He'll fit right in.
On a serious note, it's time to cut our losses before he has anotherpoor season and we sell him for even less next summer
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On a serious note, it's time to cut our losses before he has anotherpoor season and we sell him for even less next summer
Our 7 shirt seems to be jinked as of late. Wonder whos it will be next season.
he had almost 2 seasons more than di maria.
tbf ashley young took 3 years to wake the feck up. its only been 11 months since he arrived. if hes leaving because of the competition and due to a lack of a guarantee of a starting berth then yes he deserves to be derided
That is not true at all, Di Maria's name was the first on the team sheet (outfield player) until February, he started all our attacks, the ball was constantly on his feet, Fellaini wasnt even in the conversation(as a starter) until after the Arsenal game, so i don't see how you can sit there and say LVG built the team to get the best out of Fellaini, like that was the storyline of our entire season.
The fact that we created less chances than QPR should tell you the man had a really bad season, we beat City,Liverpool and Spurs with that Fellaini-Young-Herrera and Mata Combo, the winning system put Di Maria on the bench not LVG or Fellaini.
Pedro?
Pisses me off that so many have just pretty much given up on him after a year of being in and out the team. He clearly has a lot more to give yet so many are happy for us to cut losses after just a year. He's proved before that he can be devastating when on form, and actually offers creativity unlike most of the squad. People will point to this run we went on being to ADM being out the team, what about when the form ended and we didn't score for 3 games and looked more toothless than fecking Burnley. Only so much sideway passing and aimless crossing to the big man can get you. We played great for a run of 4 games. It's hardly a massive sample size that proves we play much better without Di Maria. All it proved was that with a proper midfield (Carrick mainly being the sitting midfielder) that we can play better.
There's a reason the top teams in the world would take Di Maria from our squad, and would ignore almost everyone else, yet LVG seems to be too happy to get rid as do many United fans. What's the point signing top players if they are just pushed out the door after bad form? I'm sure he would be happy to stay if the manager actually gave him good reason to. Baffling. He'll tear up the French league and the CL whilst we will sign Pedro (good player and all) and still struggle to break teams down.
No doubt he's let himself down and hasn't lived up to the hype or price tag but feck, he only started like 20 games. He could easily play brilliant for us, more likely with the solid foundation we have built with our new signings, yet somehow he's a busted flush and has no chance of rediscovering form.
There's a reason the top teams in the world would take Di Maria from our squad, and would ignore almost everyone else, yet LVG seems to be too happy to get rid as do many United fans. What's the point signing top players if they are just pushed out the door after bad form? I'm sure he would be happy to stay if the manager actually gave him good reason to. Baffling. He'll tear up the French league and the CL whilst we will sign Pedro (good player and all) and still struggle to break teams down.
No doubt he's let himself down and hasn't lived up to the hype or price tag but feck, he only started like 20 games. He could easily play brilliant for us, more likely with the solid foundation we have built with our new signings, yet somehow he's a busted flush and has no chance of rediscovering form.
So it's our manager's fault?
Despite being piss poor for half the season, and hardly even being in the team, he was still quite comfortably our most creative player. Now that might say more about the rest of our squad, then it does Di Maria, but either way its going to leave us with a massive creativity problem this season.
If we're going to win the league we're going to have to have to a) Get Di Maria playing well again b) Replace him sufficiently.
If we're going to win the league we're going to have to have to a) Get Di Maria playing well again b) Replace him sufficiently.
I think you'll find it is the other way round. Do you seriously think we (United) would be selling our biggest buy after one season if he was determined to turn things around and stay? It's clear he wants this move.
Far too many lamenting a player who simply has not played well.
Its our fault for not seeing PSGs desperation. They wanted him last year and want him badly this year, We should be milking them for every cent.
Well said. We totally got ripped off by RM over the 59.7m fee. If the reports are true, getting back 65 m Euro (46m quid) and jettisoning his 150k per week salary is not a bad deal, freeing up the wages for his replacement (Pedro). The Cavani swap was never going to happen (though it may have been raised by us) as it seems Ibra is on his way out.
Think everyone's (except for Summit who expects me to preempt a reply by like 1 minute or whatever) missing a pretty fundamental element here, if Di Maria leaves it's because he wants to leave, we aren't forcing him out of the door. I think it's pretty clear Di Maria's had issues moving over here and I don't think he's at all well adapted to the league on top of that either, sometimes things just don't work out you know. No point in forcing it.
Oh fecking no. You could say the same for every single player in our squad for at least one of the last 2 seasons (bar ddg) and you're golden boy for at least the last 2 and a half before last. Massive hypocrite.
not completely sure about that. i think its also the player. hes a high calibre player but i saw him chicken out of challenges and protect himself more than care about winning the ball too many times..and if he wants to play in the left side of a midfield three then he has to be more combative. but that being said van gaal also had to learn how to use him. he changed his position too often and experimented too much instead of persisting. not pointing the finger. as i mentioned before some managers have a certain style and some players dont fit into that immediately and maybe sometimes a little patience is required whihc in this case has not been shown (by the player? or by the manager? i dont know whats happened behind the scenes)
Yes, based on him wanting to leave then I'd accept it. As far as I'm aware the last thing he said was that he wanted to stay and improve here and win things. LVG signed him, he should have found a spot in the team to use him most effectively instead of moving him about every game then dropping him. Now we have stability you would think that would be the perfect opportunity now, yet if he is willing to give up on him so easily then feck knows what the club are doing.
