating looking at that.

 

[Dan]

I'll avenge you against these Brandenburgian upstarts, @Dan.

Who the hell do they think they are?

 

[nimic]

I am actually surprised @Crackers is still hanging on. It appears like the alliance with @Welsh Wonder and @Shakesey is enough to make the (other) Iberian menace think twice.

 

[Shakesy]

I am actually surprised @Crackers is still hanging on. It appears like the alliance with @Welsh Wonder and @Shakesey is enough to make the (other) Iberian menace think twice.

Power projection = strong
Economy, military, ideas, development, etc = weak

If only they knew this is just a façade

 

[Crackers]

I am actually surprised @Crackers is still hanging on. It appears like the alliance with @Welsh Wonder and @Shakesey is enough to make the (other) Iberian menace think twice.

Im a slippery cnut

 

[AnotherLondonManc]

Whoa, my prestige is through the roof! How did that happen?

No idea what it means but big number make Geronimo happy

 

[Phil Jones Face]

It might be worth including the individual mil/dip/admin tech on the yearly reviews too, or at least the mil tech with the army size update.

As you know, only a level or two in mil diff can totally swing the balance in a battle. 100k vs 50k doesn't mean much if your using pitch forks vs rifles.

IMO the best metrics for player strength from the stats above are 1) development, 2) ideas 3) army size

 

[nimic]

It might be worth including the individual mil/dip/admin tech on the yearly reviews too, or at least the mil tech with the army size update.

As you know, only a level or two in mil diff can totally swing the balance in a battle. 100k vs 50k doesn't mean much if your using pitch forks vs rifles.

IMO the best metrics for player strength from the stats above are 1) development, 2) ideas 3) army size

Yeah not a bad shout. It will be in the country update though.

 

[VeevaVee]

Europe 1472

Europe in 1502 (Click for a bigger one - you can also open/download all the maps so far (1444, 1472, 1502) and easily compare)

adexkola is the Holy Roman Emperor

All of the following stats are Cafites-only.

Development (total value of provinces)

1. Hobbers: 423
2. Wing Attack Plan R: 405
3. AnotherLondonManc: 354
4. RedSky: 341
5. Walrus: 338
6. Shakesey: 335
7. Solius: 332
8. Eboue: 304
9. Tiber: 303
10. adexkola: 296

Prestige (sort of a "current status" value, goes from -100 to 100)

1. AnotherLondonManc: 99
2. Wing Attack Plan R: 51
3. Salt Bailly: 48
4. adexkola: 47
5. PSV: 41
6. BD: 41
7. hobbers: 40
8. RedSky: 38
9. Solius: 36
10. V.O.: 32

Power Projection (how much you've bullied (war, insults, embargo, etc) rivals. Up to 3 nations you've picked that are roughly evenly matched with you - goes from 0 to 100)

1. Shakesey: 63
2. Hobbers: 62
3. Organic Potatoes: 59
4. Andocoleno9: 52
5. AnotherLondonManc: 49
6. Solius: 40
7. Salt Bailly: 38
8. RedSky: 36
9. Igor Drefljak: 33
10. Abizzz: 33

Total Army size (might be misleading if you are or have just been at war)

1. Solius: 55 000
2. Wing Attack Plan R: 47 000
3. Adexkola: 44 431
4. AnotherLondonManc: 38 000
5. Abizzz: 37 914
6. Eboue: 37 000
7. hobbers: 35 000
8. BD: 32 000
9. V.O.: 31 101
10. Organic Potatoes: 30 984

Total Navy Size (Four ship types, but this is usually a decent measure)

1. AnotherLondonManc: 52
2. Igor Drefljak: 43
3. BD: 40
4. Organic Potaties: 34
5. VeevaVee: 33
6. hobbers: 33
7. Wing Attack Plan R: 30
8. altodevil: 30
9. Welsh Wonder: 29
10. KirkDuyt: 28

Total monthly income

1. Solius: 91
2. AnotherLondonManc: 66
3. BD: 51
4. hobbers: 46
5. Organic Potatoes: 44
6. Igor Drefljak: 44
7. Welsh Wonder: 43
8. V.O.: 42
9. Wing Attack Plan R: 39
10. KirkDuyt: 39

