Álvaro Morata | Chelsea player

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This transfer is beginning to whiff of the usual summer bullshit transfer saga that we seem to get embroiled in every summer e.g. Gaitan, Vidal etc. The club have said nothing about it, the player hasn't mentioned us directly as far as I can recall. Utter nonsense all of it.
That's normal for transfers, least it has been during my lifetime anyway. The club won't say anything about a transfer until it's done and dusted.
 
We buy their local lad who they deem surplus to requirements.

They take that money and buy the most exciting talent in Europe.

Sounds about right.
 
We buy their local lad who they deem surplus to requirements.

They take that money and buy the most exciting talent in Europe.

Sounds about right.

They will pay a world-record fee for him, almost double this amount. True, they will get the money from him and James for that deal but that's because they have great players even on the bench.

And still, paying that kinda a money for an 18-year old kid is also a gamble.
 
We buy their local lad who they deem surplus to requirements.

They take that money and buy the most exciting talent in Europe.

Sounds about right.

Who is in his own right a super centre forward and will suit our team perfectly for about half the price. We can't have em all. Sure it would be a shame to miss out on Mbappe but he could end up having a stinker at Real and being flogged 2 years down the line. Likewise the same could happen with Morata but at least we didn't spend 130 million.
 
We buy their local lad who they deem surplus to requirements.

They take that money and buy the most exciting talent in Europe.

Sounds about right.

Maybe Mbappe prefers Madrid to us, so won't even entertain our offer.

Perfectly plausible. At this current stage, incredibly likely.

We have to stop using the "why are we choosing Morata over Mbappe?!!!?!". A vast majority of players right now would pick Madrid over us right now.
 
We buy their local lad who they deem surplus to requirements.

They take that money and buy the most exciting talent in Europe.

Sounds about right.

Even if we don't buy morata they will still probably sign mbappe. More so i doubt mbappe even wants to sign for us, he's obviously a real madrid fan and they are the biggest club at the moment. We only compete with them financially, on the pitch they are miles ahead of us.
 
Maybe Mbappe prefers Madrid to us, so won't even entertain our offer.

Perfectly plausible. At this current stage, incredibly likely.

We have to stop using the "why are we choosing Morata over Mbappe?!!!?!". A vast majority of players right now would pick Madrid over us right now.

How you dare to make absolute sense in the transfer forum
 
This transfer is beginning to whiff of the usual summer bullshit transfer saga that we seem to get embroiled in every summer e.g. Gaitan, Vidal etc. The club have said nothing about it, the player hasn't mentioned us directly as far as I can recall. Utter nonsense all of it.

There was nothing on Vidal other than some crappy Chilean sources
We buy their local lad who they deem surplus to requirements.

They take that money and buy the most exciting talent in Europe.

Sounds about right.

We buy the plater that is possible for us to recruit with his desire to come, what with being offloaded

they buy the player that is possible for them to recruit with the player's desire being the deciding factor

players have a say in their destination too
 
We buy their local lad who they deem surplus to requirements.

They take that money and buy the most exciting talent in Europe.

Sounds about right.
That exciting young talent will cost double what we're paying for their local lad (who by the way, they would much prefer to keep). Not to mention one player wants to come to us while the other doesn't.
 
We buy their local lad who they deem surplus to requirements.

They take that money and buy the most exciting talent in Europe.

Sounds about right.

Only players who would prefer us to Madrid is United fans and players who want to increase their global image. Considering Mbappe is only 18 and obviously prefers Madrid, I'd say he doesn't fall into either of those categories.

Even when we were the best team in the world Madrid managed to take our best player from us, regardless of the circumstances.

With the history and prestige associated with Madrid, not to add the beautiful weather etc. it's no surprise players prefer Madrid to us. I also don't see that changing anytime soon, maybe ever.

