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    A little hard on Lingard??

    You are basically handicapping us from the off, not playing him is hurting us far more than it will be hurting Spurs.

    He has to be with De Gea, one of the first names on the teamsheet these days, he is bang in form, no way should anyone not have him starting.

    If was out of form, then yes I could understand not playing him, but that is just no way near the case here.

    We can't play with a midfield 2
    So who do you send to the bench?
     
    I think we line up in this similar to how we played against Everton

    solid defence, strong midfield and nippy attack

    --------------------------DDG-----------------------
    Valencia----Smalling-Jones------Shaw
    ------------------------Matic-----------------------'
    ---------------Lingard---------Pogba----------
    Sanchez---------Lukaku-------------martial

    I think Herrera could maybe do a job in place of Lingard
     
    I hope we make a big statement in this game by playing spurs off the pitch. I know we can do it but its all down to mentality and personnel. Im going for 2-0 win which would be a great result away from home.
     
    Why can't we play with a midfield two? Who says so?

    Last time I checked it was well within the rules to do so.

    Because our midfield get overun everytime we play on a midfield 2 and it restricts Pogba's forward plays because he always needs to be there for his defensive duties, which will be far more difficult againts a team with the quality of spurs.
    With all due respect to Lingard, and I respect him and was all for him even when a lot hear hated him, he will always be a rotational player, he is a good player but not world class. And wheb we buy a world class midfielder to replace Herrera and Fellaini, who do you think will go to the bench? Matic? Pogba? Martial? Sanchez? Those are all world class players that we need out there, longard is a great rotational player and force of the bench.
     
    Why not just play, Sanchez, Martial, Lingard, Pogba and Lukaku?
    That would be mouthwateringly good!

    I think Herrera will start and will be given instruction to man mark Eriksen.
     
    --------------------DDG-----------------------
    Valencia-----Smalling--Jones----------Shaw
    --------Matic-----------------Pogba---------
    --------------- Lingard-----------------------
    Alexis---------Lukaku-------------Martial


    Really hope to see Shaw and not Young.

    Just noticed that Spurs play us, Liverpool and then Arsenal in 10 days time :lol:
     
    Because our midfield get overun everytime we play on a midfield 2 and it restricts Pogba's forward plays because he always needs to be there for his defensive duties, which will be far more difficult againts a team with the quality of spurs.
    With all due respect to Lingard, and I respect him and was all for him even when a lot hear hated him, he will always be a rotational player, he is a good player but not world class. And wheb we buy a world class midfielder to replace Herrera and Fellaini, who do you think will go to the bench? Matic? Pogba? Martial? Sanchez? Those are all world class players that we need out there, longard is a great rotational player and force of the bench.

    Why will he always be a rotational player? Does his form really warrant people still thinking along these lines?

    What more could he do to be thought of as a key player?
     
    Why will he always be a rotational player? Does his form really warrant people still thinking along these lines?

    What more could he do to be thought of as a key player?

    Prove himself over a course of a few seasons. Like Lukaku proved himself, like Sanchez proved himself, like Pogba did. It's a first for Lingard to be on such a run. Let's see how consistent he will be.
     
    Prove himself over a course of a few seasons. Like Lukaku proved himself, like Sanchez proved himself, like Pogba did. It's a first for Lingard to be on such a run. Let's see how consistent he will be.

    So far he has been very consistent, he simply does not deserve to not be starting games, especially high profile ones.

    He has shown that he is more than good enough to be in our best starting eleven.
     
    So far he has been very consistent, he simply does not deserve to not be starting games, especially high profile ones.

    He has shown that he is more than good enough to be in our best starting eleven.

    He has been consistnet over the past 2-3 month or so. There were times that he was bad on the pitch(although providing the occasional magic moment), he has talent, I just don't think hes a starter in a team that aspires to be the best in the world.
     
    ------------------------DDG--------------------
    Valencia-----Smalling------Jones-------Young
    -----------------------Matic--------------------
    -------------Herrera---------Pogba------------
    Sanchez-----------Lukaku-------------martial

    Really hope it's a 4-3-3 for this game. Arguably Lingard in for Herrera/Sanchez.
     