Ideas (these are basically upgrades you can take that come in Administrative, Diplomatic and Military, using the currency generated (generally) by the skills of your ruler. I'll go into a bit more detail about these when I do country-by-country updates a bit later today, but they're one way of measuring how well you're doing that doesn't necessarily relate directly to your number of provinces or the size of your armies. If you're conquering a lot you'll probably use a lot of Administrative power on making the new provinces cores, so maybe won't have as much to spend on new ideas)

1. Organic Potatoes: 14
2. Vidyoyo: 14
3. altodevil: 14
4. SilentWitness: 13
5. KirkDuyt: 13
6. Abizzz: 13
7. VeevaVee: 12
8. Crackers: 12
9. BD: 12
10. Andycoleno9: 11
11. AnotherLondonManc: 11
12. Eboue: 11
13. P-Nut: 11
14. Welsh Wonder: 11
15. Solius: 11

Most developed province (this is still just the Cafites)

1. Paris (Eboue): 33
2. Roma (VeevaVee): 33
3. Henegouwn (SilentWitness): 33
4. Qahirah (Wing Attack Plan R: 31
5. Ayrshire (Organic Potatoes): 31
6. Auvergne (RedSky): 29
7. Firenze (AnotherLondonManc): 28
8. Aachen (adexkola): 27
9. Moskva (Salt Bailly): 27
10. Krakow (PSV): 27
11. Metz (SilentWitness): 27
12. Venezia (P-Nut): 27
13. Genova (AnotherLondonManc): 27

Players no longer with us

• Stobzilla
• Grib

I’ll take most developed although not great if it doesn’t translate to money or obliterating.

Have I taken a bit of land to the east there?

 

[SilentWitness]

Still playing the long game.

 

[VeevaVee]

@AnotherLondonManc between your army and development and my developed province, plus both our navies we are beastly. Dunno what the feck @P-Nut is adding

 

[Welsh Wonder]

I'll protect you @Crackers

 

[Solius]

@Solius looking a bit intimidating looking at that.

Biggest army and most income, but fallen on the development scale.

 

[VeevaVee]

Biggest army and most income, but fallen on the development scale.

Massive army but they’re all backwards

 

[Tiber]

Europe 1472

Europe in 1502 (Click for a bigger one - you can also open/download all the maps so far (1444, 1472, 1502) and easily compare)

adexkola is the Holy Roman Emperor

All of the following stats are Cafites-only.

Development (total value of provinces)

1. Hobbers: 423
2. Wing Attack Plan R: 405
3. AnotherLondonManc: 354
4. RedSky: 341
5. Walrus: 338
6. Shakesey: 335
7. Solius: 332
8. Eboue: 304
9. Tiber: 303
10. adexkola: 296

Prestige (sort of a "current status" value, goes from -100 to 100)

1. AnotherLondonManc: 99
2. Wing Attack Plan R: 51
3. Salt Bailly: 48
4. adexkola: 47
5. PSV: 41
6. BD: 41
7. hobbers: 40
8. RedSky: 38
9. Solius: 36
10. V.O.: 32

Power Projection (how much you've bullied (war, insults, embargo, etc) rivals. Up to 3 nations you've picked that are roughly evenly matched with you - goes from 0 to 100)

1. Shakesey: 63
2. Hobbers: 62
3. Organic Potatoes: 59
4. Andocoleno9: 52
5. AnotherLondonManc: 49
6. Solius: 40
7. Salt Bailly: 38
8. RedSky: 36
9. Igor Drefljak: 33
10. Abizzz: 33

Total Army size (might be misleading if you are or have just been at war)

1. Solius: 55 000
2. Wing Attack Plan R: 47 000
3. Adexkola: 44 431
4. AnotherLondonManc: 38 000
5. Abizzz: 37 914
6. Eboue: 37 000
7. hobbers: 35 000
8. BD: 32 000
9. V.O.: 31 101
10. Organic Potatoes: 30 984

Total Navy Size (Four ship types, but this is usually a decent measure)

1. AnotherLondonManc: 52
2. Igor Drefljak: 43
3. BD: 40
4. Organic Potaties: 34
5. VeevaVee: 33
6. hobbers: 33
7. Wing Attack Plan R: 30
8. altodevil: 30
9. Welsh Wonder: 29
10. KirkDuyt: 28

