We do now. Called Depay.
Ángel Di María | Transferred to PSG
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Valencia I can agree (but his pace with the ball at his feet is not even half), Depay as well (though he is new and will be on the opposite wing to Di Maria). Wilson and Hernandez are not starters. Shaw and Young are decent but not really quick. Don't know about Darmian at all tbh. Rooney is no longer the explosive forward he once was and Januzaj is also not a starter for us currently.
Again, I meant pace with the ball at his feet which would include dribbling. None of the players you mentioned, maybe barring Januzaj (cannot comment on Darmian or Depay), actually possess that. Young for example is nowhere near quick when he is running with the ball. Same goes for Valencia.
If he's even half as good as those 4 he'll have had an excellent debut season
He will.
If we put di Maria up for sale at around £40m, I think every big team around the globe would be very interested; yet the majority on here would still be hoping we'd sell him.
Of course, it all depends in whether he's comfortable living here. However, I do think van Gaal should have used the press conference, from the other day, to show that we're almost desperate for him to stay.
I'd like to see him up front to be honest, I remember seeing in that role for the Reserves/U21's a couple of years ago and I thought he was superb. His movement, touch and hold up play were great, albeit at a lower level. However, I'd like to see him there again.
As a striker? I'm not sure since I've never seen him play there. One of his strengths is finding that through ball and making defense splitting passes. What better place to execute that than behind the striker?
It's funny. It seems we don't need a player who can run at defenders and frighten them just because we have Depay. He doesn't solve every problem as much as people have decided he's the new Ronaldo.
Not as a traditional striker, sort of false No.9, that's how he played it in the Reserves anyway.
I would not mind him leaving, if we address his departure and the need for a striker by getting the best friend pairing of Reus and Lewandowski.
-------------Lewandowski-----------------
-Reus---------Rooney------------Mata----
-------Morgan-----Bastian------------------
Shaw---Smalling--Ota/Ramos------darmian
--------------Lloris--------------------------
Depay, Young, Herrera, Carrick, Jones, Rojo, Romero
How good is that 18 man match squad?
-------------Lewandowski-----------------
-Reus---------Rooney------------Mata----
-------Morgan-----Bastian------------------
Shaw---Smalling--Ota/Ramos------darmian
--------------Lloris--------------------------
Depay, Young, Herrera, Carrick, Jones, Rojo, Romero
How good is that 18 man match squad?
We're going to sell him aren't we, big fecking mistake
totally agree, he's just very inconsistent as winger, the most frustrating player ever, Nani was brilliant at his worst comparing him to DiMaría.. he's best as attacking mid from the center but he will never get that much time after we bought players we bought, maybe he will fight Herrera and Fellaini for the attacking mid next season, maybe he could play with Herrera in front of Schneiderlin who would provide much more solid base than Carrick or Blind, in that case that would be fantastic cover of positions and he could have game here and there on the wing if needed but I an see him leaving anyway, he looks like coward to me.
Angel di Maria will have to formally ask Manchester United for a transfer if he wants to leave Old Trafford.
With his wife unhappy in Manchester and Paris Saint-Germain keen to sign the Premier League’s record signing — he cost £59.7million — it seems as though the winger’s career at United could come to an end after just one season.
But despite signing one wide player in Memphis Depay and exploring the possibility of another in Barcelona’s Pedro, United manager Louis van Gaal still sees Di Maria as an integral part of his first-team squad.
United are not encouraging interest from PSG or anybody else and the message from club insiders here in America’s north-west this week has been very much that Di Maria is not for sale.
It seems that if Di Maria wants to get out of England badly enough then he will have to force the issue.
Submitting a transfer request is always the modern player’s last resort simply because it waives any right to a financial pay off. But United have stressed this week that they are not in the habit of selling world-class players after only 12 months.
While there is an understanding inside Old Trafford that Di Maria has suffered some personal issues during his time at the club — his house was broken into while he and his family were at home — there is also a belief that they are not so severe they cannot be solved.
Van Gaal believes that if Di Maria can show some consistent form on the pitch and stay injury-free then things away from the field may fall in to place.
That, however, remains to be seen. For example, Manchester City considered a bid for Di Maria during their stand-off with Liverpool over Raheem Sterling, only to be told by those close to him that there was no point trying given his wife’s desire to get out of the north-west.
Di Maria is not in America with United because he has been given extra time off in the wake of his participation in the Copa America with Argentina. He is due to arrive here on July 25 in time for United’s final tour game in Chicago.
He will be joined on that day by fellow South and Central Americans Marcos Rojo and Javier Hernandez and it may yet be that the latter’s career at Old Trafford is given fresh life by Van Gaal.
Having spent last season on loan at Real Madrid, it was considered that Hernandez’s time at United was pretty much over. The striker’s career had started well under Sir Alex Ferguson but stalled in the following years.
Van Gaal, however, said after this weekend’s win over Club America in Seattle that the sale of Robin van Persie and the release on loan of Radamel Falcao had offered Hernandez fresh opportunity.