What we need to focus on is getting a functional team together, not blowing our load on more players who we have to force into the team.
 
i think this has the potential to be a really great transfer for us and yet another good signing by Jose. He's surely scouted him to death and having worked with him will already know more about him than most. if this manager wants him for that amount of money then it's for a very good reason. If he follows the trend of the rest of Joses transfers he'll do a good job next season and become an important player for us. Who knows how good he could become in the PL. It'll be very interesting to see!
 
The original 'clutch' word was from cloke/claw of an animal and meant a tight grip e.g. in the clutches of an eagle. This was also the origin of the automotive use, from how the engine/transmission is gripped and reflects in such usage like the 'clutches of death'. Essentially it was used to describe gripping something tightly

The usage in regards to high pressured moment, seems to come from the notion that in such moments people are said to feel a 'tightening in the chest' as if their heart is being gripped/clutched, i.e. high pressure moments = clutch moments. It was most likely popularized by american sports with baseball being the culprit.

A clutch player/person can then be said to be someone delivers in clutch moments i.e. he performs well under high pressure. This is usually a desired characteristics for star players as you want you best players to perform at their best when it is needed most

A little used reference would be an opera singing 'clutching' his testicle in order to hit the high notes.
 
I'm sure he'd prefer to stay at Real Madrid. I'm sure that with Benzema near 30 they would like to keep Morata. How are we so sure we're not getting strung along?
 
Why get hung up on how much we pay? It's not like we are a broke club overspending. Let Woody flex his muscles.

We want their second best goalscorer who happens to be a very talented dynamic player who is only 24. Ask yourself how much would some team have to pay us to get Rashford? And Morata is twice the player Rashford is.

If Real wants to take that money and risk it on a overpriced one season wonder why stop them? We already have Martial and Rashford.
 
I'm sure he'd prefer to stay at Real Madrid. I'm sure that with Benzema near 30 they would like to keep Morata. How are we so sure we're not getting strung along?

if any of the recent reporting is accurate, Zidane has told him that benzema will remain ahead of him in the team and that he's looking for the move so he can cement a spot in the national team.

Also his agent has confirmed offers from Milan and MUFC but already said the milan one has been rejected with no follow up.

If the reporting is accurate, he's very open to move.
 
We buy their local lad who they deem surplus to requirements.

They take that money and buy the most exciting talent in Europe.

Sounds about right.
It's not exactly like grocery shopping where the goods don't have a choice and the buyers do. Players have preferences too and you can only get a deal done when all parties agree.

When it comes to Mbappe (and he's a massive risk - much bigger risk than Morata), it's obvious to everyone and his dog that he would opt for Real. And why not? 3 CLs in 4 seasons, Madrid weather, Zidane etc. It should be obvious we're doing the right thing.

As for not funding their purchases, well, then we shouldn't ever buy any player because any purchase funds the selling club! This is the very definition of cutting the nose to spite the face.
 
It's not exactly like grocery shopping where the goods don't have a choice and the buyers do. Players have preferences too and you can only get a deal done when all parties agree.

When it comes to Mbappe (and he's a massive risk - much bigger risk than Morata), it's obvious to everyone and his dog that he would opt for Real. And why not? 3 CLs in 4 seasons, Madrid weather, Zidane etc. It should be obvious we're doing the right thing.

As for not funding their purchases, well, then we shouldn't ever buy any player because any purchase funds the selling club! This is the very definition of cutting the nose to spite the face.

We have the money we are cash rich we should hopefully test Monaco's resolve first. If Mbappe knocks us back (doubt it as we can more than match or better than most) then fair enough. Morata is quality but Mbappe just looks off the chart. But if Mbappe says no then delighted with Morata.
 