Total monthly income

1. Solius: 91
2. AnotherLondonManc: 66
3. BD: 51
4. hobbers: 46
5. Organic Potatoes: 44
6. Igor Drefljak: 44
7. Welsh Wonder: 43
8. V.O.: 42
9. Wing Attack Plan R: 39
10. KirkDuyt: 39

Ideas (these are basically upgrades you can take that come in Administrative, Diplomatic and Military, using the currency generated (generally) by the skills of your ruler. I'll go into a bit more detail about these when I do country-by-country updates a bit later today, but they're one way of measuring how well you're doing that doesn't necessarily relate directly to your number of provinces or the size of your armies. If you're conquering a lot you'll probably use a lot of Administrative power on making the new provinces cores, so maybe won't have as much to spend on new ideas)

1. Organic Potatoes: 14
2. Vidyoyo: 14
3. altodevil: 14
4. SilentWitness: 13
5. KirkDuyt: 13
6. Abizzz: 13
7. VeevaVee: 12
8. Crackers: 12
9. BD: 12
10. Andycoleno9: 11
11. AnotherLondonManc: 11
12. Eboue: 11
13. P-Nut: 11
14. Welsh Wonder: 11
15. Solius: 11

Most developed province (this is still just the Cafites)

1. Paris (Eboue): 33
2. Roma (VeevaVee): 33
3. Henegouwn (SilentWitness): 33
4. Qahirah (Wing Attack Plan R: 31
5. Ayrshire (Organic Potatoes): 31
6. Auvergne (RedSky): 29
7. Firenze (AnotherLondonManc): 28
8. Aachen (adexkola): 27
9. Moskva (Salt Bailly): 27
10. Krakow (PSV): 27
11. Metz (SilentWitness): 27
12. Venezia (P-Nut): 27
13. Genova (AnotherLondonManc): 27

Players no longer with us

• Stobzilla
• Grib

The Egyptian starting position is nice

 

[AnotherLondonManc]

@AnotherLondonManc between your army and development and my developed province, plus both our navies we are beastly. Dunno what the feck @P-Nut is adding

While I enjoy visiting Rome, you need to up some of your numbers, Veeva. Your 1 additional idea better be a good one to demolish @Andycoleno9

 

[VeevaVee]

While I enjoy visiting Rome, you need to up some of your numbers, Veeva. Your 1 additional idea better be a good one to demolish @Andycoleno9

MOST DEVELOPED PROVINCE. First comes the culture then comes the indulgent skull smashing

 

[P-Nut]

@AnotherLondonManc between your army and development and my developed province, plus both our navies we are beastly. Dunno what the feck @P-Nut is adding

I'd have been on Total army numbers if I hadn't just had to feck your army up for @Andycoleno9 who repaid me by stealing glorious Italian land

 

[VeevaVee]

I'd have been on Total army numbers if I hadn't just had to feck your army up for @Andycoleno9 who repaid me by stealing glorious Italian land

I'm not sure this is a plus

 

[P-Nut]

I'm not sure this is a plus

 

[Walrus]

Jeez, going from such a good start to not even appearing on most of those top 10/15 lists now. Sad times for von Walrus.

 

[SilentWitness]

Someone needs to ally with me to take down those dirty Swiss.

 

[Shakesy]

Someone needs to Allah with me to take down those dirty Swiss.

Give Islam a spin! No pressure, just an open invitation. Always remember that the conversion deal comes with a lifetime supply of spiritual guidance, brotherly love, and if you're lucky, some heavenly baklava

 

[nimic]

Okay I'm going to start giving a very brief status update for all the countries. I'm trying to use the diplomacy map mode. I'll just use hobbers here first to explain what's going on here. This feels extremely try-hard, but I'm committed. As always, click to expand the image.

- Circled in red are the idea groups they've picked, the number being how many ideas in that group they have finished (7 being the max). Below you can see how many of his national ideas he has unlocked, which is directly based on how many ideas he's finished.
- Circled in yellow you can see his Administrative, Diplomatic and Military tech level. More higherer is gooder.
- Circled in Green you have the stability (from -3 to +3) and prestige (-100 to 100)
- I don't know why I bothered numbering the boxes when I have the power of words, but there you go. Purple means a royal marriage, blue means an alliance, the yellow-striped are provinces he has claimed and can thus use as justification to start a war (if they were green-striped that would mean they were his own core provinces that he had lost. Some of you will se a few of those, and that's your cue to get angry. The colour on Tiber means he's in a personal union under hobbers (same ruler, same diplomacy)
- If you see a darker green, that means they're in a war on the same side as you. You may or may not be allies.

