Ángel Di María | Transferred to PSG

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Assuming he stays, is it reasonable to expect him to perform well on the right as an inside forward?

That's the only position I see him getting regular playing time in.
I think so, but not if you're expecting the usual forward who will score plenty. Di Maria has always been a creator first and a goalscorer second.
 
Seems it would be difficult for PSG to put together an acceptable financial package given the exchange rate, even with FFP easing up. Isn't he also one of our highest wage earners as well?

1. Rooney
2. ...AdM?

He's gone. Get the feeling he never wanted to be here and to think people were offended at the possibility of him leaving not a few hours ago. 40m and Lucas would be an excellent deal for us.

I just don't get the sense he is as thrilled to play for us as our other new signings. The 2nd half of the season he was mentally not here at all and if he is still open to a transfer let him go.

Agreed...40M + Lucas Moura would be a great deal for us.
 
I just don't get the sense he is as thrilled to play for us as our other new signings. The 2nd half of the season he was mentally not here at all and if he is still open to a transfer let him go.

Agreed...40M + Lucas Moura would be a great deal for us.
Sounds like a silly deal with for them though. Moura is highly rated isn't he? More than 20 million surely. I don't see them paying us around 70 million for us when we overpaid and he under performed.
 
Sounds like a silly deal with for them though. Moura is highly rated isn't he? More than 20 million surely. I don't see them paying us around 70 million for us when we overpaid and he under performed.

Moura is highly rated, not to mention they paid about €45M for him, which is almost a Neymar-esque figure.
PSG have wanted ADM for years now so perhaps around €20M + Lucas?

I always thought if SAF got his hands on Lucas early he could have been something really special, but he is still young and an amazing RW who I think would do well in the EPL
 
Moura is highly rated, not to mention they paid about €45M for him, which is almost a Neymar-esque figure.
PSG have wanted ADM for years now so perhaps around €20M + Lucas?

I always thought if SAF got his hands on Lucas early he could have been something really special, but he is still young and an amazing RW who I think would do well in the EPL

We'll be chasing impossible dreams if we think they'll hand us Moura, it's as crazy as asking for Verratti. I just can't seem them including one of two potentially brilliant players in a deal for di Maria. They're more likely to include Ibra, Cavani or Lavezzi.
 
Not really. I don't care what any of our players do with their NT's or how they perform. The yardstick will always be how they've done for us.

Regardless, performances against the might of Jamaica and Paraguay probably wouldn't have excited me even if I had watched those games which I didn't. I watched the final where he didn't do much if anything.

I really don't have any agenda against Di Maria as you seem to imply (Not everyone is you eh). In fact most of my posts on this thread are very positive towards him. I also think he's our most creative player and would rather he stay than leave if it were up to me. But all in all he's been rather shite. The only reason I still wanted him to start was because he at least tried to create something unlike the rest (except Young).
If you're talking about the Copa final, I hope you realize he got subbed after 30 minutes with a hamstring injury.
 
We'll be chasing impossible dreams if we think they'll hand us Moura, it's as crazy as asking for Verratti. I just can't seem them including one of two potentially brilliant players in a deal for di Maria. They're more likely to include Ibra, Cavani or Lavezzi.
We should ask them to sod off if they intend on doing that. United is not a club where you push your unwanted players to.
 
Sounds like a silly deal with for them though. Moura is highly rated isn't he? More than 20 million surely. I don't see them paying us around 70 million for us when we overpaid and he under performed.
It would be equally silly of us to take a hit on our marquee signing of last year who is still a brilliant player and especially if PSG are desperate. Not to mention he still has 4 years remaining on his contract.
 
We'll be chasing impossible dreams if we think they'll hand us Moura, it's as crazy as asking for Verratti. I just can't seem them including one of two potentially brilliant players in a deal for di Maria. They're more likely to include Ibra, Cavani or Lavezzi.
IMO, nothing wrong in asking Moura especially with Woody on our side,between how good was Moura last season for them?
 
Would using him as bait to bring Lewandowski be viable. That's probably the only way i'd be happy to see him leave
 
Would using him as bait to bring Lewandowski be viable. That's probably the only way i'd be happy to see him leave
I would love Lewandowski here but that would either put Rooney on the bench (while he is on massive wages) or in midfield, while we will still have to look for a top wide player. It only makes it messier for us while unbalancing the squad, which LVG hates.
 
