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Tottenham Hotspur 1:0 Manchester United

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Sun, 16 February 2025 @ 4:30pm GMT
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    Every manager need their players....
    the board refuse to strengthen the team in the winter window..and our best players this season are fecked up due to injury..
    What is your hope after that??

    Our captain cannot pass a simple 5 yards ball
    our winger cannot shoot on target in 10 yards area..
    When you have such player in the first team..
    What is your hope after that??
    Agree with all of that but it doesn't excuse having a stupid setup.

    Spurs are exactly the same. Hide behind the board, injuries etc but the manager just plays really dumb football.
     
    I don't mind the Garnacho miss purely because he's in position to make things happen and is trying hard.

    Bruno and Casemiro have been awful and at the centre of every half promising g attack breaking down.
    I am inclined to agree with this. At least Garnacho gets himself in the position to miss big chances, which is more than I can say for the rest of our squad.
     
    Dunno if it’s the system or our players, probably the latter, but I thought this system would be super fluid. It just seems to be going out wide constantly then nothing. I thought there would be a lot of movement between the 10s the 9 and the wingbacks.
    Mix of bad players and inexperience with the system, I would say. Also, we've not had a good midfield for ages to really bind the play together. The reason we are so disjointed starts there.
     
    So he shouldn't point out obvious set up flaws if he doesn't have an instant fix?

    Still think Utd can win this, Spurs are even more fragile than Utd.
    He's non-stop criticising one of the two teams, when the other team has conceded even more clear-cut chances. There are clear issues with the fromation but we also have 10 players out! The last time we had zirkzee trying to cover the right he had to be subbed at the 30th min. We are obviously compensating for this.

    I hardly think we've been worse than them, yet gary uses words like embarrassing to describe us and waxes lyricals when its anything to do spurs (especially maddison!)
     
    Ffs hahahah can only laugh at this point, Hojlund wrestling defenders achieving nothing, Zirkzee doing sn amazing job winning and keeping the ball just to pass it to Bruno who could control a simple pass and lost it.

    Shittiest squad we ever had.
    Yeah not seen Hojlund win any duel yet, I’m having a hard time holding out hope for him. He’s just getting worse and worse.
     
    I've never bought this narrative that Bruno is a shining diamond in a sea of shit.

    He's fecking awful most of the time.

    Pogba was much better over his time here bar when Bruno first came in

    Pogba would improve this squad a lot tbh. I know we'll never get him back and people don't want him but it's the truth
     
    De Ligt and Dorgu have been good. Zirkzee has done well to hold up the ball at times.

    I don't know what formation we're playing. Amorim needs to right the midfield at HT. Spurs are a shambles at the back and if we had any ounce of street smart and organisation out there we'd get a result here.

    As it is, it looks like a random collection of players playing a system they don't know, trying to fill spaces they aren't sure about, and no passing angles whatsoever. So frustrating.
     
    Dorgu providing an overload 90% of the time and players like Garnacho just turn inside and don't return the ball.

    Why play a wingback if you don't use the option?
    I've always felt the most basic and reliable method to creating chances in football is to work a narrow wide position and have someone overlap, and they either play it across the face of goal or cut it back.

    We don't seem to have discovered that.
     
    Said it before but so many of our games are practically golden goal and we have a keeper that turns half chances into tap ins and an attack that can’t finish.

    Spurs created nothing and we’re somehow losing
     
    crying out for 4-4-2... i know amorim won't change but with the players we've got fit he either has to or forget being our manager. so far, I'm as unimpressed by him as I am by the players and the brexiter clown in charge
     
    Zirkzee a positive

    Been good when on the ball, touch has been sweet, played his way out of tight areas a few times. Not seeing enough of him and Hojlund has been quiet after a decent start.

    Utd have done pretty well defensively to restrict Spurs to fewer shots despite them having far more of the ball.

    Bruno wakes up and Garnacho/Hojlund are going to get another 1 v 1, Spurs are leaving ridiculous space.
     
    Dorgu, Zirkzee and Höjlund have done ok, the rest have been terrible. Special mentions for Casemiro and Bruno, that was up there with the worst midfield performance I have ever seen.

    This is our standard now. Average performances get applauded. I am not blaming you, you said they did “ok”, but this is reality, we notice and appreciate “ok”…
     
    Every manager need their players....
    the board refuse to strengthen the team in the winter window..and our best players this season are fecked up due to injury..
    Im not sure you realise the absolute financial mess the clubs in. Im surprised we even signed Dorgu and Heaven in the winter window.
    We have to sell too buy but all we do is loan.
     
    At the game. We’re so slow and laboured in our play. It’s really frustrating. Dorgu looks good but is sitting too deep. Garnacho missing those two chances as well. One of which went over the bar. Terrible. We need to change something in the 2nd half. Take Casemiro off because he will get sent off and take Hojlund off for Chido Obi.
     
    Garnacho passes back instead of giving it back to Dorgu

    Of course he does. People didn't get the memo. They forgot to check his FB Ref stats.

    Garnacho does not do forward passes. It's that damn clear. Just straight up refuses to even look for it. I don't care how many mazy-ass runs he goes on; if you can't get your general passing game going you ain't having a long-term future at a club that wants to win something other than domestic cups.
     
    Dorgu is going to get Utd-ed.