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And then I'll just add a short description of how it's going for you. For @hobbers this is very easy: he's a fecking monster who you should all be very afraid of.

 

[adexkola]

Give Islam a spin! No pressure, just an open invitation. Always remember that the conversion deal comes with a lifetime supply of spiritual guidance, brotherly love, and if you're lucky, some heavenly baklava

Don't forget excommunication and bulls issued permitting conquest and plunder and ravishing blessed by yours truly

Edit: @SilentWitness if your kingdom is Protestant already ignore what I've said, you're already excommunicated.

 

[BootsyCollins]

Still not on any lists.
@nimic could you do a list that starts with the least developed ect, then maybe i will be on one?

 

[altodevil]

Why have I just been wanking in a corner the whole game

 

[AnotherLondonManc]

Give Islam a spin! No pressure, just an open invitation. Always remember that the conversion deal comes with a lifetime supply of spiritual guidance, brotherly love, and if you're lucky, some heavenly baklava

Sorry buddy, Sardinia is coming for you, and with it, our Glorious Catholic Church. Say goodbye to your baklava and condoms, and hello to Sunday mass and morally questionable priests.

We do get to drink wine during service though, so there's that.

 

[nimic]

1502 country update (Part 1)

Okay let's do this thing.

@Igor Drefljak has been sitting really calmly in his boat. He's clearly formed some sort of anti-@Vidyoyo alliance, so it's pretty clear that Vidyoyo is never going to start that particular war. If Igor wants some land, he has to go and take it. His heir's name is Burkhard, which I think is pretty cool.

@Salt Bailly ruined my picture-taking plan by getting involved in a war. Just know that he's about to have his second subject, with Muscovy also apparently really looking for some Salt Baily in their lives (and last names). That said he does have to fight @Vidyoyo for the privilege first.

Speaking of @Vidyoyo, you can tell he has some real plans for @BootsyCollins and @Igor Drefljak, he just hasn't gotten around to them yet. Also as mentioned he's fighting @Salt Bailly and @PSV to control Muscovy. His ruler is called Kristina Svinhufvud, which I am pretty sure means Kristina Pigshead.

@Walrus doesn't appear to like any of you, so he has found himself some allies even further east. Timurids was a good call, since they're massive. He's clearly got some designs on @hobbers, claiming a few of his provinces. His army should be ready since he finished the quality idea group, which will have improved his army and navy.

@Wing Attack Plan R is so big I had to zoom out to unprecedented levels. He doesn't have any big allies, but he made up for it with small allies...? Notably he has allied the completely useless Ottomans, which surely means future conflict with either hobbers or Walrus. He has done the humanist idea group, which makes it easier for him to rule different cultures and religions

@altodevil is still mostly sitting there, claiming provinces and making money. He has chosen defensive ideas, so he might not be going anywhere soon. Britain is a pretty strong position to be in later when colonization starts happening, and it's also next to potentially the richest trade node in the game, so maybe he doesn't have to do anything. He has a newborn named Fergus, which seems wrong somehow.

@BootsyCollins hasn't done much either, except building a very strong anti-Vidyoyo coalition. I am not sure what's stopping him from stomping Muscovy, but I suspect he'll start moving at some point. Either way his currently unlocked ideas might make him a pretty well-run country.

@Eboue hasn't done much since he vanquished the French. He has chosen to do the offensive idea group though, which makes your army better at attacking. On top of some solid national ideas, his army is quite strong for its size. And its size isn't too bad either. It seems like Queen Berthe loved her father so much that she's gone and named her son, the crown prince, Rooney in Paris.

@Samid is part of the @Igor Drefljak + @BootsyCollins alliance, but he's also allied to @Andycoleno9 for some reason. He hasn't done a lot of attacking since taking some of PSV's land. He's got plenty of claims to start up again, though.

