Ángel Di María | Transferred to PSG

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it seems fairly clear he wouldn't be playing central this season, so that left wide position would be the one he's competing for.

Gives the ball away way too much to play centrally for me.

But has that pace to burn outside.

I wouldn't want to see him go, as I'm not sure a new to the league Depay, Young, despite his latter resurgence and and out of position Mata is enough at all.
However, if he did go, we need to get as close to that outlay as possible.
 
Djemba-Djemba said:
If the rumours are true and PSG plan on offering £40m with no swap deal then I think we'll tell them to feck off no matter how much he wants to leave.

I think if we get a good offer, £50m at least, then we'd let him go.
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Agreed. I feel like if we are going to consider selling him, we should ensure that we recoup as much as possible for what we originally paid for him.
 
I don't really want to see us get rid of him after only one season, but if we get an offer close to what we paid I think we should consider it. If he has another season like the last then we will struggle to get a decent fee for him.

But I hope he stays and I hope he can find some form.
 
I'm a bit worried LVG has just decided he doesn't fit and will sell him. I'm taking solace from the fact I've been wrong about everything so far this summer.
 
JTW95 said:
I don't really want to see us get rid of him after only one season, but if we get an offer close to what we paid I think we should consider it. If he has another season like the last then we will struggle to get a decent fee for him.

But I hope he stays and I hope he can find some form.
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Three main requisites for me:

1. Recouping most of the fee - Shouldn't be hard. If PSG want him bad enough they know they have to pay up. We've only just signed the fellow. Pay up or feck off.

2. Him wanting to leave - I wouldn't sell him if he's committed and driven to succeed at Manchester United.

3. An Adequate Replacement - It would make no sense for us to sell him without getting a proper replacement of high quality. Even if he wants to go, and PSG are willing to pay the big bucks, I see no reason for us to weaken our squad for next season. He should just be told to get on with it in that case.
 
Tarrou said:
I'm a bit worried LVG has just decided he doesn't fit and will sell him. I'm taking solace from the fact I've been wrong about everything so far this summer.
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It could be him wanting to leave as well. In that case, we're right to be considering our options. We don't want a 60 million pound quickly depreciating asset sat on the bench with a frown on his face.
 
amolbhatia50k said:
It could be him wanting to leave as well. In that case, we're right to be considering our options. We don't want a 60 million pound quickly depreciating asset sat on the bench with a frown on his face.
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I don't think he is actively seeking a move. He has said publicly this summer that he wants to stay at United and fight for his place. Obviously he can change his mind though...
 
Tarrou said:
I'm a bit worried LVG has just decided he doesn't fit and will sell him. I'm taking solace from the fact I've been wrong about everything so far this summer.
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I don't think he'd simply sell him because he supposedly doesn't fit, since he's a player who should generally be good enough to make himself fit when he's playing well. If he's leaving, I think it's more likely that he's just not content here and hasn't settled at all.
 
I don't quite buy the "not an LVG player" argument.

* LVG does allow for less rigid types in his teams, i.e. types whose actual function is partly to be unpredictable and risk taking.

* It was LVG himself who offered Di Maria as an example of the sort of wide player we lacked some weeks prior to the deal being made.

* LVG sanctioned the transfer.

If Di Maria is, in fact, "not an LVG player" then serious questions have to be asked about LVG's judgment.
 
Chesterlestreet said:
I don't quite buy the "not an LVG player" argument.

* LVG does allow for less rigid types in his teams, i.e. types whose actual function is partly to be unpredictable and risk taking.

* It was LVG himself who offered Di Maria as an example of the sort of wide player we lacked some weeks prior to the deal being made.

* LVG sanctioned the transfer.

If Di Maria is, in fact, "not an LVG player" then serious questions have to be asked about LVG's judgment.
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You're right, we should question his judgement. Why on earth would he want to sign one of the best players in the world, who plays in a position we lack quality in?!
 
LennonNL said:
You're right, we should question his judgement. Why on earth would he want to sign one of the best players in the world, who plays in a position we lack quality in?!
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Yeah - see the "if" there?

