Wasn't completely convinced with this signing but now that we got him it would be a total waste of time to sell after only one season. But if he doesn't see himself happy in Manchester there is little chance of seing the player we paid for.
Ángel Di María | Transferred to PSG
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I am basing it off his career showings here in Manchester United. Is he on some kind of program to help him deal with the physicality of the league? Is he on tour, bedding in with the other players and adapting better to LvG's system? No, and not his fault (injured and Copa America), but those would be indications that he could improve.
I like Di Maria and I stood by him longer than most of the Caf did last year but I'm not going to say that he's going to be back to his 2013/2014 performances based on nothing.
What month was his house burgled?
would be surprised if we let him go already but if his family issues really that big and we get a substantial fee i'd understand it and you could argue it'd be the right thing for all concerned, we are all meant to be human beings after all.
however if his family is not a problem and its all being blown out of proportion then there's no way we let him go, we've made a huge investment in him and should expect repaying on the pitch. he's world class at his peak and could be the difference between winning titles or not. i do think however he'll struggle to get games in CM under LVG he's too risky and will find his place on the wing or as a wide forward
however if his family is not a problem and its all being blown out of proportion then there's no way we let him go, we've made a huge investment in him and should expect repaying on the pitch. he's world class at his peak and could be the difference between winning titles or not. i do think however he'll struggle to get games in CM under LVG he's too risky and will find his place on the wing or as a wide forward
Early February.
I don't think the club wants him gone. But I do think Di Maria does want to move. And IF that's the case 50m is very good money.
I've given you a ton of reasons why he'd want to stay so I'd love to hear why you think he wants out. Aside from the French media saying it is going to happen and Portuguese press using it to sell the Gaitan to United story.
It seems United fans struggle to believe we have world class player in our squad and are constantly looking for reasons to see him leave.
He wanted to go there to start off with until FFP fecked it up. So, he was willing to go there so the whole EPL > Ligue 1 or United > PSG doesn't really wash. PSG have about as much chance at winning the CL as we do. He's on the bench here and clearly struggles with the physicality of the league. Then you add in the burglary and that Paris is likely more desirable than Manchester then I can see why he might want to leave.
We've had plenty of world class players over the years so I'm not sure why any United fan would struggle to believe that?
I don't want him to leave as I've said before. I'd rather he stay and fight for his place. But if he wants to leave I wouldn't be bothered and would take that 50m.The first few months for expats are usually called the honeymoon period. Things are new and exciting and you are generally happy. Then culture shock settles in and you are often inefficient at work. You struggle to adapt at work and when you get home you meet frustrated family members who are also dealing with culture shock. Slowly you start to adapt. If you ride it through chances are great that you will eventually become happy. The different stages and the length are individual of course but it is not a long shot to think that the burglar happened at a time when he was struggling with life in Manchester.
Well when you are retired having won things for Manchester United is a bigger merit than for PSG. And the Premier League is a much more highly rated league. He probably sees that good things are happening at United now as well. We are clearly at a much nicer stage now than in the beginning of last pre-season.
This taking and running thing I think we need to give him time. Premier League must be the most difficult league to play in.
If I was a Man Utd player, the only thing I'd value higher in France than in Manchester would be the cuisine
Yes, and the first few months were also summer/autumn. The winter months in Spain and Argentina are probably quite a bit easier than in England, not to mention Sweden where I come from. I don't think we should underestimate that people who come from a much warmer climate with more sun in the winter can need time to adapt.
He wanted to go there to start off with until FFP fecked it up. So, he was willing to go there so the whole EPL > Ligue 1 or United > PSG doesn't really wash. PSG have about as much chance at winning the CL as we do. He's on the bench here and clearly struggles with the physicality of the league. Then you add in the burglary and that Paris is likely more desirable than Manchester then I can see why he might want to leave.
We've had plenty of world class players over the years so I'm not sure why any United fan would struggle to believe that?
What evidence is there he wanted to go to PSG? Didn't his wife show much more appreciation towards United-fans than PSG-fans?
Not sure Paris is more safe than England nowadays tbh. I would much rather live in the worst suburbs of Manchester than in the general suburb of Paris.
It's not only the CL. He's allready won it firstly, and quite recently as well. Secondly, Manchester United is a much bigger club than PSG. We will allways have the weather and maybe the food to our disadvantage but the history and stature of United beats the living crap out of PSG IMO. Especially for a South American. Thirdly, I think United treats its players differently than many other clubs, both the staff and even more the fans does. LVG bore witness of it when he talked about entering the stadium for a home game after 3 poor results expecting to be booed but instead found himself being cheered and loved.
Yep
Veron was a completely different player as well. Di María's style is more suited for the Premier League than Veron IMO. Plus Veron didn't fit in very well socially. He seems a very nice guy so I don't mean it like that.