@Shakesey looked like he might be the next to get ganged up on not too long ago, but he's become quite strong in his own right. He can't be happy that @AnotherLondonManc blocks him from Tunisia, and we can see he's claimed the territory just in case. He's got the espionage idea group, which might lead to some unfortunate rebellions in the lands of his enemies. The quantity idea is all about one thing: make more armies more bigger.

 

[Shakesy]

Sorry buddy, Sardinia is coming for you, and with it, our Glorious Catholic Church. Say goodbye to your baklava and condoms, and hello to Sunday mass and morally questionable priests.

We do get to drink wine during service though, so there's that.

We've got mint tea that'll make your church wine blush

 

[VeevaVee]

Death to Fergus

 

[Vidyoyo]

Oh I'll be getting @BootsyCollins and @Igor Drefljak alright

*bashes knuckles menacingly*

 

[nimic]

1502 country update

@Tiber was doing quite well, conquering his way to a pretty large country. Then his ruler died unexpectedly without an heir, and he ended up being ruled from Constantinople. He's got quite a few claims to work with, but a junior partner in a personal union can't fight their own wars. He'll have to hope the union falls apart, or he'll have to break it. Though there might be some value in being allied to a strong @hobbers.

@Abizzz seems like he's stuck in the middle of Europe, but that's only if you ignore the very tasty minor countries who surround him. They're all part of the Holy Roman Empire, which makes it harder to conquer them, but it's not impossible. He's currently at war with @Dan, but it all seems to be to the benefit of Brandenburg, who have somehow made it so far surrounded by you guys. His quantity idea group might mean we'll be seeing even more wars from him.

@Andycoleno9 has had an up-and-down game. Or maybe a down-and-up game. He's struck up a strong friendship with @P-Nut, though sources can reveal that the Italian might not be too impressed with andy's attempt to make himself Italian. He's yet to conquer Hungary, but maybe Leopold or his son Leopold can do something about it. He's one of the few to choose the diplomatic idea group, so maybe he's not looking for a fight.

@Organic Potatoes has done precisely zero conquering, yet still finds himself doing quite well as far as making money goes. He's got some very strong ideas already, so maybe it's time to get off his ass and actually attack @altodevil soon. He's pretty close to claiming literally every single province he can, so what's it all going to amount to? If @Eboue is willing, they could take anyone on.

@PSV is another who looked like he might be in a bit of trouble earlier. In the end he only lost two provinces, so he's actually grown since the start of the game. He's currently in a personal union under @Salt Bailly, but that might not be so bad. As long as it doesn't last forever, that is. He seems to be falling just a tiny bit behind on technology, which he should try to do something about. Though his early religious national ideas mean he's probably not very scared of the imminent Reformation.

@RedSky is another who seems to have run out of small countries to bully. He's claimed the one province of @Crackers that he can reach, but we all know @Solius will snap it up if he can get his greedy coral hands on it. RedSky has a very strong set of allies, so he might even try to take on @Eboue at some point. He's doing very poorly on national ideas, only doing two when others have reached double digits. He's strong, but he doesn't want to fall too far behind on that.

You might think that @VeevaVee would harbour some bad feelings towards @P-Nut after their brief war that saw @Andycoleno9 sneaky into Italy, but... nope. They allied back up again almost immediately. He's also somehow found hobbers, which might make andy a little bit worried. VeevaVee did lose his dynasty earlier, but on the bright side his heir is called Luigi. He's taking the quality ideas, which is bad news for his rivals.

@AnotherLondonManc is a serious person. He's conquered Tunisia (the brighter yellow means that it's just a territorial core, basically not AnotherLondonManc proper. He's got claims every which way. He chose the aristocratic ideas, which does a lot of different things. He could use it to attack, but he could also sit at home and boost the value of his provinces.

@BD is doing quite well, though you can tell from his claims that he's maybe not too satisfied with the sharing of spoils so far in his super alliance. Interestingly he only has a single claim in North Africa, which you would think he would target. Despite not growing a whole lot (I think two provinces?), he's one of the top money makers, largely on account of his trading acumen.

Finally, we come to @Denis79. He's not small, but you can tell by the map just how many provinces he's lost. Some might argue they were never really his to begin with, but I don't think that will hold up in a court of law. Also the year is 1502, so there is no law. He could really do with making some better friends, though. Right now he's allied to the tiny Byzantines, which is almost guaranteed to bring him into a war with @hobbers at some point. At least he's picking defensive ideas, so maybe he's had enough warmongering.