    He has been consistnet over the past 2-3 month or so. There were times that he was bad on the pitch(although providing the occasional magic moment), he has talent, I just don't think hes a starter in a team that aspires to be the best in the world.

    He is very much a starter, what could he do to convince you or some others otherwise?
    He scores goals, and has a terrific work rate which José loves in his players, he is basically the prototype player for José, so I can't see José dropping him at the moment.
     
    He is very much a starter, what could he do to convince you or some others otherwise?
    He scores goals, and has a terrific work rate which José loves in his players, he is basically the prototype player for José, so I can't see José dropping him at the moment.

    He is a starter now. How does he measure up againts the world best 10's? On the long run, not on a good 2 month. He is a good player.
    Will he get us to where we wanna be? I highly doubt that.
     
    He is a starter now. How does he measure up againts the world best 10's? On the long run, not on a good 2 month. He is a good player.
    Will he get us to where we wanna be? I highly doubt that.

    I have no reason to doubt that he could take us to more trophies, he seems to do better in the bigger games, see his performances in cup finals for example.
     
    I think Jose’s more likely to drop Martial than Lingard for this one. He’ll play Jesse for his energy.

    —-— Matic —-
    Herrera- Pogba
    Lingard—- Sanchez
    —— Lukaku —-
     
    De Gea, Jones, Smalling, Valencia, Matic, Pogba, Sanchez and Lukaku are all 100% starters. The only question marks are do we go with 3 in midfield with Herrera and sacrifice one of Lingard or Martial or do we play them both and go with a 4-2-3-1 formation and Herrera stays on the bench? Young will probably also play although I'd prefer Shaw instead.
     
    De Gea, Jones, Smalling, Valencia, Matic, Pogba, Sanchez and Lukaku are all 100% starters. The only question marks are do we go with 3 in midfield with Herrera and sacrifice one of Lingard or Martial or do we play them both and go with a 4-2-3-1 formation and Herrera stays on the bench? Young will probably also play although I'd prefer Shaw instead.

    Why is Lingard not considered a 100% starter like those other players that you mention? What more would he have to do to become one at this moment?

    Currently he should be viewed as Inthe same category as those players above.
     
    Why is Lingard not considered a 100% starter like those other players that you mention? What more would he have to do to become one at this moment?

    Currently he should be viewed as Inthe same category as those players above.
    Probably because he's competing with Martial for that last attacking place in a 433 (assuming Herrera starts). With Martial being rested last game, it's pretty likely he'll be the one starting.
     
    Probably because he's competing with Martial for that last attacking place in a 433 (assuming Herrera starts). With Martial being rested last game, it's pretty likely he'll be the one starting.

    Lingard was rested rested as well, he was on the bench, and only really came on as a small cameo, it is just that he is so good currently, that he is also scored!

    So I think José resting him or putting him on the bench says quite how much he values him.
     
    Why is Lingard not considered a 100% starter like those other players that you mention? What more would he have to do to become one at this moment?

    Currently he should be viewed as Inthe same category as those players above.
    I've already said in a previous post Lingard deserves to start considering his great form and his Wembley record. This is the decision I think Jose will have to make (choosing between Lingard and Martial) and it's not an easy one because both of them deserve to play but only one can start. The above players are 100% starters for this game in particular that's what I meant.
     
    DDG
    Valencia Smalling Jones Young/Shaw
    Matic
    Fellaini Pogba
    Sanchez Lukaku Martial

    I feel we are better served with a third central midfielder in this match and currently I prefer fellaini to Herrera. We can become more attacking if we are chasing by replacing fellaini with lingard and change to 4231.

    Also maybe Jose will prefer to not start with Sanchez and sub him on instead.
     
    I've already said in a previous post Lingard deserves to start considering his great form and his Wembley record. This is the decision I think Jose will have to make (choosing between Lingard and Martial) and it's not an easy one because both of them deserve to play but only one can start. The above players are 100% starters for this game in particular that's what I meant.

    I would say start both Lingard and Martial, they both have earned the right to start in important games.
     