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With social media every man and his dog can be ITK.
Di Maria was sensational in his first couple of games for us, so at least we know he is capable of putting it on in the BPL.
We just need to find a way for him to do it consistently. Its worth giving him another season on the chance he'll be able to recreate that early season form. Best case scenario - we'd be so lethal it would be unfair, worst case scenario - we sell him next season at a loss.
It would be stupid to sell IMO.
We just need to find a way for him to do it consistently. Its worth giving him another season on the chance he'll be able to recreate that early season form. Best case scenario - we'd be so lethal it would be unfair, worst case scenario - we sell him next season at a loss.
It would be stupid to sell IMO.
SKY SOURCES claim that Di Maria will either go to PSG in a couple of days or it's all BS.
The problem here is because our system requires wingers who are forwards and have the ability to cut in and shoot. Making Di maria in to a winger will revert him back to how benfica used him when in reality he plays better behind such forwards where he overlaps from the centre.
You're just quoting an interview he done with a French media outlet.
Heres what Di Maria said
I wish there was full uncut transcript of the interview because even these seem like choice snippets.
Fellaini has had a run in with Telefoot too for being misquoted about Di Maria (http://www.skysports.com/football/n...ted-midfielder-fellaini-denies-di-maria-tweet). So they have previous/agenda.
Also bear in mind this is the French media, he has to show that he is flattered at the possibility of playing for PSG and in the French League.
More then anything, that interview suggests he wanted to make a point about how "wanted" he was after his treatment at Real.
I agree. And they have a manager in Laurent Blanc who probably can make use of him properly as well. From our point of view, it makes no business sense selling a top player at a loss after only one season though. I am hoping his situation will not end up like in RvP's wherein the rumour is United has not even agreed fee before RvP is already unveiled in a high profile as a Fenerbache player all smiling and thanking the United board.
No, l'equipe and le parisien will generally be considered reliable in the transfer forum unless they report something that the caf doesn't want to hear in which case it's bullshit. That goes for every source in fact, everything is fabricated unless it's something we want to hear.
His family simply didn't settle here, not helped in the least by his house being broken into. I'm not in the least bit surprised he's moving.
I am pretty sure they quoted Goal France as their source.
Actually it goes that anything positive about United is false and unreliable, everything negative should be taken as law.
Yes it was Goal France - who said it would be sorted out within hours ( a day ago) with our assistant manager in a hotel room in Paris with Mendes and PSG rep - must be a nice room if they're still there
everyone else has rehashed the storyThey're also due to make an offer for Lacazette for €50m + €10m bonus according to Goal France
Despite everything I'm still fairly confident he will stay.
Even if he or his family is unhappy, he's not so unhappy that he is publicly demanding to leave.
If Woodward is so determined not to be one-upped by Real Madrid in the De Gea fracas then I don't think he's going to turn around and stomach giving away Di Maria for a loss one season after making him our record purchase.
Even if he or his family is unhappy, he's not so unhappy that he is publicly demanding to leave.
If Woodward is so determined not to be one-upped by Real Madrid in the De Gea fracas then I don't think he's going to turn around and stomach giving away Di Maria for a loss one season after making him our record purchase.
We'd be mad to sell him for a penny less than what we bought him for. If PSG want him then make them break their transfer record for him.
I hope we don't ship him. He just needs time I think. 10m or 60m, world class or not, people do take time to settle in this league. Of course you'd expect a 60m signing to hit the ground running, but it isn't always the case and I don't think we should ship him off one bad season. He showed glimpses that he is capable of being worth 60m and i'd like to see him given the chance to prove as much.
I don't think we should sell him, but many here are falling for the sunk cost fallacy. The price we bought him for is irrelevant when making a decision.
DDG has been our best player for the last 2 years.
Di Maria has been with us for 1 season and spent most of the time injured or on the bench.
In our team (and this is what counts most), DDG is the best GK in the World. No other keeper could do what DDG does.
In our team Di Maria is nothing more than a benchwarmer (in other teams he'd probably be their player of the season).
There is a huge difference between Di Maria and DDG and for the right price, Di Maria will definitely go.
See how he fares with better players around him.
That and following a full year of being in Manchester and gradually settling in more, learning a bit more language/culture etc. Collectively, all signs point to a more productive AdM this coming year.
He was our record signing for a reason. We can't give up after a mixed first season. Really hope he is staying and shows his full potential.
I have a feeling we might sell him to PSG with Cavani coming the other way.
Roll on the 2nd of September
2nd week of August you mean?
I really hope that he stays and we give him full season on the left wing. The lad is absolute class and if he can get his form together then we will have a degestating player who can really make the difference for us. I see no point in selling him now at all. Howevere, having said all that, I do think that he could be off. The rumours are pretty strong and seem to be a bit more than made up click-bait.
No the end of the transfer window
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