I don't disagree with any of that.
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I don't disagree with any of that.
If this is true then I was completely wrong about him. He's looked like he had a proper winning and fighting mentality in the 13/14 season, chasing every loose ball, harrying opponents and leaving everything he has out on the pitch. Would show very poorly on his mentality if he's shown none of that for us, off the pitch in particular.
Going to such great lengths to join such an inferior league when (age wise) you are in the prime of your career tells you all you need to know about Di Maria.
he probably fell to the floor rolling around going through the metal detector
It's weird. Why would you want to go from competing at the highest level with Real Madrid against Barcelona, to PSG in France? It's too big a drop at a time which should be the peak of your career. He should be going there when he's 30/31.
psg have done more competing against real and barca than we have over the last two years.
Family, his wife chose Paris last year but Mendes convinced him to sign for us, honestly I would make the same choice, with PSG he will play with excellent players in a nice city, play the Champions League every year and he will still play for Argentina. All that while earning a lot of money and making his wife happy.
You would think falcao would have been a good example. Some of his sub appearances end of last season were truly pathetic for someone taking 250k a week from us
It's not remotely weird, Paris is lovely, he'll have a fantastic lifestyle, his wife will be happy.
PSG will be in the knockout stages of the champions league every year, he can win things most years, he'll make millions. If he needs to he can coast in the domestic league and save himself for Europe.
I suspect south americans don't really put as much weight on domestic european titles as many would think, it's all about the champions league for them. He's won everything in Spain anyway.
Can ADM be considered a world class player now?
These aren't the actions of a WC player, instead of staying and trying to prove and better himself in the best league in the world at one of the best clubs in the world he's going to take the easy option run away and go to the shitty French league for a shitty oil team.
These aren't the actions of a WC player, instead of staying and trying to prove and better himself in the best league in the world at one of the best clubs in the world he's going to take the easy option run away and go to the shitty French league for a shitty oil team.
Sorry, your club record signing doesn't work out and the club is blameless? If he doesn't want to be here then that was probably the case from the beginning. Then why sign such a player for a mega fee? On the orher hand if he was perfectly happy to join us but got unhappy later on, then the club is also at least partly to blame for having failed to integrate the player. Again this is not Valdes we are talking about who cost next to nothing, this is the 60 mil signing. I genuinly hope there will be a proper analysis by the club to make sure such a disaster doesn't happen again.
Tbf while it would have been weird a few years ago, it's not now. They have top players, even much younger ones like Veratti playing for them. He's guaranteed a start with Argentina anyway, and PSG have at least as much chance winning the CL as we do, actually considering their showing in the CL in the last 2 years I would say they are actually more prepared than us to go far in this comp.
I hope this saga highlights the importance of buying players to fit into our system rather than buying a talented player then trying to shoehorn them in. It happened with Fellaini and Mata too.
We won't learn our lesson though, if our pursuit of Pedro shows us anything. Where exactly would he fit in in a 4231 formation?
We won't learn our lesson though, if our pursuit of Pedro shows us anything. Where exactly would he fit in in a 4231 formation?
Nah. They forced out one of their best players of their best season in years, following which they ended up trophy less.
Out wide on the left or the right.
But the best players should be aspiring to play in the best leagues. No disrespect to France, but Ligue 1 is miles off the premier league, La Liga or the Bundesliga.
Nope, they got 60 mil and bought James who has had a good season and is younger.
On the right wing, surely? Pedro is probably the most easy-to-integrate forward player that we can buy currently.
Er, no. We'll have to disagree then.
Both strategies have awards and risks. Especially with a system which comes from a manager who is overly obsessed with details. If we really buy everyone to fit his complex system and he moves on in 1-2 years (which he will if he doesn't deliver trophies or falls out with Woodward/players) which other manager is going to have the exact same obsession? Even Guardiola's system is different.
Simple. Great city, fat wage and its going to be a lot easier for him to play in a shit league.
Any coach that plays possession football, Van gaal system doesn't rely on Van gaal's obsessions and the 'philosophy' stay within the club.
People having a go at Di Maria on a personal level need to take a step back. Actually look at the situation from his point of view. That little thing called empathy, although I guess that's asking a lot of people on the internet.
