Álvaro Morata | Chelsea player

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This thread is so full of overhyping of Real Madrid's squad.

Surely players like DDG, Courtois, Diego Costa, Sanchez, Hazard, Kante, Valencia, Harry Kane, Vertonghen, Walker could somehow sneak into their starting lineup. At the same time their starting players like Assensio/Carvajal, Isco, Keylor Navas, Benzema, Pepe, Varane would struggle to find a starting berth at Spurs. So what?


Erm, no.

Those Real players you mention would literally stroll directly in to the Spurs first team lineup without a hint of a struggle. For the most part.
 
Apart from the fact that nearly all of those wouldn't? This is a side who won the CL two seasons running. There's genuine quality flowing throughout.

I don't believe that winning CL necessarily makes you a better player.

Benzema v Kane
Isco v Alli
Assensio v Walker
Varane v Vertonghen
Navas v Lloris

Even if Real players in those comparisons are better, they aren't comfortably better that they can just walk into that side, which is basically the argument here right? Hazard and Sanchez would walk right into that Real side for example, but there could be an argument that they are 'not clearly better' than their Real counterparts.
 
I don't believe that winning CL necessarily makes you a better player.

Benzema v Kane
Isco v Alli
Assensio v Walker
Varane v Vertonghen
Navas v Lloris

Even if Real players in those comparisons are better, they aren't comfortably better that they can just walk into that side, which is basically the argument here right? Hazard and Sanchez would walk right into that Real side for example, but there could be an argument that they are 'not clearly better' than their Real counterparts.
Not sure it is a good idea comparing Real Madrid with a Spurs side who fail miserably in europe.
 
Except De Gea, I don't think anyone in the entire league will be guaranteed a starting spot at Real.
I'd argue Courtois too, but Navas is at least a capable keeper and that's good enough. I don't see any other outfield player starting unless Real change their structure.
 
Not sure it is a good idea comparing Real Madrid with a Spurs side who fail miserably in europe.
There can be no debate if we just stick with that notion. Let me ask you, in my comparison, player for player, would you choose more Real players or the Spurs players to play for us if money wasn't an issue.

At the end of the day, it's all opinion and I am just stating that I wouldn't think twice before getting Kane, Alli, Walker and Vertonghen at least amongst those players.
 
This thread is so full of overhyping of Real Madrid's squad.

Surely players like DDG, Courtois, Diego Costa, Sanchez, Hazard, Kante, Valencia, Harry Kane, Vertonghen, Walker could somehow sneak into their starting lineup. At the same time their starting players like Assensio/Carvajal, Isco, Keylor Navas, Benzema, Pepe, Varane would struggle to find a starting berth at Spurs. So what?
That's so far from the truth I don't know where to start.
 
There can be no debate if we just stick with that notion. Let me ask you, in my comparison, player for player, would you choose more Real players or the Spurs players to play for us if money wasn't an issue.

At the end of the day, it's all opinion and I am just stating that I wouldn't think twice before getting Kane, Alli, Walker and Vertonghen at least amongst those players.
Kane is Spurs main goalscorer, so really he needs to be compared to Ronaldo. Benzema is more of a provider. Why Varane and not Ramos who is a bit of a headcase but can score goals for fun? It is alright padding your stats in the PL. Real do it both in La Liga and the CL.
 
I don't believe that winning CL necessarily makes you a better player.

Benzema v Kane
Isco v Alli
Assensio v Walker
Varane v Vertonghen
Navas v Lloris

Even if Real players in those comparisons are better, they aren't comfortably better that they can just walk into that side, which is basically the argument here right? Hazard and Sanchez would walk right into that Real side for example, but there could be an argument that they are 'not clearly better' than their Real counterparts.
Who exactly are you going to replace them with? Bale or Isco?
 
There can be no debate if we just stick with that notion. Let me ask you, in my comparison, player for player, would you choose more Real players or the Spurs players to play for us if money wasn't an issue.

At the end of the day, it's all opinion and I am just stating that I wouldn't think twice before getting Kane, Alli, Walker and Vertonghen at least amongst those players.
I would literally choose the entire Real team to replace our team bar De Gea. In comparison to Spurs, I would probably choose three players MAX.
 
There can be no debate if we just stick with that notion. Let me ask you, in my comparison, player for player, would you choose more Real players or the Spurs players to play for us if money wasn't an issue.

At the end of the day, it's all opinion and I am just stating that I wouldn't think twice before getting Kane, Alli, Walker and Vertonghen at least amongst those players.
You can just about make an argument for Kane. But the rest of them? You're having a laugh.
 
You can just about make an argument for Kane. But the rest of them? You're having a laugh.

Even Kane is a massive stretch. Place on the bench at the most.

There isn't a player on earth who could displace Ronaldo from that Real team.
 
@DomesticTadpole @Cal? @RDCR07

You guys aren't incorrect in anything you're saying. But I was debunking the "he wouldn't get into their team" argument.

I am not trying to do a player v player comparison to show which team is better, which of course is Real Madrid without a shadow of a doubt. I am saying that those Spurs players are, in my opinion, superior than those specific Real Madrid players who are considered their starting players.
 