My point is that Di Maria should be an LVG player for the very reason that LVG was the one who brought him in - and if he isn't, IF he isn't, then LVG is a bit of a muppet.
 
If he leaves it's cos he doesn't want to be here. In which case. Fair enough
 
Chesterlestreet said:
Yeah - see the "if" there?

My point is that Di Maria should be an LVG player for the very reason that LVG was the one who brought him in - and if he isn't, IF he isn't, then LVG is a bit of a muppet.
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Ah apologies, I get you! Di Maria is every managers type of player. He was immense in his last season for Real and great for Argentina for the majority of the World Cup. I'd be extremely pissed off if we let him go.
 
sunama said:
I have a question.
I've noticed time and time again, that some fans would like to see Player X be sold and in return, they want Player Y, from the club who bought Player X from us. In other words an exchange.

This "exchange" never happens.
To illustrate, lets go through our signings for the last 2 years

Bastian - we did not give Bayern any of our players
Morgan - we did not give Southampton any of our players
Darmian - we did not give Torino any of our players
Memphis - we did not give PSV any of our players

Blind - we did not give Ajax any of our players
Di Maria - we did not give Real Madrid any of our players
Herrera - we did not give Blibao any of our players
Rojo - we did not give Sporting any of our players
Shaw - we did not give Southampton any of our players

So given that exchanges rarely, if ever, happen, what makes some fans think that we will start to happen?
Am I missing something?
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we kinda did to be fair :lol:

but yes i see your point
 
Chesterlestreet said:
I don't quite buy the "not an LVG player" argument.

* LVG does allow for less rigid types in his teams, i.e. types whose actual function is partly to be unpredictable and risk taking.

* It was LVG himself who offered Di Maria as an example of the sort of wide player we lacked some weeks prior to the deal being made.

* LVG sanctioned the transfer.

If Di Maria is, in fact, "not an LVG player" then serious questions have to be asked about LVG's judgment.
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I don't think that LVG wants to get rid of him and he isn't an 'LVG player' yet. LVG is meticulous and expects players to play in a canvas, the wingers have a lot of liberty but it's still within 'boundaries'.
 
JPRouve said:
...the wingers have a lot of liberty but it's still within 'boundaries'.
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No reason why Di Maria won't be able to play that kind of game. He isn't a luxury player, nor is he undisciplined - he's just a player who has to play a fairly high risk sort of game in order to be at his best. He can easily do that within an LVG model as long as the rest of the team is in place.
 
Chesterlestreet said:
No reason why Di Maria won't be able to play that kind of game. He isn't a luxury player, nor is he undisciplined - he's just a player who has to play a fairly high risk sort of game in order to be at his best. He can easily do that within an LVG model as long as the rest of the team is in place.
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That's why I said 'yet', I suspect that Van gaal liked Di Maria's raw qualities not how he uses them. With time he can adapt
 
He's gone, I think. Too much smoke in media. I don't think he can ever relate to LVG and his so-called philosophy. I believe he's too adventurous and single-mided for LVG to work with.

I think Chelsea might be a perfect team for him. He knows Mou already, and they are looking for a wide player like him. I can almost gurantee him tearing up the league if Mou gets a hold of him with Cesc and Matic covering him.
 
Yeah let's sell a player capable of performances like this



Even in this game he made mistakes but that's because he is a risk taker. We can definitely afford one risk taker in the team when they have this kind of ability.
 
Orc said:
Maybe you guys can return that Juan Mata favor and sell him to us. ;)
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We stepped back to allow you to have Falcao - so the favour is repaid in full :)

I don't want us to sell Di Maria at all, but if we do sell him to a fecking sugar daddy club at a loss then I'll be very pissed-off. FFP seems doomed, but even so I don't think UEFA have actually shot-down any of the ridiculous sponsorship deals PSG or City have invented, so PSG can just create another one of them if they want to appear to be complying whilst getting Di Maria. Otherwise they can feck-off IMHO :angel:
 
It irks me seeing a few posts in the past dozen pages or so saying that the club should be more patient and that we're giving up on him.
Surely most people can see that it's obvious that if he does indeed go, it's because he wants to leave and not us wanting him to leave.
 