We have the money we are cash rich we should hopefully test Monaco's resolve first. If Mbappe knocks us back (doubt it as we can more than match or better than most) then fair enough. Morata is quality but Mbappe just looks off the chart. But if Mbappe says no then delighted with Morata.
Di Marzio reported that Mourinho was bewithced by M'bappe and he was our number 1 priority about a month back. It then came out that M'bappe wouldn't come here because he hates Mourinhos playstyle. So going off what Uniteds most reliable Journo said, we already tried and got told to kindly feck off by M'bappe himself.
 
Di Marzio reported that Mourinho was bewithced by M'bappe and he was our number 1 priority about a month back. It then came out that M'bappe wouldn't come here because he hates Mourinhos playstyle. So going off what Uniteds most reliable Journo said, we already tried and got told to kindly feck off by M'bappe himself.
Talk about the ultimate burn :lol:
 
Di Marzio reported that Mourinho was bewithced by M'bappe and he was our number 1 priority about a month back. It then came out that M'bappe wouldn't come here because he hates Mourinhos playstyle. So going off what Uniteds most reliable Journo said, we already tried and got told to kindly feck off by M'bappe himself.
Link to that report? And who would be leaking this to Di Marzi? I don't think anyone from either camp would be doing this.
 
Link to that report? And who would be leaking this to Di Marzi? I don't think anyone from either camp would be doing this.
Di Marzio:
http://gianlucadimarzio.com/it/tutti-pazzi-per-mbappe-e-mourinho-stregato-lo-osserva

Cafs rxn:
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/kylian-mbappé.427549/page-17#post-20651240

L'Equipe on M'bappe not being keen for Moureen:
http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2017/kylian-mbappe-not-interested-in-manchester-united/


Don't know who would leak it but it's clear Di Marzio has connections within the club, unless we're only believing him when it's good news now.
 
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Di Marzio:
http://gianlucadimarzio.com/it/tutti-pazzi-per-mbappe-e-mourinho-stregato-lo-osserva

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/kylian-mbappé.427549/page-17#post-20651240

L'Equipe on M'bappe not being keen for Moureen:
http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2017/kylian-mbappe-not-interested-in-manchester-united/


Don't know who would leak it but it's clear Di Marzio has connections within the club, unless we're only believing him when it's good news now.
You think the club will say that we were told to do one by a teenager from France? You really need to see how the club actually spins stories when they cannot land a target to understand how ridiculous that sounds.
 
You think the club will say that we were told to do one by a teenager from France? You really need to see how the club actually spins stories when they cannot land a target to understand how ridiculous that sounds.
The club didn't say shit about being rejected, don't know where your pulling that from?. Di Marzio only reported our interest, the L'equipe article came a few weeks later. Both tier 1 sources. As i said you should try believing the most reliable Journos, not only those with good news.
 
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The club didn't say shit about being rejected, don't know where your pulling that from?. Di Marzio only reported our interest, the L'equipe article came a few weeks later. Both tier 1 sources. You should try believing the most reliable Journos, not only those with good news.
Aah. I thought that your post above was about Di Marzio saying we were rejected by M'bappe. Makes sense what you say although L'equipe also have made their fair share of crap stories.

Anyway, I doubt a young player will say "No thanks" to one of the best managers around. That honestly makes little sense unless he intends to stay at his club or his heart is already set somewhere else.
 
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No way that happens imo. If you told me last year we'd pay £130m for Morata and Perisic I'd say you were mental.
 
Aah. I thought that your post above was about Di Marzio saying we were rejected by M'bappe. Makes sense what you say although L'equipe also have made their fair share of crap stories.

Anyway, I doubt a young player will say "No thanks" to one of the best managers around. That honestly makes little sense unless he intends to stay at his club or his heart is already set somewhere else.
Why not? He's so hyped up right now he can pick pretty much anyone he wants, snubbing one manager isn't going to limit his options much. And for all we know he wants to stay at Monaco, from the interviews he's given he sounds like a pretty switched on guy who's being careful with his career.

Anyway forget about Mbappe, he's an overhyped kid who will fizzle out in a year or so :wenger: Morata is the man.
 
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