@DomesticTadpole @Cal? @RDCR07

You guys aren't incorrect in anything you're saying. But I was debunking the "he wouldn't get into their team" argument.

I am not trying to do a player v player comparison to show which team is better, which of course is Real Madrid without a shadow of a doubt. I am saying that those Spurs players are, in my opinion, superior than those specific Real Madrid players who are considered their starting players.
Varane and Carvajal are better than Vertonghen and Walker.
 
Even Kane is a massive stretch. Place on the bench at the most.

There isn't a player on earth who could displace Ronaldo from that Real team.
Obviously, I meant an argument can be made to replace Benzema with Kane.
 
@DomesticTadpole @Cal? @RDCR07

You guys aren't incorrect in anything you're saying. But I was debunking the "he wouldn't get into their team" argument.

I am not trying to do a player v player comparison to show which team is better, which of course is Real Madrid without a shadow of a doubt. I am saying that those Spurs players are, in my opinion, superior than those specific Real Madrid players who are considered their starting players.

Benzema v Kane
Isco v Alli
Assensio v Walker
Varane v Vertonghen

Navas v Lloris

Like I said, an argument could be make re Benzema v Kane, but the bolded ones, just no. Navas is probably around the same level as Lloris.

Also why are you comapring Assensio to Walke? :confused:
 
The tweets ive seen are saying Mediaset Premium, though ive seen nothing from them directly.

 
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Benzema v Kane
Isco v Alli
Assensio v Walker
Varane v Vertonghen

Navas v Lloris

Like I said, an argument could be make re Benzema v Kane, but the bolded ones, just no. Navas is probably around the same level as Lloris.

Also why are you comapring Assensio to Walke? :confused:

I don't want to derail this thread too much, but people would really prefer Isco to 4 years younger Delli Alli who just had a season where he scored 18 goals and had 7 assists in the league alone? Well, like I said, each to their own really.
 
I don't believe that winning CL necessarily makes you a better player.

Benzema v Kane
Isco v Alli
Assensio v Walker
Varane v Vertonghen
Navas v Lloris

Even if Real players in those comparisons are better, they aren't comfortably better that they can just walk into that side, which is basically the argument here right? Hazard and Sanchez would walk right into that Real side for example, but there could be an argument that they are 'not clearly better' than their Real counterparts.

Why are you comparing an attacking midfielder to a rightback?

and yes I'd take Isco over Alli. Benzema suits their style. Lloris is becoming error prone.
 
I don't want to derail this thread too much, but people would really prefer Isco to 4 years younger Delli Alli who just had a season where he scored 18 goals and had 7 assists in the league alone? Well, like I said, each to their own really.
Agreed that we shouldn't derail this any further, but I personally think Isco is one of the best players in the world, Delli Alli is nowhere near that level.
 
Kane, Alli and Eriksen.
I'd say no to all three to be honest. Kane maybe in certain matches or moments, but he would face the same problem as Morata since Benzema starts due to his profile. I don't see who Alli would start over if someone like James couldn't make the bench in the CL final. Maybe Eriksen over Isco (who himself would arguably be benched if Bale is 100% fit) due to longevity/consistency but I'd say Isco's qualities are more needed because Kroos can offer Eriksen's best qualities.
 
I don't want to derail this thread too much, but people would really prefer Isco to 4 years younger Delli Alli who just had a season where he scored 18 goals and had 7 assists in the league alone? Well, like I said, each to their own really.

No football club in their right mind would start Dele Alli over a fit and raring to go Isco. Not in a month of sundays.

I'd take Morata of Alli, even though they play different positions.
 
I'd say no to all three to be honest. Kane maybe in certain matches or moments, but he would face the same problem as Morata since Benzema starts due to his profile. I don't see who Alli would start over if someone like James couldn't make the bench in the CL final. Maybe Eriksen over Isco (who himself would arguably be benched if Bale is 100% fit) due to longevity/consistency but I'd say Isco's qualities are more needed because Kroos can offer Eriksen's best qualities.
I was talking about Spurs players replacing United players not Real players.
 
This thread is so full of overhyping of Real Madrid's squad.

Surely players like DDG, Courtois, Diego Costa, Sanchez, Hazard, Kante, Valencia, Harry Kane, Vertonghen, Walker could somehow sneak into their starting lineup. At the same time their starting players like Assensio/Carvajal, Isco, Keylor Navas, Benzema, Pepe, Varane would struggle to find a starting berth at Spurs. So what?
Pains me how hard peopleoverrate spurs based off finishing second...

If you honestly think in form asensio, Isco, Varane, Carvajal and maybe even Pepe wouldn't walk into that lineup then I don't know what to say. Benzema may even walk into it tbh with them adjusting formation.
 
Why are you comparing an attacking midfielder to a rightback?

and yes I'd take Isco over Alli. Benzema suits their style. Lloris is becoming error prone.
:lol:

Because I clearly confused him with their second right back, is that Danilo? I take that comparison back.
 
Fingers crossed on this one, the only player we are linked to right now I actually want to see in a United shirt and will be crucial to getting in the top 4.
 
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