    DDG
    Valencia Smalling Jones Young/Shaw
    Matic
    Fellaini Pogba
    Sanchez Lukaku Martial

    I feel we are better served with a third central midfielder in this match and currently I prefer fellaini to Herrera. We can become more attacking if we are chasing by replacing fellaini with lingard and change to 4231.

    Why not start with a positive frame of mind with Lingard, why wait until we are behind to play him? That doesn't really make too much sense.
     
    Why not start with a positive frame of mind with Lingard, why wait until we are behind to play him? That doesn't really make too much sense.

    I feel the line up is positive enough. We don't need to play all our good attackers from the off to win the match. He'll be a good option to bring on against tired legs whether we are chasing or not.
     
    I feel the line up is positive enough. We don't need to play all our good attackers from the off to win the match.

    Even with both of them in the starting lineup, we are not playing all of our good attackers, as we would be not starting Rashford nor Mata nor Ibra.
     
    Lingard was rested rested as well, he was on the bench, and only really came on as a small cameo, it is just that he is so good currently, that he is also scored!

    So I think José resting him or putting him on the bench says quite how much he values him.
    Yeah, of course, but why would Martial not take part yesterday if he wasn't starting?
     
    Even with both of them in the starting lineup, we are not playing all of our good attackers, as we would be not starting Rashford nor Mata nor Ibra.

    Like I said I prefer 3 central midfielders in this particular match. So keeping our back 4 the most we can fit is 3 attackers. I picked my 3. My opinion mate you don't have to agree with it.
     
    Yeah, of course, but why would Martial not take part yesterday if he wasn't starting?

    The same could be said about Lingard, why start him on the bench, and just give him a small cameo if he was not going to start him against Spurs?
     
    Meh ... what does a one-off game in the EL prove?

    Besides, playing alongside Alderweireld and Vertonghen is a different kettle of fish, not to mention the benefit of coaching by Poch.

    Assuming that Alderweireld is match-fit, I'd say 3 at the back for Spurs is more likely than not.
    Sure, but Poch did indeed left him out in our home game, dropping Dier from midfield to play as centerback.
     
    Like I said I prefer 3 central midfielders in this particular match. So keeping our back 4 the most we can fit is 3 attackers. I picked my 3. My opinion mate you don't have to agree with it.

    Fair point, I am not trying to be antagonistic here, far from it, sorry of there was any confusion.
     
    Okay, feck this 3 midfield bs, i've changed my mind. Just tell Pogba to stay a bit more disciplined.

    Lukaku
    Martial JLingz Alexiiis
    Pogba Matic
    Young Phil Mike Anton
    DDG

    :devil:

     
    it is purely tactical if either Martial or Lingaard gets dropped to the bench. I feel that we need a third midfield player in this game and it should be Herrera. That will make the midfield a bit more solid and let Pogba play a bit more freely. Spurs have a very good midfield and we need to stop them playing and hence isolate Kane up front.
     
    Not quite sure how anyone can do a lineup without Lingard.

    In great scoring form, 12 goals this season, rested yesterday, started a similar big game at Arsenal and was excellent.
    No way he's not starting.

    Certainly not going to be left out for Herrera who hasn't had a good 6months
     
    Sure, but Poch did indeed left him out in our home game, dropping Dier from midfield to play as centerback.

    Well, we'll see I guess. But Sanchez had not long been with the club (and is only 21 years old) and it was an away game ... a fair bit of water has passed under the bridge for Sanchez since then.
     
    In a midfield two, it's not just that Pogba has to be more disciplined, it's that he plays rightcenter with Matić on the leftcenter.
     
    Why are so many people seemingly willing to not play Lingard?? He is playing amazingly well at the moment, it makes zero sense to leave him out.

    The team should be:

    De Gea

    Valencia

    Smalling
    Jones

    Young

    Matic

    Pogba

    Lingard
    Martial

    Sanchez

    Lukaku

    Lets take it right to them, lets see how they cope with that forward line-up.

    Exactly, and Lingard is probably one of the most energetic pressers in the league when defending too.
    It's not like it's Rooney at his most sluggish playing there
     
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