‘He is coming on the 25th so, OK, he can prove himself again,’ said Van Gaal. ‘Falcao and Van Persie have gone, so his chances are better now. I am not worried about the depth of our strikers. We still have Wayne Rooney who can play as a striker. We also have Chicharito and James Wilson and maybe a surprise comes. You never know.’
After the best part of a week in Seattle, United will fly south to San Jose for two games in California.
It seems, however, that one player who may have to wait for some action is Marouane Fellaini.
The Belgian midfielder infuriated Van Gaal on the final day of last season at Hull when he was sent off for violent conduct, meaning that he will miss the first three games of the new domestic season.
He was one of only two players — the other was youngster Sean Goss — who did not get on the field here on Friday night and it would appear he may face a wait to get back in to Van Gaal’s team.
‘Fellaini is suspended for the first three matches and he has longer to be ready, so I have to look at other players,’ said the Dutchman.
With his wife unhappy in Manchester and Paris Saint-Germain keen to sign the Premier League’s record signing — he cost £59.7million — it seems as though the winger’s career at United could come to an end after just one season.
But despite signing one wide player in Memphis Depay and exploring the possibility of another in Barcelona’s Pedro, United manager Louis van Gaal still sees Di Maria as an integral part of his first-team squad.
United are not encouraging interest from PSG or anybody else and the message from club insiders here in America’s north-west this week has been very much that Di Maria is not for sale.
It seems that if Di Maria wants to get out of England badly enough then he will have to force the issue.
Submitting a transfer request is always the modern player’s last resort simply because it waives any right to a financial pay off. But United have stressed this week that they are not in the habit of selling world-class players after only 12 months.
While there is an understanding inside Old Trafford that Di Maria has suffered some personal issues during his time at the club — his house was broken into while he and his family were at home — there is also a belief that they are not so severe they cannot be solved.
Van Gaal believes that if Di Maria can show some consistent form on the pitch and stay injury-free then things away from the field may fall in to place.
That, however, remains to be seen. For example, Manchester City considered a bid for Di Maria during their stand-off with Liverpool over Raheem Sterling, only to be told by those close to him that there was no point trying given his wife’s desire to get out of the north-west.
Di Maria is not in America with United because he has been given extra time off in the wake of his participation in the Copa America with Argentina. He is due to arrive here on July 25 in time for United’s final tour game in Chicago.
He will be joined on that day by fellow South and Central Americans Marcos Rojo and Javier Hernandez and it may yet be that the latter’s career at Old Trafford is given fresh life by Van Gaal.
Having spent last season on loan at Real Madrid, it was considered that Hernandez’s time at United was pretty much over. The striker’s career had started well under Sir Alex Ferguson but stalled in the following years.
Van Gaal, however, said after this weekend’s win over Club America in Seattle that the sale of Robin van Persie and the release on loan of Radamel Falcao had offered Hernandez fresh opportunity.
‘He is coming on the 25th so, OK, he can prove himself again,’ said Van Gaal. ‘Falcao and Van Persie have gone, so his chances are better now. I am not worried about the depth of our strikers. We still have Wayne Rooney who can play as a striker. We also have Chicharito and James Wilson and maybe a surprise comes. You never know.’
After the best part of a week in Seattle, United will fly south to San Jose for two games in California.
It seems, however, that one player who may have to wait for some action is Marouane Fellaini.
The Belgian midfielder infuriated Van Gaal on the final day of last season at Hull when he was sent off for violent conduct, meaning that he will miss the first three games of the new domestic season.
He was one of only two players — the other was youngster Sean Goss — who did not get on the field here on Friday night and it would appear he may face a wait to get back in to Van Gaal’s team.
‘Fellaini is suspended for the first three matches and he has longer to be ready, so I have to look at other players,’ said the Dutchman.
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When does he join up with the squad?
Di Maria is fantastic but I'm not convinced he is integratable into LvG's system. He's a bit too much of an roaming improvisationalist, which whilst great for the likes of Madrid and Argentina, can be a bit disruptive to LvG's hyper possession oriented approach. That said, I think LvG is going to have to cut AdM some slack if he wants the best out of him, which I think he will do.
I couldn't careless if he leaves tbh, the thing is we won't miss him at all because he was so ineffective last season it's not as if he would be leaving a huge gap such as when Ronaldo left us.
I know it's cool to hate on cavani but I'd swap them in a heartbeat if there's that option, cavani would play well in LVG system and he would offer much more than ADM does currently.
I know it's cool to hate on cavani but I'd swap them in a heartbeat if there's that option, cavani would play well in LVG system and he would offer much more than ADM does currently.
Rooney as the #10?
He has cut him some slack to be fair mate.
He's constantly said how it's been hard for him and how he needs to settle...Plus, that "injury" against Hull was a bit odd to say the least. And LVG, like the time Ronnie ran off the pitch and Fergie defended him, defended Di Maria.....So he's cut him an enormous amount of slack IMO
LVG also defended his dreadful cameo against WBA....And he walked off the pitch that day laughing and joking. LVG has thrown many an arm around that lad
No I'm pretty sure going forward LVG will be using 433 he seems to love that so it'd be Rooney having to fight for his striker spot. He's been putting in average perfromances for awhile now, i sont think anyone can deny that so someone like cavani can come in and keep rooney ontop of his game and give him some competition for his spot, that said Cavani can play out wide too though.