 

[Abizzz]

I think @Dan might be the next to go. Incredibly @Crackers appears set not to even make the top 3 of fastest killed, despite the promising start.

I'm going to let that one play out, and then do an update hopefully before any big wars kick off.

This looks promising. My allies could get their arses up though, 8% and 2% participation... We're doing gods work @KirkDuyt, put some more effort in it!

 

[Solius]

Ffs @RedSky I wanted that little nub at the top.

 

[VeevaVee]

Nice to have you on board @hobbers

 

[Tiber]

1502 country update

@Tiber was doing quite well, conquering his way to a pretty large country. Then his ruler died unexpectedly without an heir, and he ended up being ruled from Constantinople. He's got quite a few claims to work with, but a junior partner in a personal union can't fight their own wars. He'll have to hope the union falls apart, or he'll have to break it. Though there might be some value in being allied to a strong @hobbers.

@Abizzz seems like he's stuck in the middle of Europe, but that's only if you ignore the very tasty minor countries who surround him. They're all part of the Holy Roman Empire, which makes it harder to conquer them, but it's not impossible. He's currently at war with @Dan, but it all seems to be to the benefit of Brandenburg, who have somehow made it so far surrounded by you guys. His quantity idea group might mean we'll be seeing even more wars from him.

@Andycoleno9 has had an up-and-down game. Or maybe a down-and-up game. He's struck up a strong friendship with @P-Nut, though sources can reveal that the Italian might not be too impressed with andy's attempt to make himself Italian. He's yet to conquer Hungary, but maybe Leopold or his son Leopold can do something about it. He's one of the few to choose the diplomatic idea group, so maybe he's not looking for a fight.

@Organic Potatoes has done precisely zero conquering, yet still finds himself doing quite well as far as making money goes. He's got some very strong ideas already, so maybe it's time to get off his ass and actually attack @altodevil soon. He's pretty close to claiming literally every single province he can, so what's it all going to amount to? If @Eboue is willing, they could take anyone on.

@PSV is another who looked like he might be in a bit of trouble earlier. In the end he only lost two provinces, so he's actually grown since the start of the game. He's currently in a personal union under @Salt Bailly, but that might not be so bad. As long as it doesn't last forever, that is. He seems to be falling just a tiny bit behind on technology, which he should try to do something about. Though his early religious national ideas mean he's probably not very scared of the imminent Reformation.

@RedSky is another who seems to have run out of small countries to bully. He's claimed the one province of @Crackers that he can reach, but we all know @Solius will snap it up if he can get his greedy coral hands on it. RedSky has a very strong set of allies, so he might even try to take on @Eboue at some point. He's doing very poorly on national ideas, only doing two when others have reached double digits. He's strong, but he doesn't want to fall too far behind on that.

You might think that @VeevaVee would harbour some bad feelings towards @P-Nut after their brief war that saw @Andycoleno9 sneaky into Italy, but... nope. They allied back up again almost immediately. He's also somehow found hobbers, which might make andy a little bit worried. VeevaVee did lose his dynasty earlier, but on the bright side his heir is called Luigi. He's taking the quality ideas, which is bad news for his rivals.

@AnotherLondonManc is a serious person. He's conquered Tunisia (the brighter yellow means that it's just a territorial core, basically not AnotherLondonManc proper. He's got claims every which way. He chose the aristocratic ideas, which does a lot of different things. He could use it to attack, but he could also sit at home and boost the value of his provinces.

@BD is doing quite well, though you can tell from his claims that he's maybe not too satisfied with the sharing of spoils so far in his super alliance. Interestingly he only has a single claim in North Africa, which you would think he would target. Despite not growing a whole lot (I think two provinces?), he's one of the top money makers, largely on account of his trading acumen.

Finally, we come to @Denis79. He's not small, but you can tell by the map just how many provinces he's lost. Some might argue they were never really his to begin with, but I don't think that will hold up in a court of law. Also the year is 1502, so there is no law. He could really do with making some better friends, though. Right now he's allied to the tiny Byzantines, which is almost guaranteed to bring him into a war with @hobbers at some point. At least he's picking defensive ideas, so maybe he's had enough warmongering.

.I wish I would stop randomly dropping dead