I think we'd keep him if he wanted to stay. He must want out so unfortunately we might as well listen to offers.
There will be more out there with the same opinion as you and I. hehe.Adjusted accordingly.
Naturally but the larger percentage seem to be lamenting the loss of a player who really hasn't done anything for us to lament losing (other than an excellent season in a Madrid side which allowed him to shine really, I mean when everyone's busy shitting themselves about Bale and Ronaldo it's easier to find space etc.).
Di Maria was not just poor, in some games it was like taking Nani at his most mediocre for United and multiplying it by ten. He started off amazing, faded a little, got injured, came back and bar 1 or 2 decent performances was utterly dreadful. I have no idea why people can't face up to this. Maybe because fans were so excited for this signing and want it to work out for Di Maria.
I would actually keep him as I believe he could turn it round but you cannot blame the club if they cash in on a player who simply was bad. Rooney was pretty good last season until the end where he was poor, Herrera was good by the end, Mata was pretty good, players like Fellaini and Young were decent, Di Maria was just rubbish - plain and simple.
Di Maria it just didn't come off for him. When I say he was dreadful it's just that nothing he tried came off. You can see the quality is there, but it didn't fit with the Premier League in the slightest.
Would be like replacing a Ferrari with a Ford Fiesta
I wouldn't even say he started off amazingly. He had a run of 6 games against canon fodder who kept backing off him. But his general play wasn't great even then.
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That should be enough reason to keep him considering it just took some poor form and getting pushed around in several positions to get dropped when others seemed like they couldn't do anything right but keep their place. LVG made some weird calls last year. Took forever to play Herrera, persisted with a shit formation for ages and somehow didn't know how to use ADM properly. Now we have a solid looking midfield and more pace (Memphis) it would be the perfect time to find room for class like di Maria. I can blame the club. You don't sign a player and sell him within a year for playing bad in some games. That just looks bad for the club, unless like I said, if di Maria wants out desperately.
I can't believe he'll pack it in after just on season, but it seems he's on his way. He was in pretty dire form most of the season and Young was in the form of his life, yet still he managed to create and assist more than Young by quite a margin. That shows the different class they're in. If Di Maria moves, we need someone who will dislodge Young immediately, for all his fine form he just doesn't turn in the numbers we need from this position.
My personal preferance would be De Bruyne, but we don't seem to be interested.
My personal preferance would be De Bruyne, but we don't seem to be interested.
I don't want di maria to leave at all as I believe he is fantastic, but your comment is wrong. Totally wrong in fact, as di maria never lived up to your Ferrari status last season at all. Pedro would not be any worse.
See, this is just pure revisionism. So Everton and Arsenal are cannon fodder. Hmm. Wonder why our other players couldn't stand out against this so called cannon fodder. He takes risks. LVG doesn't seem to like that so the blame is at his feet if this one goes ahead. Herrera got dropped for attacking too much, and seems to be heading to the bench again whilst we have a static midfield potentially starting the season for us with little creative spark.
For those calling him spineless; has he actually said that he wants out? Seems like it's just the French press attempting to gain more readers or working as a mouthpiece for PSG to unsettle a player they like even if he does no want the move. Sure it's possible they know something but I doubt it.
Teams just dont put their record signings up for sale, LVG addressing Di Maria's future in March was weird because it almost never happens in football, record signings are usually given 2-3 seasons to showcase their abilities.
If the player is 100% committed to staying at the club it would have been clear from day 1, Ozil had a bad first season, there was no saga, Ozil leaving was a non story. Herrera to Bayern - another story that didnt last a month, Di Maria leaving has been on since December.
If the player is 100% committed to staying at the club it would have been clear from day 1, Ozil had a bad first season, there was no saga, Ozil leaving was a non story. Herrera to Bayern - another story that didnt last a month, Di Maria leaving has been on since December.
Let's blame LVG though, it's clearly all his fault.
Ozil was being linked with moves away. Arsenal fans didn't lack as much patience as some on here though because they knew Ozil was quality.
if he does get transferred we will definitely know either through van gaal or through the player himself. so far we can only guess. so those who are calling him spineless for wanting to leave are just presuming to know something that none of us know.
though i think he did show a lack of spine sometimes during matches which really annoyed me.
He was? i mean concrete links?
Because the opposition showed far too much respect to him at the start of his United career. He'll never get that again. The aura of the record transfer fee is gone.
I don't think any United fan in his/her right mind actually wants Di Maria (2013/14 Di Maria) to leave.
So you think he's destined to play like he did in those sub appearances at the end of the season? Any excuse to make the possible sale not look bad.
I'm not the Fideo biggest fan, but there's no reason to sell him
Maybe he asked to leave when LvG told him that he would have been the Young back-up for another season
Maybe he asked to leave when LvG told him that he would have been the Young back-up for another season
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