So itd be either
Depay - cavani - mata , with Rooney benched
Or
Depay - rooney - cavani, with mata benched
If ADM leaves than we will get Pedro. At 22m he's a bargain
I would like the luxury of 2 top strikers competing for 1 spot but I cant see it happening. Think we're more likely to get a Lacazette than a Cavani. Someone who will push Rooney but will be the 2nd choice capable of taking over and not someone as good as him. I also think it'd see Rooney play as the #10 inevitably which I would hate.
The 2nd option won't happen. Cavani wanting to leave PSG is because he's played out wide, wont move to us to play there again.
Very pleased that we're not letting him go on the cheap. PSG can go do one..
PSG crying on about United and di Maria. 
PSG crying on about United and di Maria.
Can't make it up!
I love Woody. Those french cnuts can do one.
Rooney is undroppable. LVG has already made this totally clear and demonstrated this in every game last year.
Cavani - he isn't a Utd player, so I don't understand why you are including him in our line-up.
Depay - you expect an unproven player (in the EPL) to start ahead of Young? Young, who was one our best outfield players last season?
IMO, our first choice front 3 will be:
Young - Rooney - Mata
Depay will provide cover for Young and Rooney.
Valencia is available if we need a RW.
Fellaini is also available to play in the front 3.
Wilson can provide cover for Rooney.
Another striker (probably Pedro), may also be an option if to provide cover for any of the front 3.
L'equipe running the story PSG don't want to pay the fee we want, I could've told you that a while ago. They don't have the funds to afford him, nor do they do swap deals. They haven't got bucketloads of cash to splash now their punishment is lifted, they still need to balance their books and break even this year.
BM already confirmed they won't sell players to us and that they never do swap deals so that pretty much leaves the scenario open of BM throwing 85m Euro our way: their current transfer fee record is 40m Euro Javi Martinez (calculated with weak euro, probably was less). Can't see it happening.
BM already confirmed they won't sell players to us and that they never do swap deals so that pretty much leaves the scenario open of BM throwing 85m Euro our way: their current transfer fee record is 40m Euro Javi Martinez (calculated with weak euro, probably was less). Can't see it happening.
The only two clubs you could imagine forcing United to sell would be the two in Spain, but even Madrid have been told to do one this year. PSG either need to stump up whatever they've been told to pay, or they need give up.
They set a precedent by paying £50m for David Luiz. United aren't going to let go of Di Maria for less than that.
They set a precedent by paying £50m for David Luiz. United aren't going to let go of Di Maria for less than that.
We can easily afford to let ADM stay another season and risk him being 'poor' again. PSG will still want him and pay roughly the same then. Every chance he could have a big season for us and find the love at United in the process.
How is he supposedly agreeing a contract with PSG yet the clubs haven't agreed a fee? Papers always mention this but it's illegal in football is it not?
How is he supposedly agreeing a contract with PSG yet the clubs haven't agreed a fee? Papers always mention this but it's illegal in football is it not?
It is, but I think it's generally accepted it goes on these days.
We won't sell him on the cheap though regardless of whether he wants out or not. Had we wanted rid of him then it might be a different story but if he goes, I think we'll get close to our money back. If PSG can't stump that up because of FFP as the poster here mentioned earlier, he'll stay.
None of that makes sense you didn't read my previous posts
If our front 3 going into next season is young - Rooney - mata then were the feck are our goals coming from we will be lucky if they mange 25 goals between them. We need a proper goal scorer and rooney should be dropped until he improves his form. We still need another striker and pedro isn't the answer.
I'm including cavani because I'd swap him and ADM in a shot. Why keep someone who obviously doesn't want to be here.
Using your examples Valencia at RW, fellaini up front and Wilson to cover Rooney is laughable. If there our only options going into next season we might as well give up now.
Can't see us buying or swapping Cavani as it would put us right back into the Rooney/RvP conundrum of last year. Pedro makes more sense since he is a bit more adaptable to different attacking roles.
Agreed.
I just can't see Pedro ever bening a 15 to 20 premier league goals forward.
Pretty sure he's scored something close to 100 in 300 for Barcelona. Can't see why he couldn't replicate something similar in the PL. I guess, you'd expect around 8-12 goals from Pedro, if we signed him.
Young is fine if we intend on finishing 4th again.
Depay will be the first choice LW, if not from the first game then by the end of September at the latest.
I'm really happy for Ashley Young and his improvements last season, but there's no way I'd have him as a guaranteed starter. If we keep hold of di Maria, then I'd hope he'd be a starter from the outset. If he reaches the level he showed in 13/14, which is the aim, then we could be an incredible force.
We need a 20+ striker
Pedro's one of those guys if you give him an opportunity, more often than not he'll bury it, the issue being, at Barca they carve out 10x more chances than we do per game on average, his goals record at Barca is excellent but I wonder how many chances would fall his way in the current United team, particuarly if we let ADM go who, when in form is easily the most creative spark in our squad.
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