    Offering himself for the pass, making overlaps and like clockwork getting ignored for everything.
    Yea. It must be disheartening when you constantly make the effort to support the attack and get ignored. Not sure why the passes don’t come. Are our players that bad they can’t see it ?

    Very very frustrating team. They look lot out there.
     
    We look worse after "training".

    The gap in MF is ridiculous because Bruno is undisciplined
     
    Yeah what is he thinking, he should be playing our better midfielders. Oh wait.
    I've no issue with his team selection or even that we're losing. The formation is the issue. Anybody defending the tactical shape today needs to wake up and see what's infront of them.
     
    Well Roy, Maddison stepped up for you today. We’ll done for the gee-up.

    Never seen Bruno this bad and Cas also needs to come off esp on a yellow card

    Had a throw in in their half.. straight back to Onana 70yds away, who hoofs if straight back to Spurs defence. What is the fecking point?
     
    Think it's time to call a spade a spade and say that ETH just built a team full of shite.

    No manager is doing anything with this team. Needs 7-8 starts in minimum to even be looking at top 4.
     
    If Zirkzee gets used to the pace of the PL, potentially a very very good player there. But more suited to a 10 role it appears, his lack of pace doesn’t suit him to be the man leading the line.
     
    Mix of bad players and inexperience with the system, I would say. Also, we've not had a good midfield for ages to really bind the play together. The reason we are so disjointed starts there.
    Yeah. Just need a few windows unfortunately.

    I really am looking forward to when/if the system clicks, because I really like the idea of it.
     
    Neville shouldn't be allowed to commentate on our games, he's interminable.

    Yes, were stretched in midfield, we have 11 fit senior outfield players and ony one CM, who happens to have the mobility of a rusting Soviet combine harvester.

    We have had the best chance of the game by far - if you're not finishing chances like that then rest is redundant
     
    Bruno is playing for the opposition today. He ruins every transition.

    Garnacho doesn’t defend and can’t score. What is the point of him?

    Zirkzee’s technical ability is world class - the only good thing I saw.

    Bruno wants Tottenham to win. Absolutely disgusting performance from him.

    Garnacho just a very poor finisher. At least he get to chances.

    Zirkzee is very talented. Can see him become one of our best.
     
    Pogba was much better over his time here bar when Bruno first came in

    Pogba would improve this squad a lot tbh. I know we'll never get him back and people don't want him but it's the truth
    Bruno is incredibly frustrating at times, but he's head and shoulders above Pogba in a red shirt.
     
    I think you two completely misunderstood my post. I have no problem with Bruno playing as a centre midfielder. The problem I have is the way he is being asked to play which is what I said in my initial post.

    I'd be interested to know why Amorim has opted for Bruno being thebperson pressing the left back, as opposed to sitting in the pivot with Casemiro.
    Is he being asked to play that way? I’d bet good money those aren’t his specific instructions and he’s adapting/reacting to how the game is playing out and how Spurs are shaping up and overloading.
     
    Another goal because Onono can't hold onto the ball properly.

    Really bad miss by Garnacho.
    No keeper is holding that shot. As a keeper, you hope your defenders react rather than ball watch.....
     
    Casemiro stood on his own in the middle with Bruno going stray. It's tactical and it's mental.

    Like him or not but Neville is spot on.
    Maz is supposed to step into midfield. We've been stood in a 4231 out of possession many times today with Bruno pushed out wide to press
     
    That week of training sessions really paying off props to the lads
    Also good job in the owners for not even getting a few loans in for our forward positions. Really good planning
     
    And we moaned about McFred. That midfield is worse....
    Probably our best midified pairing in the last 8 seasons.

    Our ability to let a mediocre player go and become worse after spending shit load of money is unprecedented in professional team sports.
     
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Score Predictions

53,102,22
  • Man Utd win
  • Tottenham win
  • Draw

Detailed Results

  • 16% Tottenham 1:2 Man Utd
  • 13% Tottenham 2:0 Man Utd
  • 12% Tottenham 3:0 Man Utd
  • 11% Tottenham 2:1 Man Utd
  • 10% Tottenham 3:1 Man Utd
  • 6% Tottenham 2:2 Man Utd
  • 5% Tottenham 1:1 Man Utd
  • 4% Tottenham 0:1 Man Utd
  • 4% Tottenham 4:0 Man Utd
  • 3% Tottenham 1:3 Man Utd
  • 3% Tottenham 4:1 Man Utd
  • 3% Tottenham 0:2 Man Utd
  • 2% Tottenham 2:3 Man Utd
  • 1% Tottenham 5:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Tottenham 3:2 Man Utd
  • 1% Tottenham 0:9 Man Utd
  • 1% Tottenham 4:2 Man Utd
  • 1% Tottenham 0:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Tottenham 5:1 Man Utd
  • 1% Tottenham 3:3 Man Utd
  • 1% Tottenham 7:1 Man Utd
  • 1% Tottenham 3:6 Man Utd
  • 1% Tottenham 1:0 Man Utd
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Match Stats

  1. Tottenham
  2. Man Utd
Overall possession
56.5% 43.5%
Shots
22 16
Shots on target
7 6
Total touches in the box
45 32
Goalkeeper saves
6 6
Fouls
13 9
Corners
10 5

Referee

Peter Bankes