It would be equally silly of us to take a hit on our marquee signing of last year who is still a brilliant player and especially if PSG are desperate. Not to mention he still has 4 years remaining on his contract.
I don't disagree but if it turns out that he doesn't want to play for us we have to get rid.
 
His 30 minutes wasn't enough time to have a great impact on the game. If I remember correctly Messi and Aguero didn't do much in that time either. I don't get why you expected more.

I didn't say I did. I only said Di Maria didn't do much and I brought it up because that was the only game I watched.
 
I don't disagree but if it turns out that he doesn't want to play for us we have to get rid.
Yes but we need to make sure we are treated like a motel for these players. If he wants to go, PSG can either pay the money we want or include a player we want from them.
 
We'll be chasing impossible dreams if we think they'll hand us Moura, it's as crazy as asking for Verratti. I just can't seem them including one of two potentially brilliant players in a deal for di Maria. They're more likely to include Ibra, Cavani or Lavezzi.


If they think we will give up ADM to them just like that they are mistaken, ask DDG how his exit strategy has worked out for him so far. We dont want Ibra and Lavezzi and Cavani means Rooney is played in the midfield again (or RF?)
 
I still think our attack is lacking goals/creativity if Di Maria doesn't perform next season, let alone if he's sold.

If he does go, and we don't replace him, I don't we have enough goals in the team to win the title.
 
I still think our attack is lacking goals/creativity if Di Maria doesn't perform next season, let alone if he's sold.

If he does go, and we don't replace him, I don't we have enough goals in the team to win the title.

Unless we have that 20+ poacher who can inspire the whole team (RVP season).
 
Yes but we need to make sure we are treated like a motel for these players. If he wants to go, PSG can either pay the money we want or include a player we want from them.
Yup.

I'm not too concern about the centre back position. I think we'll fill that adequately this summer.

It's the creative attacker (for which we got Di Maria) and striker right now that I'm concerned about. The latter, because there seems to be barely anyone available, and the latter, because I'm just hearing Di Maria being linked but not us with anyone coming in, let alone someone of that quality.
 
Its kind of depressing a player like Di Maria who possess so much ability and is clearly a world class player at his best can't fit in at our club. To sell him just one season afterwards would be madness. If he recaptures his real madrid form for us then we could very well challenge for the title. Without him of course we could anyway but he unlocks defences better then most players in the world.

Id be gutted if he left but if he's gonna be as good as last season we might aswell take a deal involving a huge amount of cash and Cavani probably off PSG. Only because he's a player we could do with, but id much much rather keep Di Maria.
 
Even that season it took a lot of the "fergie spirit" from the team to be as good as they were, and our rivals to be a bit shit.

Sure. The positive aspect for me is that LVG will guard the standard with his system. No player can be assured that he will automatically play ( besides the captain) and therefore every player that is fielded will have to give it his all in order to keep his place. Likewise the togetherness of the team has improved positively. There is one goal, one system, you either believe in it our you are out. Call it ruthless, but a proven winner surely has characteristics that will raise questions with critics/media and others. Pep is well known for being a control freak and Sir Alex had that edge that kept everything in place and commanded respect. Mourinho likewise also works with a code with respect, he will keep his hand above your head, but if you breach his manner of work you will be dismissed. Sure you also have the Ancelotti's of this world who have a more tender 'father' figure way of managing that has proven to be successfull, but in this day and age with all the milionairs in the dressing room, i'd rather choose for an authority who will command respect with his personality.
 
If they want him, I want Verratti + 35 million

With the acquisitions of Schneiderlin and Schweinsteiger, we do not need Verratti anymore.
If we get rid of ADM, the player we could use from PSG is Lucas Moura.
 
If we're going to keep him, I hope Van Gaal picks a formation that makes the most of his positives and mitigates his weaknesses.

But really he was so poor, even with short passes, it seemed almost entirely mental with him. He looked like an 18 year old on his debut, just panicking and kicking it right to the nearest opponent.

I thought he was quite invisible when playing on the wing.

If we're not prepared to put him in a three man midfield or play him as the attacking midfielder behind a single striker, then I hope we sell him.
 
I always felt he would leave for PSG this summer, I was surprised earlier when he announced he'd like to stay and fight it out here, but it once again looks as if he'll be on his way to PSG,
If he want's to go, then we should let him, particuarly if his wife still has issues here, at the end of the day, we won't miss the Di Maria we had over the last 4-5 months of the season at all.
 