For the record - I want us to sell Di Maria and have said so for months - but does him not turning up on tour instantly make him a terrible prick? No. We've not exactly been quiet about looking to offload him and it's clear we're in discussions with PSG. If we're having these discussions about his future it's fair to say he too is probably having discussions with his agent and presumably with other clubs at the moment - and rightly so.
For the record - I want us to sell Di Maria and have said so for months - but does him not turning up on tour instantly make him a terrible prick? No. We've not exactly been quiet about looking to offload him and it's clear we're in discussions with PSG. If we're having these discussions about his future it's fair to say he too is probably having discussions with his agent and presumably with other clubs at the moment - and rightly so.
Who? Guardiola plays possession football but even his preferences/obsessions are different.
From the moment Moyes took over the club was looking to make a huge name signing then Di Maria fell into our lap and fitted the bill. Unfortunately he has always wanted to go to PSG instead and isn't mentally strong enough to handle the Premier League, at least we won't much too much of a loss on him.
The bitterness and the lack of respect for Ligue 1 in this thread are staggering. Calm down, they aren't half as bad as portrayed here. Sometimes transfers happen to be bad: Veron to United, Shevchenko to Chelsea, Kaka to Madrid, etc etc. Maybe his relationship with LVG isn't good and he prefers to join a club where he will be able to express himself more freely, not to mention that this might be the preference of his family as well. As a matter of fact, PSG are arguably better than any English team right now. They outplayed Chelsea in both legs, the second leg with 10 men. It's a shame because ADM is an outstanding talent but it was the same with Veron who was arguably even better.
I'm glad to see the club acting decisively by accepting the hit on the transfer fee and moving on. di Maria performed abysmally for most of last season and clearly didn't want to be at United. So recouping north of 40 million and getting his massive wages off the books is the best achievable outcome. As for the whole sorry episode of the record signing in the history of United and English football skulking out of the side door after 11 months, I take the optimistic view that this ill-conceived trophy signing was the last episode of that nightmarish, shambolic post-Ferguson transition.
Ligue 1 is kind of shit to be fair.
Really unhappy that this is the path it looks like he's choosing to go down. Really disappointed in him.
You're super-imposing your ambitions onto him.
It's all about the CL for south Americans, I doubt he's that bothered what he does week to week.
If he can cruise domestically, make a fortune and be in the CL Qtrs or better that sounds pretty sweet to me
Why is it that everytime we break the bank, we end up being served a shit sandwich? Di Maria, Berbatov, mata and fellaini early on, Veron. One shit sandwich after another.
Every coaches preferences are different, every coach is different. But Van gaal, Luis Enrique, Guardiola, De Boer or Wenger share things together, an emphasis on team play, possession, technique above everything. You can sign coaches like Heynckes and Ancelotti, they can play every style and adapt easily.
The only thing you can't do after Van gaal is sign Mourinho or Cappello, they will dismantle the team.
We look like complete mugs selling him one year after paying so much for him. I'm embarrassed to be honest! The only positive I can take is if I assume Di Maria is a complete pussy with the wrong mentality to play in the PL and that he wouldn't improve us if he stayed.
Well that's what I am saying. Ancelotti or Wenger have a style with more freedom, it's nowhere as strict as LvG's.
Sums up my view on him. Neither the player nor the man we thought he was.
But he's not really a winger, he's more of a wing-forward. His defensive contribution is too poor to play as a winger in 4231. He would only work in a 433 really, with 3 defensive minded midfielders.
He'd fit in pretty well, you make a shit point.
Bit harsh... Though I understand the sentiment.
If you look at the fee in euros we brought for and sold for it does not look quite so bad.
As for him not settling I can understand that perhaps some of fans on here find it hard to grasp but when you have a wife and kid their happiness comes first and if they hate a location or your job you would do whatever you needed to in order to change it.
I have lived and worked in several countries and sometimes it just does not click... You give it a year you try but ultimately it's just not the right fit for you and your family.
I have nothing against him and I'm not too sad to see him off to PSG but of course as a United supporter it's disappointing it seems not to have worked out.
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