Hernandez - BFA said:
It irks me seeing a few posts in the past dozen pages or so saying that the club should be more patient and that we're giving up on him.
Surely most people can see that it's obvious that if he does indeed go, it's because he wants to leave and not us wanting him to leave.
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ADM and Falcao were signings made to show that we can attract top class talent and if we cant keep hold of them (in case of ADM), it doesn't look good on the club.

So, atleast for me, the club should try to avoid any negotiations even if the transfer fee is ridiculous, at least for another year. Provide him assurance about his role. I think the frustration from the fans is because all the noise points towards the fact that we are open if the offer is right. Along with De Gea he is one player we should try the most to keep in the squad for next year and we don't seem to be doing that at least for now.
 
bleedred said:
ADM and Falcao were signings made to show that we can attract top class talent and if we cant keep hold of them (in case of ADM), it doesn't look good on the club.

So, atleast for me, the club should try to avoid any negotiations even if the transfer fee is ridiculous, at least for another year. Provide him assurance about his role. I think the frustration from the fans is because all the noise points towards the fact that we are open if the offer is right. Along with De Gea he is one player we should try the most to keep in the squad for next year and we don't seem to be doing that at least for now.
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We have made De Gea an amazing offer by the sounds of things...
 
If he goes, we'll have to get someone else in. Is there any wingers that would offer up the same kind of pedigree that ADM has that would available for a similar price?
 
Clubs are sniffing around because they think he will force a move and be let to leave on the cheap.

No chance.


Would gladly take £45m for him though.
 
Baxter said:
If he goes, we'll have to get someone else in. Is there any wingers that would offer up the same kind of pedigree that ADM has that would available for a similar price?
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Not really the same but Griezmann would be my pick. Can play up top as well.

I can't see him going for a loss, certainly in Euros but I'd hope in GBP as well. Lots of time left on his contract, so if he wants out then someone needs to match that valuation.
 
Flying_Heckfish said:
Not really the same but Griezmann would be my pick. Can play up top as well.

I can't see him going for a loss, certainly in Euros but I'd hope in GBP as well. Lots of time left on his contract, so if he wants out then someone needs to match that valuation.
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Griezmann is almost a striker. Played wide for Sociedad but didn't look all that great wide for Atletico and then improved a lot through the middle.

mancan92 said:
Yeah let's sell a player capable of performances like this



Even in this game he made mistakes but that's because he is a risk taker. We can definitely afford one risk taker in the team when they have this kind of ability.
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Watching that, it was clearly a confidence issue last year. They way he drives at players was something he did for his first couple of months at Utd. He wasn't attempting the same things later on. If we can get him confident and motivated then there is no reason why he could not produce similar for us. That's why I would be pissed of if we were looking to get rid of him, or he has given up here.
 
Baxter said:
Griezmann is almost a striker. Played wide for Sociedad but didn't look all that great wide for Atletico and then improved a lot through the middle.
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I think that's a good thing, potentially, for an LvG 4-3-3. What LvG and Simeone look for in a wide player is different so I don't think we can hold that against him. In fact, that he has experience playing in both positions is great. Same as with Memphis, he can play as a wide forward or a central striker, which would give us a fluid forward line and options if we pick up injuries.

I still think AdM can play the wing role and I hope he gives it a shot, anyway.
 
He will absolutely be sold very soon..He didn't settle in Manchester and in a few days we will have news that he is gone and that will be best for everyone
 
Ringo 07 said:
He will absolutely be sold very soon..He didn't settle in Manchester and in a few days we will have news that he is gone and that will be best for everyone
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No it isn't. He is one of the best players in the world and could be fantastic for the team if he gets settled.

What's the point in selling him now? We won't get anyone better. We won't get Cavani in return, not that I want him.

It would be madness to sell him.
 
mancan92 said:
Yeah let's sell a player capable of performances like this

Even in this game he made mistakes but that's because he is a risk taker. We can definitely afford one risk taker in the team when they have this kind of ability.
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For me, selling Di Maria would ruin the good work that was done last week. I really believe it would be crazy. We should be looking to buy the best players in the world, not sell them and especially not at a reduced rate.
 
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