There are only 3 clubs or so who could rationally take AdM because of price and wages - PSG, Bayern, and Madrid (Barca wouldn't be interested and we would never sell to a British rival). I hope he stays, but if he does go, PSG would seem most logical.
 
There are only 3 clubs or so who could rationally take AdM because of price and wages - PSG, Bayern, and Madrid (Barca wouldn't be interested and we would never sell to a British rival). I hope he stays, but if he does go, PSG would seem most logical.

It seems a longterm flirtation with them as well, in the summer where he ended up joining us, it seemed by his statements over the summer, that PSG seemed his preffered destination, you have to wonder if PSG didn't have the fair play restrictions hanging over their head last summer, would Di Maria even be a United player at this point.
Anyway.. if he wants to go, and more importantly his wife is still agitating for a move to Paris then it would seem foolish, at least to me, forcing him to stay.
 
If they think we will give up ADM to them just like that they are mistaken, ask DDG how his exit strategy has worked out for him so far. We dont want Ibra and Lavezzi and Cavani means Rooney is played in the midfield again (or RF?)

There's a huge difference though. Both De Gea and di Maria (reportedly) want to leave, with clubs wishing to buy them. PSG seem to have no intentions of selling Moura, and, as far as I'm aware, he hasn't asked to leave. Plus PSG have the money... If they come knocking with a big enough offer (more than what we paid), then we'll sell. They definitely (my opinion) won't include Moura in the deal.

The De Gea situation is slightly different, as Ramos (reportedly) has asked to leave, and, if true, then I think we may see a deal before the start of the season. This way, it looks like both clubs tried as hard as possible to convince their respective players to stay without seemingly giving into the demands of the opposition clubs.

It's all based on rumours, though. I firmly believe di Maria doesn't want to leave.
 
I have a question.
I've noticed time and time again, that some fans would like to see Player X be sold and in return, they want Player Y, from the club who bought Player X from us. In other words an exchange.

This "exchange" never happens.
To illustrate, lets go through our signings for the last 2 years

Bastian - we did not give Bayern any of our players
Morgan - we did not give Southampton any of our players
Darmian - we did not give Torino any of our players
Memphis - we did not give PSV any of our players

Blind - we did not give Ajax any of our players
Di Maria - we did not give Real Madrid any of our players
Herrera - we did not give Blibao any of our players
Rojo - we did not give Sporting any of our players
Shaw - we did not give Southampton any of our players

So given that exchanges rarely, if ever, happen, what makes some fans think that we will start to happen?
Am I missing something?
 
With Rojo, we did give them Nani for free for one season. But I can't recall a straight swap involving players as big as AdM/Moura/Cavani off the top of my head.

(Can't say Ramos/ De Gea just yet...)
 
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With Rojo, we did give them Nanj for free for one season. But I can't recall an straight swap involving players as big as AdM/Moura/Cavani off the top of my head.

(Can't say Ramos/ De Gea just yet...)
Ibra and Eto'o, although there was a lot of money involved in that one too
 
Anyone knows how much we paid for him without addons.
 
If the rumours are true and PSG plan on offering £40m with no swap deal then I think we'll tell them to feck off no matter how much he wants to leave.

I think if we get a good offer, £50m at least, then we'd let him go.
 
Maybe you guys can return that Juan Mata favor and sell him to us. ;)
 
We won't let him go easily and for a small fee. Not with what's happening with De Gea - with him we're in a poor position, having a player with only one year on his contract and wanting the move badly (apparently), yet Woody is making things impossible for Madrid with demanding a world-record fee for a keeper/Ramos in any deal for De Gea. That's why Real haven't signed him yet and it looks increasingly likely that he'll stay for at least one more season with us with both clubs refusing to compromise.

Di Maria has 4 years left on his contract. Even if he wants to leave, we're not forced to sell him by any means. We're in a strong position in this situation, so PSG won't sign him for 40 fecking million. I expect him to leave though - unlike De Gea, he's not really indispensable for us at the moment, so I think we're more open to his sale than to De Gea's departure.

PS: I'd hate it if he joins PSG though, as it's such a fecking shit club that won the lottery with their owners and now they think they're as big a club as Manchester United. Feck off.
 
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